Now is the Winter of our Disinterment 699

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The researchers had a hunch he was there. ATOS pass Richard III’s skeleton as fit to work.

Joking aside, the discovery of Richard III’s body is fascinating and wonderful. Aside from Shakespeare’s brilliant play (which is evidently not as physically inaccurate as we have been told for years), and the question of who killed the Princes in the Tower, there is a romance about lost dynasties which appeals to a deep human yearning for a golden age when things were somehow better, and for “lost futures”. What might have been, had those evil Stanleys not turned on Richard at Bosworth and put their miserable Welsh accountant on the throne?

Richard is described in today’s newspapers as the last English King. The Plantagenets were of course Angevin. The last English King – indeed the only English King of all England – was Harold Godwinson. Now there’s a lost dynasty for you.

We now know that Richard’s “Claim of Right” was almost certainly true and Edward IV a bastard, as his father was nowhere near his mother for months around the purported conception. But the so-called Royal line is, I am quite sure, sprinkled with bastards and no line at all. Not to mention that George I was 39th in line to the throne when given it 300 years ago, but the first Protestant.

Monarchy is bollocks, and something we should have outgrown a long time ago. Nice to see that today’s Prince Harry retains the tradition of remorseless homicide though.

Leicester University deserve congratulations on a genuine achievement. I hope Richard can now be reburied as soon as possible – as a Catholic, which is what he was. He was a human being. The degradation and display of his fresh corpse were horrible; but there is a danger of repeating it with a po face and feigned serious intent.

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  • Villager

    Habitual Babbler,

    Still waiting for an answer to my post above:

    “Coucou, for awhile you had me believing you were reforming but, you are confirming that most men, except those with supple minds are incapable of changing. As a professedly good Catholic we know what your views on the subject are. Lets just expose you as a vacant, pathological, compulsive obsessive impostor.”

  • nevermind

    These Norfolk MP’s voted against the majority of those party politicians.

    Richard Bacon, South Norfolk MP

    Therese Coffey, Suffolk Coastal MP

    Peter Aldous, Waveney MP

    Henry Bellingham, North West Norfolk

    George Freeman, Mid Norfolk MP

    That said, marriage is inconvenient to those partners who do not work and are older.
    Whilst a single person, not in pensionable age yet, but over 60, will be eligible for pension credits, winter fuel allowance, help with their electricity bills and free bus travel, those who are married of the same age and with a spouse still working will get nothing whatsoever.

    I have yet to find out the benefits of the bill, bar the hot air that is heating the lower parts of the House, the gallery, were interested members of the public are directed to, is much colder.

  • doug scorgie

    Israel wants EU terror tag for Hezbollah

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21342199

    US/Israel shenanigans ?

    New York Times:

    “With help from the United States and Israel, investigators here broke the case — and linked it to Hezbollah — using a tip from a secret source and some old-fashioned detective work, tracing the printer that had produced two forged licenses back to Lebanon.

    “On Tuesday, Bulgaria’s interior minister, Tsvetan Tsvetanov, announced that two of the people behind the July 18 bombing, which killed five Israeli tourists, a Bulgarian bus driver and the bomber, were believed to be members of the military wing of Hezbollah.

    “We have followed their entire activities in Australia and Canada, so we have information about financing and their membership in Hezbollah,” Mr. Tsvetanov said at a news conference.

    “Hezbollah has denied responsibility for the bombing. “

    Netanyahu says:

    “This is yet a further corroboration of what we have already known, that Hezbollah and its Iranian patrons are orchestrating a worldwide campaign of terror that is spanning countries and continents.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/06/world/europe/bulgaria-implicates-hezbollah-in-deadly-israeli-bus-blast.html?_r=0

    From recent events regarding Syria and Lebanon and the fact everyone knows Israel wants another Lebanon war, after their defeat at the hands of Hezbollah in 2006. It seems likely that the timing of the results of the Bulgarian investigation (carried out by Israel and the US) and the demand by Netanyahu for the world to declare Hezbollah a “terrorist entity” are linked and help manufacture a case for an upcoming attack on Lebanon.

  • John Goss

    Mary at 10.22 am. Thanks for your kind comment and the link to David Halpin’s condemnation of Tony Blair for what he did to Ali Abbas and so many other children. How does Blair sleep at night?

  • Macky

    “In case anyone is interested in last night’s vote, which like microchips for dogs, is a great diversion for Agent Cameron and his cohort to take our attention off his major crimes in Mali and Syria, let alone the paedophilia enquiries which are going nowhere and the continuing crimes of the bankers who dress up as armed highwaymen.”

    Exactly Habbabkuk’s not so subtle agenda.

    @John Goss, I also add my thanks & appreciation for your moving poem.

  • A Node

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    Is there too much clutter and and annoying distraction in your browser? Do you struggle to catch up on your favourite blog?
    Simple! Just skip any thread by or addressed to Habbabkuk.
    Instantly your blog time becomes informative and productive again, just like it used to be.
    Don’t delay, do it NOW! You know it makes sense.

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  • Mark Golding - Children of Conflict

    בתחבולות תעשה לך מלחמה – my guidance is towards Syria; she cannot capitulate to the terrorists; doing so would render another 100yrs dark age of elitist imperium. I have revealed at some risk a devious game plan to blitz Syria in the preceding thread as a precursor to Iran’s holocaust by Zionism delusion – באין תחבולות יפול עם, ותשועה ברוב יועץ.

  • nevermind

    30 people killed by the Malian army who seem to follow their French Guardians around and are killing those who they think have supported the Tuareg’s or so called ‘Islamist’s’. Mali’s population is 90% Muslim and this is why the West is fighting there, to discourage anyone joining in or starting to ask awkward questions as to Gold Gas Oil and Uranium resources leaving the country for not very much in return.

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/the-lawless-sahel-offers-a-vast-sanctuary-to-islamist-extremists-a-880056.html

  • Keith Crosby

    Actually, England has been a republic since 1688 and Britain has been since 1707. If you look at the Coronation Oath Act 1688 it’s clearly an employment contract isued by Parliament. Notice also that as well as appointing who they pleased after “Queen” Anne dies, they sacked Eddie the fascist in the 1930’s. That doesn’t happen to monarchs, only employees.

  • doug scorgie

    A Node
    6 Feb, 2013 – 1:34 pm

    “Just skip any thread by or addressed to Habbabkuk.
    Instantly your blog time becomes informative and productive again, just like it used to be.”

    Habbabkuk is an annoying flea but he does provide entertainment. He reacts to other poster’s comments rather than put forward any valid arguments of his own.
    He is in my view simple minded.

    An example of his modus operandi is the hounding of other posters here for not congratulating Cameron for the same sex marriage bill.

    He could have posted:

    I think Mr Cameron should be congratulated for aiding the successful passage of the bill. Had he done that he may have got reasonable responses to that view.

    Anyway I don’t mind toying with the little shit – just for fun.

  • Mary

    We hear of issues and solutions. Tesco have a labelling issue with their Spag Bol. Findus have an issue with their frozen lasagne.

    Solution – take it off the shelves. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21354311 What is happening to all this wasted food one wonders.

    Horsey. Horsey…http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nG8-6yfE6T8
    Comment below Horsey Horsey Don’t You Stop, Or you’ll be in a tesco shop, your tail goes swish and your wheels go round, OMG your a quarter pound

    PS Would anyone buy a food produced by a company named Comigel?

  • this

    OK, witty title, but there’s nothing like a story like this to distract people. In China, people worship their ancestors. In Britain, they worship the ancestors of the royal family.

    The Elm Street paedophile abuse scandal is about to go BLAM!

    Even the, er, criminal-friendly figure Giovanni di Stefano is getting in on the act of saying there’s a big cover-up. What on earth’s that all about?

    Meanwhile in Belgium, a court will issue its decision on Marc Dutroux’s application for release later this month.

    I hope Mary Moss looks out for her personal safety.

  • karel

    to the moderator, whoever it might be
    it is my, possibly insignificant, impression that hababba reigns supreme here like a demented monarch. Can we entirely exclude the possibility that hababa may somewhat overstretch his “intelectual firepower” or whatever he calls it and become a total wreck ready to be admitted to a mental asylum. Would it not be an act of humanity to habbabA and others to limit him to five contributions per one post? This would offer hhahababa a well deserved rest and give him more time to learn Italian.

  • A Node

    @ Karel

    There is a much simpler solution to the problem than burdening the moderator with more work.
    Don’t respond to him.

  • karel

    to A Node,
    Dont you believe in humane acts? I suppose that we just have to be meek and pray that habbabas od this world will not multiply on this blog. Could we bear ten of them?

  • doug scorgie

    nevermind
    6 Feb, 2013 – 2:28 pm

    “interview with Faisal Al Mekdad, or how to survive a totally one-sided interview.”

    Yes totally one-sided – even worse than the BBC!!!

  • Ben Franklin -Machine Gun Preacher (unleaded version)

    “Oil. Religion. Occupation. … A Combustible Mix.”

    Balsam from Gilead as an oil, would tamp down the flames.

  • Ben Franklin -Machine Gun Preacher (unleaded version)

    “There is a much simpler solution to the problem than burdening the moderator with more work.
    Don’t respond to him.”

    You are right, of course. But the talent for compelling an answer with a cudgel makes moderation a necessity.

  • Mary

    That was BG Mark, British Gas.

    ‘Among the activities highlighted by Channel Four is Mr Blair’s advocacy for the Qatari-owned telecoms company Wataniya, which was granted bandwidth rights in the West Bank. JP Morgan helped negotiate a £2bn loan for the purchase of the company in 2007. It also detailed the former Labour leader’s lobbying to develop a $6bn oil field off Gaza for which British Gas Group own operating rights. British Gas is also a major client of the US investment bank.’

    Tony Blair is unaccountable over business interests, adviser says
    Jonathan Brown
    Monday 26 September 2011
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tony-blair-is-unaccountable-over-business-interests-adviser-says-2360896.html

    ~~
    Ref BP British Petroleum. I would imagine Blair and Sir Peter Sutherland are well known to each other. They all meet at that Davos thing and Bilderberg too for all I know. Sutherland was chairman of BP until 2009.

    All powerful all seeing all controlling http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Sutherland
    I see him sitting astride the globe as a monstrous behemoth, metaphorically speaking.

    Cameron appointed John Browne who was the CEO of BP as one of those business czars. Browne was described by Blair as his favourite businessman! Browne resigned after admitting he had lied and had committed perjury. Lord Justice Eady (we have heard of him) decided to recommend to the Attorney General that he should not be charged.
    Browne recommended that the cap on university tuition fees should be lifted. Nice type.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Browne,_Baron_Browne_of_Madingley

  • Habbabkuk

    @ Doug Scorgie (10h08) on the gay mparriage bill:

    No, Doug, it’s the Coalition government, acting under the leadership of the Prime Minister, which is to be congratulated for this bill, with the Labour Party coming a very distant second (or even third).

    This is Doug : “During the leadership election of the Labour Party, all candidates said they were in favour of same-sex marriage”

    WOW, Dougie, that’s really impressive. But would they have had the cojones to introduce draft legislation? Memories of university tuition fees, eh (“we won’t”..and then they promptly did)?

    No, it’s hats off to the Coalition government and Mr Cameron in particular!

  • nevermind

    A minority coalition that not even consulted its members on the bill never mind the electorate, and why should they, that’s British politics, a leading class of useless lawyers and establishment lackeys who lord it over the rest of us.

    This issue is guff, diverting from other more important issues and what little support they’d had from Labour for it made it successful.

    Why, if it was so important a bill, more hot air raised about it than the budget, did Cameron fail to attend the debate?

    Been at a coffee fund raiser? buying budgie smugglers?

  • David

    Just another ordinary, everyday, rape allegation and absolutely northing to do with anything else. Honest guv.

    “The Prime Minister, Julia Gillard, has never retracted her public (mis)statement that Assange had committed ”an illegal act”. The Swedish Prime Minister, Frederik Reinfeldt, has never retracted his public mis-statement that Assange had been charged with rape. Why not?

    Assange points out that Sweden’s is a culture of profound conformism; a population half the size of Australia’s with a language spoken (and a culture therefore scrutinised) by no one else on earth. A country that, unlike say Germany, ”never denazified” after World War II. Never pushed the reset button.

    So when the Social Minister, Goran Hagglund, publicly describes Assange as ”sick … a coward … a lowlife … a pitiful wretch”, and the Ministry for Foreign Affairs tweets ”you do not dictate the terms if you are a suspect. Get it?”, the press follow suit.

    Sweden’s largest-circulation daily, Dagens Nyheter, calls Assange ”paranoid” and a ”querulant”.

    A prominent journalist for the Swedish tabloid Aftonbladet, Martin Aagard, calls him an ”Australian pig”, linking Assange with Rupert Murdoch. ”There are many good reasons to criticise Assange. One … is that he’s a repugnant swine.”

    Is this the temperate response of a modern democracy to untested allegations of sex-without-a-condom? Can we seriously trust that the two cases are discrete?

    The Foreign Affairs Minister, Bob Carr, for years a grand jury denier, admitted recently that ”it appears … a grand jury has been established” in Richmond, Virginia, to try Assange in secret.

    What sort of government would not strenuously resist this for a citizen innocent under Australian law?

    As to the third conception, of Assange-as-wanker, I say only this. I expected to find him self-absorbed, humourless and rather vain. Instead he was warm, engaging, unpretentious, intelligent and frank. It’s not relevant, but I liked him.”

    http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/held-in-a-gilded-cage-optimism-still-reigns-supreme-for-assange-20130206-2dykj.html

  • MJ

    “Why, if it was so important a bill, more hot air raised about it than the budget, did Cameron fail to attend the debate?”

    Because, as you say, the issue is guff. He has no interest in the matter. Who does? All civil liberty issues were fully addressed almost a decade ago with the Civil Partnerships Act.

    What’s interesting is why both Cameron and Obama are pursuing the matter so vigorously and in tandem. In Cameron’s case he has been prepared to see this non-issue cause huge ructions in his own party.

    My reading of it is that both Cameron and Obama have been put under some pressure to push through same-sex marriage legislation. Not from the general public of course but from above. The question is therefore: why are the banksters so keen on same-sex marriage?

  • Mary

    I expect you know of the young journalist Owen Jones who comes on QT and other programmes when a ‘left’ view is required. This event is more than ‘obscene’ which is how the Medialens editors describe this ‘debate’ advertised in the tweet.

    The ten of them, listed below, should just shut their mouths and respect the Iraqi dead, wounded and displaced. Hasan has some job at Huffington Post I believe and obviously came up with it.

    ~~~
    Owen Jones tweets: ‘Great Iraq Debate: was it worth it?’

    Posted by The Editors on February 6, 2013, 6:03 pm

    ‘Come to tomorrow’s Great Iraq Debate: was it worth it ten years on?’
    https://twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/299188349783130112

    The obscenity of that question would become very clear if Jones asked it of many other great crimes in history: 9/11 – was it worth it? The Nazi invasion of USSR, 1941 – was it worth it? Obscene questions.
    ~~~
    Was It Worth It? Iraq, Ten Years On
    The Huffington Post UK with Goldsmiths, University of London presents ‘The Great Iraq War Debate: Was It Worth It? Iraq, Ten Years On’

    Ten years on since the invasion of Iraq, the question still remains as to whether or not the war was worth it. The Huffington Post UK and Goldsmiths, University of London invite you to a debate to mark the anniversary of the biggest demonstration in British history against the Iraq War.

    Former cabinet minister Clare Short, Iraqi novelist and activist Haifa Zangana, Independent columnist Owen Jones and HuffPost UK’s Mehdi Hasan will be going up against former shadow defence secretary Bernard Jenkin MP, Times columnist David Aaronovitch, founder of Iraqi Prospect Organisation Dr Ali Latif and Shiraz Maher to argue over whether or not the invasion of Iraq was “worth it”.

    The debate will be introduced by Dr Des Freedman from the Department of Media and Communications at Goldsmiths, and will be chaired by HuffPost UK’s Editor-in-Chief, Carla Buzasi.

    The event is free to attend, reserve your place here: http://www.amiando.com/iraqdebate

    Arrive at 6:30pm for a 7pm start. Event will be finished by 09:00pm.

    Please print off your confirmation email and bring it to the event for registration.
    ~~~~

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