A “Lib Dem” minister just told Sky News he was approving new nuclear power stations to promote green jobs. If anybody ever votes for these lying bastards again I shall be disconsolate.
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“Dreoilin; Are you reading me right?”
Sorry Ben, no, I read you wrong. My fault for being in a hurry. 🙁
Our last Government (the ones who turned bank debt into sovereign debt) allowed GM foodstuff into Ireland for our livestock. One of their last acts before being thrown out. I was fit to be tied!
Got to fly, sorry
Mary
27 Mar, 2013 – 12:12 am
“This. Secret courts. Snooping on electronic communications…..little by little and step by step.”
Yes Mary I agree. It will soon be goosestep by goosestep though.
I dont know of many people who spend more of their precious time and attention researching and publicising the plight and harrowing circumstances of people in crisis – than Mary has done on these comments for years.
Anyone is susceptible to being jaded by difficult research, i think its possible that Marys view of certain operations could be argued with and assuaged.
On the other side of the equation, partial actions and motivations by ostensibly good and impressive organisations are common due to human error, impartiality, and all too present deceptions.
Its typically easy work for CE to indignantly cut and paste advertisements. CE doesnt bother themselves with truth, but rather prefers hammering away with conveniently limited descriptions, as most have noticed already.
é Mary at 16h00 :
“I have been out on a lovely sunny day to see that all the trolls have piled in, desperate to defend the IRC but failing…..”
There you are, I just knew that Saint Mary would condemn herself out of her own mouth sooner or later, and the above comment of hers is it.
It is now clear that Mary considers anyone who disagrees with her about anything to be a troll.
Isn’t that rather Stalinist?
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And by the way, thank you to whoever ( a moderator?) deleted a post of mibe from this morning stating that I was not Habbabkuk Version 2. Very democratic.
Habbabkuk Ver2.0 (La Chosen Hubris È Fankulo)
27 Mar, 2013 – 7:14 am
It is Benjamin Netanyahu’s birthday today, for all those who want to send him good wishes.
http://socioecohistory.wordpress.com/2012/11/14/rivals-fear-israels-binyamin-netanyahu-is-plotting-nuclear-strike-on-iran/
The story you mention was actually published in the Sunday Times. So it may not be too far-fetched.
“ISRAEL’S military planners have been forced to conclude that a conventional assault on Iran’s nuclear facilities might fail after evidence emerged that Tehran has hidden far more of its uranium enrichment capacity beneath a mountain than previously suspected.”
“[Western defence experts say] this narrows Israel’s response to two options: the deployment of special forces in a ground attack, or the use of ballistic missiles carrying small tactical nuclear warheads.”
http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/world_news/Middle_East/article1161858.ece
On second thoughts, on her record Mary is probably quite nostalgic about Stalin (“stood up to the USA and the West, etc, etc”). I really shouldn’t be paying her compliments, should I 🙂
@ Crab :
“Its(sic)typically easy work for CE to indignantly cut and paste advertisements. CE doesnt bother themselves (sic)with truth, but rather prefers hammering away with conveniently limited descriptions, as most have noticed already.”
Well, count me out of those who have noticed that.
What I have noticed, though, is that CE doesn’t share the intellectual dishonesty which characterises so many of you, that he makes the effort to assemble facts to explode the simplistic arguments you lot specialise in and that he won’t be bullied into giving in and joining the compulsory group-think of the Eminences.
No wonder he gets under your skin so much; it’s not pleasant to be shown up so repeatedly.
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La vita è bella, life is good!
Habbabkuk (La vita è bella)
27 Mar, 2013 – 7:01 pm
“I have been out on a lovely sunny day to see that all the trolls have piled in, desperate to defend the IRC but failing…..”
“It is now clear that Mary considers anyone who disagrees with her about anything to be a troll.”
Habbabkuk, this is an example of a non sequitur, a term you have difficulty understanding (posts passim).
I know nothing about the International Rescue Committee apart from comments posted on this thread, but with Madeleine Albright, Henry Kissinger and Colin Powell among the IRC overseers, I think that suspicion is justified. So I’ve been having a quick look for criticism of the IRC, and so far I have found the following article, which seems to have been “sanitised” from the IRC Wikipedia page. At first glance it appears to be extensively referenced and well researched:
http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/over-five-million-dead-in-congo-fifteen-hundred-people-daily/
This debate about the IRC reminds me of another debate on a recent thread about Reporters Without Borders. I suspect that the truth is represented by neither extreme. Such organisations must attract many well-motivated people, and I would expect that most of the ordinary members are people of good conscience who believe themselves to be working for improvement in our world.
However, given the expansion in covert operations, “PsyOps”, and news management since 2001, it seems inconceivable that organisations such as the IRC and RWB would not have been infiltrated and manipulated, and the presence of Albright, Kissinger and Powell suggests that this is likely. It is entirely possible that such organisations do genuinely good work, but that their reports are nonetheless massaged for propaganda purposes.
I’m still waiting to hear from Mary as to what words her picture of Michelle Obama lighting a Passover candle paint (a few sententences rather than a thousand will suffice). Being a troll I’m not very good at hearing dog whistles.
This is not the first time Mary has used references to Jewish religous observance to support her political views – could she please expalin why she feels this is necessary?
Non-sequitur or not, my comment about Mary hits the nail on the head, as all non-Eminences will readily agree.
If Mary can admit to s-trolling out for a walk, why can’t Bog-heave-muck admit he only comes here for a s-talk?
Poor defenceless rogue state in lieu with the US aggressors is contemplating the use of nuclear weapons.
Any such attack would bring the world to the brink of world war 3.
Maybe that is what Netanyahu wanted for his birthday, a Churchillian demonstration of nuclear annihilation and genocide against a people who are peaceful.
Persia has not attacked anybody for 250 years, and Israels current batch of viral Zionists, have become a fascist warmonger.
Happy Armageddon to you too Bibi.
Clark
Rather than looking for criticism of the IRC in order to support your prejudice – why don’t you just research the actions of the IRC as a whole. How many overseers does the IRC have might just be a good starting question? And then you might look at the range of its activities to see whether there are any discernible trends before leaping to your conclusions as to what is inevitable. The next thing you will be doing is attacking the Red Cross, whose International Committee members all have to be Swiss because Craig recently declared that country to be fascist.
Any organisation, especially one as large as the IRC will have people connected with it in some form whose views are unacceptable to someone. Any organisations that deals with refugees on a humanitarian basis will almost certainly be seen as acting against the interests of those who created the refugees – that said if you look at the IRC’s recent report on Syrian refugees you will see that it is pretty scrupulous in not blaming one side or the other as causing the problem so as to maintain its neutrality (you and I have no such problem)
This morning i posted:
“Villager
27 Mar, 2013 – 1:51 pm
Are the IRC the self-same suspects who go around the world lighting fires, and then wanting to come pick up some of the pieces?”
I found my answer this evening on the channel 4 news when David Milliband recommended that Cameron needed to do something ‘big’ in Syria. So yes this man has no regrets about Iraq whatsoever and would like the US/UK alliance to set fire to Syria so that he can go about his new job helping pick up the pieces.
Never mind what the Syrian people want in this situation; bloody hypocritical ‘democrats’.
Frakking, GMOs, and now chem-trails. Hidden from view because we are used to seeing CON-trails from Jets overhead.
Stop this foolishness from those who are are fixing it with a disease worse than the illness. Or, is it too late already?
http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/
Nice poetry there Guano. Yes, The Troika here can provide good material. Wanna do a rhyme-y one for ResDiss?
DesRes
You put your foot right in it this time – right up to the eyeballs! To all UK Christians Passover is a Christian ceremony, so presumably you are not. You are the one who is converting general remarks into racist interpretations which were not intended and most people didn’t read in the way you read them.
In the context of the Islamic Middle East the burning of candles is seen as a disgusting piece of neo-con hypocrisy: first they demolish our Muslim societies and then they offer pathetic, artificial religious symbols of polytheistic peace. The candle graffiti propaganda basically states that the neo-cons own the lands that they have crusaded against and taken over by false democracy.
However I’m sure in this instance Mrs Obama was not making a Jewish statement, an Amnesty statement, a Christian crusader statement, or any kind of political statement at all but a simple statement of her sincere Christian belief. I respect both your and her religious belief. There is no point seeing a political agenda where none is present – don’t you think?
As far as i can tell the “Non-Eminences” to which the astro-troll-extraordinare Habbabkuk appeals, number about 3 on this blog, and they might as well be astro-logicals too 😀
“It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.”
Jiddu Krishnamurti
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I propose our problem with this rather weak force of The Troika here is that they are superbly adjusted to this sick establishment. Leave them alone — don’t expect any creativity here.
About Clarks comment:
http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2013/03/nuclear-nightmare/comment-page-4/#comment-400941
ResDiss writes: “– why don’t you just research the actions of the IRC as a whole”
“Just” doesnt make sense there. The IRC is large, so you’re just setting an unrealistic standard. Credit where credit is due and Criticism where criticism is due.
Guano,
Given your numerous previous racist statements on ‘the Jews’,(if I remember correctly Craig told you to F-off the last time you tried it on), I think you should let Mary answer for herself what the mysterious ‘thousand words’ are?
“Geoengineering, like climate change itself, is a global issue that affects us all, and therefore governance of research, and international co-operation, will be crucial. The UN Convention on Biological Diversity has decided that small-scale and low-risk field trials are acceptable (and the proposed Spice experiment is certainly one of these), but it did not define the boundaries of what is considered “small scale”. Indeed there are, at present, no adequate international agreements to restrict or control many possible geoengineering activities, especially those in the atmosphere, and little experience of applying international legislation to this area.”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/sep/14/geoengineering-more-evidence
Here’s the problem. We do not understand enough about climate to go engineering it. What we do understand is that change is coming, and we have the means, but not the will, to correct that. Covering it up with a nice lace doo-dad doesn’t do it. Putting lipstick on a pig doesn’t change it’s character. We may have outlived our usefulness, now that the Earth has plastic.
Resident dissident, I did mean to state that the Wikipedia article about the IRC is overwhelmingly positive, and that therefore I deliberately went to look for criticism in the interest of balance, but I forgot whilst composing my comment. Interestingly, the Wikipedia article seems to have been created and updated almost entirely by contributors who are entirely uncritical of the IRC, and more objective editors have had to remove sections because they were “written like an advertisement”.
Please speak only for yourself, resident dissident. I do not know how much responsibility for the suffering in Syria should rightly be allocated to the Syrian government. I have seen plenty of evidence that “Western” allies Saudi Arabia and Qatar, and NATO member Turkey are acting against the Syrian government, and I try to understand the situation by imagining how the British government would respond if foreign countries were acting against the British forces in Britain. If several thousand reasonably well-equipped guerilla fighters were using British housing estates as a base from which to fight, it seems conceivable that the government would order air-strikes and missile attacks against them, and that British civilians would be killed and injured in the process. The British government would then be open to the charge of “killing their own people”, similar to the way that the Syrian government is currently being criticised.
The IRC, the International red cross, has a lot to answer for their reticence to open their 2 world war archive in Geneva. As for this neo con IRC fronting false flaggers and rogue’s like Kissinger and Albright, they have a great new addition in Daviod Milliband, a fellow torturer joining their ranks. Good riddance.
Whatever the organisation has achieved, they are a neo colonial tool, interfering in countries and imposing their social constructs around the world.
Dreolin has also successfully highlighted Mary’s somewhat disingenuous approach, that will be her, me, ResDis, Michi O, and the IRC all eagerly awaiting an apology.
I shan’t hold my breath.
The CE
I am not racist against Jews which is why I didn’t F off when Craig told me to do so. It suits him to ignore the religious content of my comments because he is not running a blog for religious comments. I have no idea if he is a religiously minded person either. The same goes for your own good self. If Craig had told me to Foff because he didn’t want religion brought up in his blog I would have readily gone, immediately. But instead he falsely accused me of racism by ignoring what I was actually saying. Like you.
What is it with the apologies nonsense? Just move on, FCS.
I should say that today has been a pretty bad day for the real trolls on this blog.
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La vita è bella, life is good! (real trolls are reeling)
Resident dissident, down is easier than up, and destruction is easier than construction – it’s just thermodynamics; entropy tends to increase…