The researchers had a hunch he was there. ATOS pass Richard III’s skeleton as fit to work.
Joking aside, the discovery of Richard III’s body is fascinating and wonderful. Aside from Shakespeare’s brilliant play (which is evidently not as physically inaccurate as we have been told for years), and the question of who killed the Princes in the Tower, there is a romance about lost dynasties which appeals to a deep human yearning for a golden age when things were somehow better, and for “lost futures”. What might have been, had those evil Stanleys not turned on Richard at Bosworth and put their miserable Welsh accountant on the throne?
Richard is described in today’s newspapers as the last English King. The Plantagenets were of course Angevin. The last English King – indeed the only English King of all England – was Harold Godwinson. Now there’s a lost dynasty for you.
We now know that Richard’s “Claim of Right” was almost certainly true and Edward IV a bastard, as his father was nowhere near his mother for months around the purported conception. But the so-called Royal line is, I am quite sure, sprinkled with bastards and no line at all. Not to mention that George I was 39th in line to the throne when given it 300 years ago, but the first Protestant.
Monarchy is bollocks, and something we should have outgrown a long time ago. Nice to see that today’s Prince Harry retains the tradition of remorseless homicide though.
Leicester University deserve congratulations on a genuine achievement. I hope Richard can now be reburied as soon as possible – as a Catholic, which is what he was. He was a human being. The degradation and display of his fresh corpse were horrible; but there is a danger of repeating it with a po face and feigned serious intent.
Yes Dave i’d like to add my thanks to Mary’s. Interesting website you have there, will get a closer look later..
I knew that the Americans had bases in S Korea but not the number of troops which is nearly 30,000.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Forces_Korea
They have just been engaging in military exercises with the S Korean forces thus heightening the tension. We are not told of this by the ‘mainstream media’ here.
Subject: North Korea “Test”: Aggravated by U.S. “War Games” and “Pivot”?
http://members5.boardhost.com/medialens/msg/1360693303.html
West Yorkshire and Aberystwyth?
Looks like poor Romania deserves an apology – from someone. Who dragged them into it? The French?
^^ horsemeat/abbatoirs
Medialens
“Forever Groundhog Day For Climate? A Tale Of Ice, Smokescreens And Rebellion”
http://www.medialens.org/index.php?option=com_acymailing&no_html=1&ctrl=url&urlid=1934&mailid=207&subid=9484
“One was the disgraced Mike Hulme who was at the heart of the Climategate scandal.”
The only ones disgraced by the Climategate scandal were the deniers who showed they had hacked a load of emails they were too stupid to understand.
Mary and other horse lovers,
I do not understand all this this nonsense about horse meat. It seems to me that people in GB and France are not yet impoverished enough as they can still snigger at horse meat, something, which at least in France, was not long ago considered to be a delicacy. Horse meat does not always come cheap. My friend sold a mare to an abattoir in Italy two years after he had paid for her at Buckholt Park almost seven grand.
Fred 12 Feb, 2013 – 6:53 pm:
sorry, link to above:
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100020515/climategate-the-corruption-of-wikipedia/
“The only ones disgraced by the Climategate scandal were the deniers who showed they had hacked a load of emails they were too stupid to understand”
Yes. In this one for instance they just don’t understand that the word “hide” is in fact a precise scientific term meaning “conclusively refute”. Idiots.
“I’ve just completed Mike’s Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie, from 1981 onwards) and from 1961 for Keith’s to hide the decline”
A Node,
Disgradced Mike Hulme? How do you work that one out?
If you have vidence that he is “disgraced” then perhaps you should update his Wikiepedia entry with the evidence of such – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Hulme
The fact you see him as disgraced indicates to me you don’t know what you are talking about. And no the hacked emails are not evidence of disgrace.
“Why did he do that, Fred?”
I haven’t a clue.
What’s obvious to me is that the Arctic sea ice is vanishing fast.
No doubt about it.
MJ
So you don’t understand either.
You could always read the reports of the several investigations into the matter and be enlightened.
Vronsky,
unless Betrand Russell made up the story, it seems to me that lady he allegedly met was somewhat confused about what she really was. A genuine solipsist would be surprised to hear that there are more solipsists running around.
And nobody was “hiding” a decline in temperature in 1999 (date of the email). Plot the ten year trailing global temperature average and there is no decline even today. It’s as simple as that. The “decline” referred to a problem with tree ring proxy temperatures in recent years. As we have far more reliable temperature masurement than tree rings thse days we don’t measure temperatures by cutting up trees. There’s a whole field of study into why the tree ring proxy breaks down in recent years. The cause is thought to be another man-made side effect – but I’m not tree expert.
Climate change works on decades long scales. Anything shorter is “weather” – including solar cycle effects.
guano
12 Feb, 2013 – 12:31 pm
Please explain what you mean by: “Doesn’t seem to make much difference if it’s a Shitrib or a Pistakani.”
“Climate change works on decades long scales. Anything shorter is “weather” – including solar cycle effects.”
We have highly trained scientists in all parts of the world using the most sophisticated equipment and agreeing that climate change is happening and man is the major cause.
But you still get people with GCSE woodwork pointing to one line taken out of context in an old email and claiming it proves them all wrong.
Unbelievable.
“You could always read the reports of the several investigations into the matter and be enlightened”
Is it really necessary for me to read several reports in order to understand the meaning of a single sentence when you could surely summarise them for me in a few words? What does he mean by “hide” in this e-mail?
Guano
Just noticed that shitrib is an anagram of British. Are you racist by any chance?
What does Pistakani stand for?
“Is it really necessary for me to read several reports in order to understand the meaning of a single sentence when you could surely summarise them for me in a few words? What does he mean by “hide” in this e-mail?”
If you can’t be bothered looking I certainly can’t.
The Arctic is still shrinking fast so it doesn’t make any difference.
Doug, thats even more obvious but lets understand from Guano wtf he’s going on about… Thanks for picking up on it.
MJ,
What was meant was that tree ring growth appears to indicate a decline in global temperature since about 1960. We know from actual temperature records that this is not the case (even virtually all climate skeptics accept that global temperatures increased from 1960 to 2000). More info at http://www.skepticalscience.com/Tree-ring-proxies-divergence-problem.htm
So when plotting a reconstructed set of temperatures by tree-ring proxy through the ages you will see that they indicate an apparent decline in global temps since 1960 if taken at face value – therefore actual measured temperatures were added to the end of the graph (to “hide” the known to be incorrect APPARENT decline). Global dimming and changes to rainfall patterns are thought to be involved here. It’s an openly researched area – not one that is hidden.
“If you can’t be bothered looking I certainly can’t”
I thought you’d read them. I take you don’t know then. Fair dos.
News from the Antarctic was more encouraging, will be interesting to see how they do this winter/summer.
Its a big world with a lot of assholes and emails and scandals in it, so you can pick and choose your lot – wikipedias endless shenanigans, bbc edits, a phrase in a researchers email, whatever gels with you…
You can have nothing to do with the thousands of peer reviewed research papers concerned with anthropogenic climate change, the hundreds studying it specifically in considerable depth and scrutiny, and you can have nothing to do with the fact that almost no research or theory of publishable quality exists to oppose the tested and documented scientific consensus that the situation is very serious.
You can imagine fanciful science produced and published and reviewed beyond reasonable doubt by millions of dedicated empiricists, and all fudged and faked just to make a market out of renewables and to fund hippy research projects.
That wouldnt make you necessarily a fool, but in the full circumstances, which include everything you ignore and refute in ignorance, you have less than one in a million chance of being right.
Unless the majority of scientists and intelligent people who are concerned about conventional research and findings on AGW — unless they/we are in for a very lucky suprise, we have a lot of changes to make, and possibly very quickly, and still possibly too late.
Where does the faith that our environment does not need this care come from? That of all the things to worry about the composition and temperature of the atmosphere is not one, despite the urgent message that it is – which relatively nothing has been done about yet.
It comes from unconcerned super rich industrialists (to be sure why wouldnt it?), and also mavericks and amatures. There will always be mavericks, and good on them, but although mavericks can be a source of inspiration, most of them turn out to be just mavericks. Dedicated amatures can sometimes be effective, but most amatures are just musing on subjects without the commitment and attention required to publish and be appreciated by their peers.
The faithful, ‘do as thou wilt into the atmosphere’ lot are made of maverics, amatures, unintrested, faith in god, faith in green corruption, faith in an imperturably vaste world.
Stop stubbornly clinging to the slimmest little possibility, one that is dependent on a great historic green conspiracy, that can only be digested by us while sick of the general state of everything anyway, –>that burning everything flamable found on and under the earth can not be as dangerous as almost all researchers on the situation have confirmed.
“I thought you’d read them. I take you don’t know then. Fair dos.”
You can take that as a doesn’t matter. Out of all the masses of data concerning climate change I’d rate that as about the least important.
MJ
Here’s a good summary of the factors involved in the Antarctic – http://www.skepticalscience.com/antarctica-gaining-ice.htm
NB There is quite a decent chance we may be about to enter a Solar Grand Minimum. These can be short lived (just a cycle or two) or last for many decades (“Maunder Minimum”). It is thought that the decrease in extreme UV light hitting the atmosphere results in a climate response. Off the top of my head I think the maximum global effect is currently estimated to be about -0.3C but that wider swings can be seen elsewhere – some parts even up to 2C colder on average (Europe for example), some hotter. There is much work to be done in this area still.
If we do enter a new Grand Minimum then we can get to see even more climate chaos in future due to the CO2 forcing one way and the extreme UV forcing the other way. Even if the Sun stayed in Grand Minmum mode forever the CO2 forcing will easily win in the end. However it might be seriously hard to interest people in global warming if they are skating on the Thames in 2020. On the plus side (if there is one) maybe we get to see it happening in real time for better calibration of future predictions. On the negative side temperatures will rocket way beyond anything seen so far at the exit from a prolonged Minimum.
Recent NASA news item about the possible impending “Grand Minimum” and potential climate effects/
http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2013/08jan_sunclimate/
Again none of this discredits or negates global warming.
A Node spake: “One was the disgraced Mike Hulme who was at the heart of the Climategate scandal.
Which scandal is that, A Node? The one that has been thoroughly investigated multiple times, by Royal commissions and independent university bodies, every one of which found there was no scandal actually there?
It’s rather like the “Al Gore claimed he invented the Internet!” lie. Just keep repeating the original accusation, neglect to check the actual facts and neglect ALL the subsequent debunking, and presto! You’re left with the original smear which was the entire point of the exercise.
A Node – I’ve got respect for you, but you’ve been thoroughly chumped if you’re buying into this crock.
guano
10 Feb, 2013 – 12:08 pm
“ All in the best possible taste, Mary. Please feel free to cross over your legs Kenny Everett style. Our human tendency to ride our fanytasies is one of the reasons we have arranged marriages in Islam.”
Fanytasies? Please explain.
“…is one of the reasons we have arranged marriages in Islam.”
What are the other reasons?
guano
11 Feb, 2013 – 8:27 am
“…it is lawful to fight with Alawis who take arms against you on the grounds of their kufr/disbelief.”
So you believe that the use of violence is lawful against people who don’t believe in god?
The Qur’an uses the word kufr to denote a person who covers up or hides realities, one who refuses to accept the dominion and authority of Allah (peace be upon her).
Do you not accept the right of people to disbelieve?
Do you disagree with the right to free speech?
guano
11 Feb, 2013 – 12:24 pm
“…my name is Anas, and my mum calls me Willie and I deliver Guano…”
Guano you are a fraud.
Karel
12 Feb, 2013 – 7:27 pm
“Mary and other horse lovers,
“ I do not understand all this this nonsense about horse meat.”
Karel,
The important point about horsemeat (and pork) in beef-burgers and other meat products is that if you or I buy a meat product you expect (i.e. trust) that if the packet says beef then it should not contain pork or horse or dog or cat or insect.