In the week they took hundreds of pounds from people in severe poverty, MPs and Lords claim up to £3,750 each to return from their luxury holidays to spout off in honour of Margaret Thatcher. Meantime the media are busy classifying any potential protest or expression of opinion at the taxpayer funded funeral jamboree as “potential terrorism”.
Whether protest at the funeral is tasteful or not is a fair question. But there is no question it is perfectly lawful. There is virtually no understanding of the very notion of civil liberty in the mainstream media.
English Knight,
Your comments are illegal under UK Law. If the mods do not take action I will be contacting the police and formally reporting your post on this blog. I shall also be reporting Craig for taking no action to remove the post.
As Craig and the moderator are taking no action to ban you despite repeated posts of this nature I will suggest they are giving tacit approval to your promotion of views suggesting that Jews deserve and are destined again for the ovens in cattle trucks.
ANY MODERATORS ABOUT OR SHOULD I FORMALLY CONTACT THE POLICE AND LET THEM WORK IT OUT?
[Mod/Jon: emboldening removed. I can’t see the offending post, so assume it has now gone]
@ Herbie :
“Habbakuk
There’s nothing you can say to diminish the stature of Eisenhower as compared with Johnson, not even by mentioning well-known weirdoes like Montgomery or Patton.”
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Well, you might call them weirdoes (I’m sure you’re an expert in military history as well as holding a professional qualification in pyschology), but most miliatry historians seem to thinl they were pretty good (and successful) generals.
But anyway, your arguments smack of desperation. I think that if a poster on this blog were to say, in another context, something in favour of Eisenhower, you would be amoung the first to pour scorn and contempt on him. You would probably refer to the McCarthy period, to the growth of the military-industrial complex, to American-inspired coups in Latin America, to the first reactions against Castro’s Cuba, and so on. Funny and bizarre, therefore, that you should use his presence at Churchill’s funeral as an example to be used negatively against Margaret Thatcher.
Are you commenting in bad faith, or are you merely a bit dim?
@ Anon :
While you’re at it, you could also tell them that some of Mary’s posts appear to be designed to stir up racial and religious hatred.
Habbabkuk (La vita è bella!)
Being anti-zionist is not a crime in the UK. There are posters here who might also fall foul of legislation with regards to racial hatred, but if Mary is one of them then I have not seen the evidence. You seem to be just distracting and your strange cyber-stalking of Mary might also raise some questions with UK Law.
I should have said “racial or religious” hatred.
What Chávez accused Capriles of being involved with is a fascist organization:
Chávez did accuse the organization he said he has proof Capriles belonged to, Tradición, familia y propiedad, leads youth along paths that are neo-Nazi as well as violent and fascist, but he called the organization “fascist”, not “Nazi”.
As Facebook seems to have disappeared the #dingdong Harburg statement from “feeds” and the campaign’s main page, here is the direct facebook link to the statement as re-posted by John Goss above. Just in case people can’t find it… The campaign can’t tweet it as their twitter account has been banned.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/2807687628/permalink/10151573569487629/
Habbakuk
I’ll just assume you were tired, overwrought and emotional whilst you penned that embarrassingly distracted garbage above.
The matter is very simple.
Obama is sending no one of serious current institutional stature to Ding Dong il’s funeral. He isn’t even sending anyone of stature more generally. No one of stature is attending in a private capacity.
This projected self-importance is like something out of Gulliver’s Travels
The curtain has been pulled back and we can see the wee man ever more desperately pulling on strings that no longer are attached to anything.
Ding dong
“The Madman Strategy
Apr. 14, 2013”
http://japanfocus.org/events/view/180
As someone who once attended a talk by Steve Bell on his cartoons…
Just how much symbolism is in this one?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cartoon/2013/apr/15/steve-bell-big-ben-ding-dong-cartoon
The more you look at it, the more there is.
HI @ 12:29
MAD is the strategy. The only problem with MAD is if you are dealing with someone crazier than YOU.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutual_assured_destruction
Oh, PS: To stir up controversy there is Freemason symbolism in that cartoon along with much else. Happy hunting http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cartoon/2013/apr/15/steve-bell-big-ben-ding-dong-cartoon
I’m sure the Media will be hard at work with bullshit about all the ( high ranking ) international faces, they will get away with it too, ( they always do ) since the majority of those watching will be ignorant as to Who’s Who
They will do the same thing with estimated number of mourners lining the streets.
Just as they do with watering down every protest numbers.
I was at the anti Trident protest in Glasgow on Saturday,
By Lunchtime the bbc were trying to call a three Quarters full George Square – a crowd of 300 people, When there was certainly around 2,000 there.
The Millionaires, the billionaires, and the elite made these arrangements for this funeral, and then make an almost broken public foot the bill.
It wouldn’t surprise me – that their laughing so hard at us – would finish a few of them off
Ding Dong The Witch is Dead
http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=PHQLQ1Rc_Js#!
Doug Scorgie, 16 Apr, 8:16p
English Knight, 16 Apr, 8:57p
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Doug, I don’t normally play matchmaker on this blog – there’s something kinda sleazy about online dating. But I’d like to introduce you to someone who shares your views. Doug – English Knight.. English Knight – Doug. I’m sure you will have lots to talk about. 🙂
fur fucksake jemad ..Why do you feel the need to do this…is this the BEST BLOG going….untill it killed oor Blog
it being WEE Know Who
@ Herbie :
Ok, let’s stop wasting time :
– no American of Eisenhower’s stature is attending this funeral
– Maregaret Thatcher won the political argument and changed the country permanently and definitively.
I think most people can work out which of the above two facts is the most important.
O/T
I’m copying a comment from a Swedish contributor on another thread to the ‘front page’ as he/she is asking a question that I’m not qualified to answer. Any legal eagles here who can elucidate for them?
I believe the questioner is referring to the testimony of Goran Rudling at the Belmarsh hearing in the Assange extradition case. I don’t myself know what exactly the Swedish forum have later discovered was untruthful (though I do think if there is something behind this it might go some way to explaining Goran Rudling’s extraordinary behaviour in Craig’s blog) but I’m curious about how/whether UK cases are ever reopened on the basis that a witness’s testimony was unreliable.
@Habbabkuk, 16 Apr, 10:51p – “I can’t of course speak for Jemand, but he might have been referring to the destruction, by the Taliban, of cultural artifacts in Afghanistan predating Islam in that unhappy country.”
Actually, the link I posted was to an SBS story about the destruction of manuscripts in Timbuktu. But your reference to the whole destruction of 1500 year old Bhuddist statues illustrates the very same pattern of destruction of both Islamic and non-Islamic cultural works that eventually follows the spread of fundamentalist Islam.
It should be noted that these fundamentalist Muslims are faithful to the principles of Islam, so they are not doing anything wrong within the edicts of their religion. It’s quite clear that one is not to worship false idols and anything that is not written in the Quran is not important, is evil or unworthy of preservation. Erasure of history (including ancient Islamic) also serves the contemporary objectives of political Islam by eliminating competing systems of belief and culture. Islam doesn’t have a monopoly on cultural revolutions of this nature. It is a standard tactic for ‘total conquest’ by any authoritarian regime.
Now, Doug Scorgie has resorted to crying “racist” at someone for merely providing evidence of wrongdoing by, or within, various non-caucasian groups. He doesn’t provide evidence to support his defamation, preferring instead to selectively quote from someone’s comment and hope that others can imagine the objectionable sentiments he wishes to project. It could be a tactic to erode the memory of his silly “minge” joke earlier on this thread, for which he was roundly slapped down.
However, I want to make clear my sympathies for people who suffered under Thatcher. For them, personally, there might not have been any recovery. But your nation, can and probably will get back on her feet. Compare this temporary setback to the permanent loss of historical artifacts and the more egregious loss of biodiversity – it’s a lot worse than closing down a coal mining industry.
My references to the culturally destructive effects of Islam can be replaced with commentary on the environmentally destructive effects of invasive overpopulation and industrialisation. What has taken millions of years to evolve into vast numbers of animal and plant species is quickly erased in several generations of rapacious human expansion. I wonder if anyone can be accused of racism for discussing this issue.
I posted an earlier comment that tried to put so-called terrorism into perspective by comparing it to the 300+ deaths experienced every day on the roads of China. I had read somewhere else, that 700 pedestrians die every day in that country. Whatever the numbers, the problem doesn’t attract the same attention that terrorism does. And, of course, neither does cultural destruction or contraction of biodiversity.
So the message here, my British friends, is don’t despair – there is much, much more to be depressed about than the coming and going of a bad national leader.
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Links to contemporary acts of destruction –
How to erase history, part I –
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhas_of_Bamiyan
How to erase history, part II –
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timbuktu_Manuscripts
Islamic heritage not safe –
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destruction_of_early_Islamic_heritage_sites
Hello “freedom and democracy” (and looting and destruction) –
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/42stargate/03files/Looting_of_Iraqi_Treasures_01.html
Present rate of extinction sufficient to eliminate most species within 100 years –
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biodiversity
Cheer up, it gets worse –
http://www.globalissues.org/article/171/loss-of-biodiversity-and-extinctions
Christ. I see the troll has succeeded in its efforts to sow dissension and distrust here, big time. The wholly irrelevant issue of who attended or did not attend Churchill’s funeral is I think its proudest moment. Well done, troll. A very professional job, and I expect you will be well rewarded.
Jemand, I take your point. But (as Guano repeatedly says) the problem is with political Islam, and not restricted to Islam. The exceptionalist policies of the US have very deep roots in fundamentalist Christian thinking. Land theft and ethnic cleansing in Israel is ‘justified’ by alleging that God gave the Israelis the land. Need I mention the slaughter of Sikhs by Hindus following Indira Gandhi’s assassination?
When religion enters politics, horrors follow, and it doesn’t matter what the religion is.
Thinking Northern Ireland… Ironic, isn’t it, that the US is in headless chicken mode following the Boston atrocity? The romantic Irish expatriates of Boston were happy to donate to NORAID and Clan na Gael – the former implicated in, and the latter definitely funding PIRA during the Troubles.
Happy funeral, everyone, anyway.
Jemand
Since you have mixed up shrines and Thatcher in one comment, can I say that I am even allergic to the enshrined and ennobled monuments to the dead in St Pauls Cathedral, which is full of unspeakable, imperialist, mad people like her. All of these nasty, pompous people have to face their Creator in due course.
Their self-importance is classified in the Qur’an as associating partners with Allah/ i.e. shirk. Who needs texts containing doctrines of shirk? And who on earth needs graven images and graves? Check out the Judaeo-Christian scriptures on that.
I have seen grave worship being practised at the Nizamudin shrine in Delhi and in the prophet’s mosque SAW in Madinah.
It’s a question of education, and destroying the shrines is one excellent way to do it in my opinion.
@ Komodo :
“The wholly irrelevant issue of who attended or did not attend Churchill’s funeral is…”
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I quite agree and have said so. Can you refresh our memories, Komodo, as to which ccommenter started this off by posting “Wot, no President?”
Thank you very much.
and may I now suggest that as a mark of respect, posters mark a POSTING SILENCE for the duration of Mrs Thatcher’s funeral?
thank you.
It’s good, isn’t it? Though a little subject to knight’s-move thinking – a well known symptom of schizophrenia.
Back to the pompous and party-political interment of a PM who wasn’t fit to lick Churchill’s boots…
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/sifting-the-evidence/2013/apr/09/thatcher-illusion-flipping-prime-ministers
Ding dong, now bury then witch, ding dong. Today is the day she’ll meet her old mates in hell, and all the silent bells won’t stop us paying for her sordid funeral.
On the dole until the last minute, ding dong, the bad example will get buried, leaving offshore havens treasure to the beloved son and daughter.
Ding dong, an end to the fawning, lets get on with reality, the sham claims of the last week will be buried with her.
ding dong the witch is getting turned to ashes, her last burst of energy, a gas flash and up in smoke she goes, may her ashes turn blood red in the remembrance of the dead soldiers that died in an avoidable war in the Falklands.
“and may I now suggest that as a mark of respect, posters mark a POSTING SILENCE for the duration of Mrs Thatcher’s funeral?”
Don’t be daft, Habbabkuk. Maintain a posting silence yourself, if you want to.
Barbecue!
Terry Wogan carefully adjusting his toupee … some phenomenally weird hats … that’s enough for me, thank you very much.
It’s all about as weird as this
http://www.kilkennypeople.ie/news/local/awe-as-virgin-mary-appears-on-graig-hill-1-4981511
ANON: Re your complaint about English Knight. No-one here is endorsing him, on the contrary, all posters are clearly just ignoring him. I don’t know what’s happening with moderation. However, a post from Craig on an earlier thread:
craig
3 Nov, 2012 – 9:10 am
English Knight
Have deleted another post of yours. if you want to post stuff about “Jews, gays and dykes” there is a whole internet out there for you but you will be banned from this bit of it if you continue that stuff.
craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2012/11/savile-and-the-low-hanging-fruit/
I suggest, Anon, that you contact CM directly on the email link above.
It’s quite clearly crazy, btw, to suggest that Mary is anywhere in the same ball park.
As for Jemand and his anti-Islamic stuff: endless previous threads have destroyed these canards. I’m fed up with it. So I’m just posting this, because it’s quite clever and funny, unlike most of the current posts.
cracked.com/article_18911_5-ridiculous-things-you-probably-believe-about-islam.html