In the week they took hundreds of pounds from people in severe poverty, MPs and Lords claim up to £3,750 each to return from their luxury holidays to spout off in honour of Margaret Thatcher. Meantime the media are busy classifying any potential protest or expression of opinion at the taxpayer funded funeral jamboree as “potential terrorism”.
Whether protest at the funeral is tasteful or not is a fair question. But there is no question it is perfectly lawful. There is virtually no understanding of the very notion of civil liberty in the mainstream media.
Freedom of speech, regardless of what our elite rulers say, does not exist in the UK.
“A serving police officer who posted offensive messages online following Baroness Thatcher’s death has resigned.”
“Sergeant Jeremy Scott, who worked in a back-office role for the Metropolitan Police, is understood to have written on social networking website Twitter that he hoped Lady Thatcher’s death was “painful and degrading”
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“Scotland Yard confirmed Sgt Scott had submitted his resignation and it was accepted with immediate effect.”
“Commander Allan Gibson added: “This officer’s behaviour was completely unacceptable and it is right that he has resigned.”
I understand that he has been “allowed” to keep his pension.
Knowing what I do about the police service and its management I would suggest that Sergeant Scott was given the “choice” of: resign and keep your pension or be sacked and lose it.
Mrs Thatcher’s death is, interestingly, exposing the reality of the British elite’s power over all our lives; even the Queen has been ordered to attend Thatcher’s funeral.
The UK is a cryptocracy not a democracy.
“Friends of Dorothy are hard to find at the BBC” – BBC2 Newsnight a few seconds ago. Hahahaha.
The dumb Tories trying to get the punk song “I’m in love with Margaret Thatcher” into charts don’t seem to have noticed that was a bizarre sex fantasy punk protest song against Thatcher.
Jemand
Trolls sit under bridges and expose themselves to passers-by. It is their job to ‘expose’ those of us who wear clothes, or rather think for themselves, which they think is weird and unnatural and makes them confused.
Mary – I believe you are well-intentioned, but I wish you could be a tiny bit more discriminating in your onslaughts (I could put this more strongly, but won’t)
Nigel Lawson, who is Jewish, referring to himself, Keith Joseph, Michael Howard, Malcolm Rifkind and Leon Brittan, this week in the Guardian wondered if Thatcher maybe had “a thing for Jews” as there were so many of them in her Cabinet. Probably: she represented Finchley, which has a large Jewish population, and she seemed to go down well there too.
YET, and I think this is to her credit, she did NOT endorse settlement building and told Begin that he should not have for himself (or Israel) what he denied to others, namely a national identity and state.
And, as I mentioned earlier, she loathed Begin for being obtuse and intransigent on this issue. She would undoubtedly have had qualms about Netanyahu too, and for the same reason.
Netanyahu’s invitation simply demonstrates that this is a political event, and not even primarily a tribute. Even by Cameron, or perhaps especially not by Cameron. I’ve noticed that the UK MSM has been remarkably coy about mentioning this particular guest.
Resident dissident
12 Apr, 2013 – 10:27 pm
“You and Mary…”
Resident dissident
12 Apr, 2013 – 10:40 pm
“If Mary or anyone…”
“If she had a shred of decency she would apologise for the untermensch reference she applied to Cameron and Clegg…”
You seem to obsessed with Mary and her opinions. Why?
I don’t know which post Mary alluded to “untermensch” but it is a German word that is defined as someone of lower morals. Cameron and Clegg can definitely be described as such.
Twitter censoring “dingdong” from Top Trends
Don’t believe it? Set trends to UK then search for “dingdong”. Roughly count new posts per minute. Then check Twitter’s official UK Trends, click on them and count updates per minute. Set tweets to “All” for both searches.
Why are people such tossers nowadays?
‘Anon’ claims to have exactly the information I asked for, but ‘can’t be bothered’ to tell me it. It is evidently not too much bother for Anon however to go to the trouble of telling me that he or she can’t be bothered to tell me.
Go figure, as they say in the land of the free and the home of the brave.
Since Anon implied that such sites do actually exist I put “chart eligible digital download sites with ethical policies” into a search engine owned by a company that pays its taxes (ie not Google), but nothing helpful came up.
Do such sites really exist? If so please could somebody point me in the direction of one?
This is not just about the 65p, obviously!
Thank you
Graham
Although to be fair it is possible Twitter just doesn’t like “dong” trending. Either way “ding dong” tweets are being filtered from trends.
“Throughout today, gold has been tumbling down a steep hill. As I write – after a brief rally when the NYSE came on stream – it has fallen $54 to $1506.
On the UK markets, the yellow peril has slipped back into three figures, and now stands at £986.”
“In the last 15 minutes, it has gone into vertical freefall.”
“This is very probably the start of something hugely unpleasant.”
http://hat4uk.wordpress.com/
If true what does this mean for Cypress which is being forced to sell its gold?
Oops! Cyprus I mean.
Grhm,
No I don’t have the info you asked for at hand. Maybe as you say there aren’t any. I don’t have a clue. All I meant was for 69p if you really want to buy it then that’s nothing to these companies at the end of the day. Even multiplied 20,000 times.
You could be a troll and not intend to buy it in any circumstances. I don’t know. Don’t really care. I bought it. That’s my protest and that’s from someone who supported her 1979 election win – serious disillusion came later. As I said I don’t care where the 69p goes and I’ve already spent a lot more than that with Amazon.
Lot of people here who don’t want to talk about Mags, aren’t there?
George HW Bush will not be attending, rumours are beginning to suggest, because he is terminally ill.
George W Bush will not be attending, some evidence is beginning to indicate, because he’s back on the sauce…more here:
http://www.fourwinds10.net/siterun_data/government/fraud/gw_bush_ghw_bush/news.php?q=1218479857
Piss on all those who think that the subject of street protests against politicising her bare bones is to awful to contemplate.
Ben Cooper, in his BBC cocoon, should be set alight, alive, to feel the bonfire of despair about the BBC and his kind of attitudes.
Who does he think he fucking is, Lord Mc Kack? telling us that he can’t play what we decide to buy and have as number one?
His attitude is synonymous with the same culture that has been covering up Jimmy Saville’s run of the BBC mill, i.e. its fine for the BBC producers and bods to know, but for us its shut up and play our game. I do not trust the BBC to set its own house in order, Ben Cooper is what you get, apologists for political games and erroneous illusions of grandeur. Yes Ben, we have been led to believe during the last five month that Jimmy Saville is the only pervert in the country, nothing else to see here.
Read Jimmy Savilles biography and weep Ben, cause the reality stares you in the face, i.e. perverts galore, from top to bottom, nothing ever changes, except your editorial line telling you what to say and do.
Shit and we paying for this prole?
Fuck you Ben Cooper, we pay for your splendid wages and for Maggie’s funeral, if we want to demonstrate and shout and be raucous, cause that is what she displayed in her solitary hatred for Scargill and his beating boys miners, so be it, she was never seeing the normal hard working miner behind the protest, this well fed hussy has not an iota on Churchill, however much she rattled her set of balls in front of those taken in by her free marketeering.
I shall ensure that I teach my grandson what she did to this country and what her actions meant to did to the hard working miners.
She was an abject failure to the majority
Lets see some shit flying at her funeral,
apologies for typing fast, just make it up please.
Doug – very odd. Is there something “safer” than gold that these punters are buying instead? Oil, perhaps? But gold was vastly overvalued anyway.
Nevermind,
Did you see Have I Got News For You tonight?
Or did I imagine the whole thing?
“Modern-day debtors’ prison alleged in Ohio”
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/05/17615662-modern-day-debtors-prison-alleged-in-ohio?lite=&lite=obnetwork
“But gold was vastly overvalued anyway.”
Komodo
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2013/04/04/the-assault-on-gold-paul-craig-roberts/
“Fed Orchestrated Smash On Gold”
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2013/04/12/fed-orchestrated-smash-on-gold/
O/T
Exposed: Syrian Observatory for Human Rights is EU-Funded Fraud
NYT admits fraudulent Syrian human rights group is UK-based “one-man band” funded by EU and one other “European country.”
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article34582.htm
Curious. Have I Got News For You on iplayer now gives the error “This content doesn’t seem to be working. Try again later”. It was available earlier. BBC Cowards just watched it or technical glitch?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01ry872/Have_I_Got_News_for_You_Series_45_Episode_2/
Dreolin, next you will be telling me that top Syrian exile tweeters are actually fictitious and actually work for the IDF and get contacted by the BBC for situation reports.
Nice find Dreoilin – Mo cheol tú!
@Habbabkuk writes: “Perhaps not, but obviously enough of the public liked her enough to vote her into office at three successive general elections”
First, parties LOSE elections – the opposition doesn’t win them.
So, the first election you have to ignore because no one could have voted for Thatcher based on her past record, because no one knew who the hell she was.
Second, once a party is in power, the first-past-the-post electoral system strongly favours the incumbents. Hence, a second term in office is a strong possibility UNLESS there is a huge swing to the other party.
By 1982, however, just three years into her first term, Thatcher was the most unpopular PM ever.
A second term was guaranteed as a result of taking this country – or rather a few unlucky soldiers – to war. The British cheered and waved their little flags with no regard for the maimed or dead soldiers (of either side!). Unless you regard a Pyrrhic victory as a great achievement, Thatcher’s success at the polls is, up to this point, based on hot air.
Third, Labour didn’t have any popular leader at the time. A weak opposition does not mean that the party in power deserves to be there. It’s been shown that many people choose personalities over policies. Hence, an unpopular leader does NOT necessarily mean a bad one. The contrary is also true.
Then came Thatcher’s third term. She became so unpopular – AGAIN! – that she had to be forced out of office by her own colleagues (she had a 20% approval rating and her policies sparked violent riots). Anyone who is going to get a state funeral MUST, in the absence of other major achievements, be so popular that they stay in government right up to the point where they decide to leave or stand down. Thatcher FAILS to meet that essential criterion, as well as many others.
People voted Tony Blair into government for almost as long – just one year less, in fact. As the Tories call NEW Labour a socialist party, that makes socialism a very powerful force in this country.
Are we going to see this kind of theft of public money when Blair dies? Will the media talk about the great achievements of socialism and the left-wing? NO, OF COURSE NOT! Because socialism and the left doesn’t pander to corporate interests or the super rich. Those who control the economy aren’t going to promote that which weakens their stranglehold over society.
Go play your games elsewhere. Thatcher created mass unemployment as an easy way to reduce inflation (the Phillips Curve), with no concern for the lives she devastated. William Phillips said that he didn’t intend his graph to be used for that purpose. There was also NO EXPLOSION in growth under Thatcher. The economy grew at the same rate as under OLD Labour. Finally, it was Keith Joseph’s ideas and policies that Thatcher implemented, not her own. Thatcher, however, went too far for even his liking.
The politicians are stealing public money and using Thatcher’s death for POLITICAL ADVANTAGE while telling us that there’s no money left to run any kind of decent public service.
Therefore, any protest at Thatcher’s funeral is PERFECTLY LEGITIMATE given that those who are meant to be grieving are actually focused on self-aggrandizement and lining their own pockets – and that includes Thatcher’s own offspring!
@Habbabkuk, and one final point: it’s X% of the turnout, NOT X% of the country. Hence, if the turnout is 65% and a party gets 45% majority, only 29% of adults have actually voted for them.
At No. 5 in The Amazon UK chart: Elvis Costello “Tramp The Dirt Down!”
And I ask myself, how did I get here?
For the sake of balance, Tony Blair’s death will not be greeted politely either. Good chance the same song might go to Number One.
I seem to have entered an Alice Through the Looking Glass world, where supposed left-wingers use the word ‘prole’ as an insult, or promote union-busting tax-evading corporations; and where simple requests for advice are seen as ‘trolling’.
Weird, but not unaccountable.
People who, like me, missed ‘Have I Got News For You’ but can’t work the I-Player, might like to know that an extended repeat is scheduled to be broadcast on Monday at 2235 on BBC1.
Anon.. We wish Eh….bbc big propoganda we will play the song..it turns out to be 5 seconds…NOT the same thing as Playing at all..But i think there will be ( at least if we are STILL free ) many more songs regarding Bliar – the peace envoy Who craves more wars… ( wwiii no less )
P.s ..We really have to stop feeding it ( them ) – DOUGIE
“Guano,
How can we unite when political Islam is addicted to the same old folly of trusting power instead of Allah?”
Tie your camel and trust in Allah, is a famous hadith you should really grind upon its meaning. Some of your comments and namecalling of muslims who are figting against alawite tyranny in Syria are disgusting.
Islam is a complete doctrine of religion, politics, economics, social life – based on faith in oneness of God. You are trying to deny other aspects of Islam against worship alone. You really need to reassess your sufi views.