In the week they took hundreds of pounds from people in severe poverty, MPs and Lords claim up to £3,750 each to return from their luxury holidays to spout off in honour of Margaret Thatcher. Meantime the media are busy classifying any potential protest or expression of opinion at the taxpayer funded funeral jamboree as “potential terrorism”.
Whether protest at the funeral is tasteful or not is a fair question. But there is no question it is perfectly lawful. There is virtually no understanding of the very notion of civil liberty in the mainstream media.
@Mary
“Now, back to trolls. Paid or unpaid, they have a common result: to divert the discussion, distract and change opinions.”
Oh well Mary – some work still required on the latter objective before you can join troll club. As well as for your explanation for your latest superfluous Jewish reference re Cabriles – I’m still waiting an explanation for all the others I noted previously. A apology for your “untermensch” reference is still overdue. I’m rather tempted to make a donation to a charity edcuating on the dangers of anti-semitism every time you make one of these objectionable utterances.
Benefit scroungers with too many bedrooms-
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/lady-thatcher-cost-taxpayers-535000-in-past-five-years-2376986.html
Guano – thanks for your comment. I’m so ignorant as to be rather surprised that it should matter to a Muslim who the Prophet’s successor was*, let alone matter enough to justify killing a brother for his opinion.. But I guess that’s people…and as such a very hard situation to reverse.
*given the relatively non-hierarchical nature of the ummah.
Roll up roll up The only known 6 by 8 ft oil painting of Thatcher Bliar Kissinger & Suharto: “Batting for Britain” on my website.It should grace the walls of No: 10 ! Am sending cards to our thuggish Hague and Kill a kid Cameron,It is utterly horrific that the last 4 P.M.s have all been war criminals though I do realise theft and genocide make a few psychopaths very very very rich.It no longer matters how we vote, Israel & the Unusually Sadistic Assasins have so corrupted politics all parties are identical in monetary policy and overseas mass murder.
“cloning of Mrs T’s phoney trail will inevitably lead to the Zionist Miliband family coming to power at the next election.”
Perhaps if you looked at the matter more closely you might find that the Milliband family is slightly less Zionist than you imagine – that is of course if you have the critical faculties to distinguish between having Jewish ancestry and being Zionist .
http://www.voltairenet.org/article168181.html
“I see Capriles is actually Radonski.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henrique_Capriles_Radonski”
This is antipolish slur. I demand on behalf of Polish nation instant apology from Mary person.
Komodo, you old dragon at 3.48 p.m. Your Polish spelling leaves much to be desired.
If anyone here needs lessons in producing ad hominems, try reading Tara McElvey (who she?) on the BBC website.
Nobel peace prize (with Le Duc Tho of North Vietnam)
1974 Created “shuttle diplomacy”, helping to broker peace treaty between Egypt and Israel
1977 Left government, depositing his papers with US Library of Congress (they remain under seal)
BBC History: Henry Kissinger
The statement is vintage Assange – full of swagger and bombast, replete with the rhetoric of public service.
‘Six years after Wikileaks was founded, Assange and his organisation are under pressure. He worked on the database at the Ecuadorean Embassy in London, where he is now living.
He has not been charged with a crime, but two women say he committed sexual offences, which he denies, and Swedish officials want to question him. Meanwhile Wikileaks has experienced well-publicised financial difficulties.’
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Why Julian Assange would target Henry Kissinger
By Tara McKelvey
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22095116
BBC News Magazine
Komodo
The point is that faith is defined by proximity of the heart to God and His messenger, not proximity of the DNA.
If a policeman obeys the rule of his heart that cutting police presence will increase crime, why should he be sacked for it? Cutting executive pay would be a much more intelligent economy than cutting police stations.
Cameron and Osborne favour the ‘bought’ who agree with them over the rest of us who disagree. We are penalised for believing in justice. The criteria of Islam are faith, justice, charity. All absent in the philosophy of Mrs Thatcher.
Sorry, spilled the Scrabble set again.
That picked up the Kissinger biography in the side bar.
If anyone here needs lessons in producing ad hominems, try reading Tara McElvey (who she?) on the BBC website.
‘The statement is vintage Assange – full of swagger and bombast, replete with the rhetoric of public service.
‘Six years after Wikileaks was founded, Assange and his organisation are under pressure. He worked on the database at the Ecuadorean Embassy in London, where he is now living.
He has not been charged with a crime, but two women say he committed sexual offences, which he denies, and Swedish officials want to question him. Meanwhile Wikileaks has experienced well-publicised financial difficulties.’
12 April 2013
Why Julian Assange would target Henry Kissinger
By Tara McKelvey
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22095116
BBC News Magazine
Here are some truly great female leaders, in comparison to the late lamented Thatcher.
Women Leaders and the Great Turning
by Kevin Zeese and Margaret Flowers
April 12th, 2013
http://dissidentvoice.org/2013/04/women-leaders-and-the-great-turning/
Folks worried about virus infection. If you run either Java or Flash (and most have Flash) then YOU MUST ALLOW THESE TO AUTOUPDATE ALWAYS. Most machines I see belonging to friends or family with a virus infection have old version of Flashplayer and Java on their machines. Security holes in these products have been very widely exploited to implant trojans on PCs.
Microsoft, Apple, Facebook and many other large companies have been infected themselves via these exploits. You don’t even have to visit a dodgy site as mainstream sites may have had its own servers infected or more likely are simply displaying ads from ad providers. The ads themselves are infected. That said according to webcrawlers, the site pornhub (and related) is one of the most heavily infected sites.
Having the latest version of Flash and Java doesn’t guarantee 100% safety but it greatly reduces the time window and number of vulnerabilities available to an attack,
Another trick used by some trojans is to allow the virus scanner to find a sacrificial copy of itself while others are hidden deep down. You think you have cleared the machine and the scanner says all is ok but it is not. A disk diagnostic utility booted from CD/DVD to blank the disk followed by format and then re-install from read only CD/DVD media with a known good copy of the Operating System is needed to be absolutely sure. Even then it could be in the BIOS but that’s a whole other can of worms probably best not opened in this thread.
Diagnostic tools for drives to allow this complete wipe can often be downloaded from the manufacturers website. Failing this delete existing partitions using installation media, then do a full format as second best before repartitioning your drive as required and re-installing the operating system.
Flash Version check at http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/find-version-flash-player.html
Java at https://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp?detect=jre
Des Res
This is my bubble car. The Bentley’s with the chauffeur. Cameron doesn’t zap Assad. Does that mean he’s joined Stop the War?
The day a UK politician doesn’t jump to the Zionist/US President command is the day that global power is transferred to Zionist China.
Mary
Why don’t you quote the sections of the article which highlight the criticisms of Kissinger – if the best you can come up with is that she accuses Assange of having “swagger and bomabast” – given that the rest of what she says about Assange is entirely factual then I’m afraid you are really struggling. Given that I suspect your idea of balanced reporting would be to assign hero status tro Assange and devil status to Kissinger – and not allow anyone to form their own views based on the facts, I suspect your views as to what does and doesn’t constitute balance reporting really aren’t worth listening to.
And I think you will find that Tara McElvey is Tara McElvey who is a journalist who works for the BBC.
Sorry for all bolded. Wasn’t meant to be. Should have also said that browsers, media players and of course, the OS should always also be kept up to date. Yes it is possible someone can hijack their extremely securely signed downloads but that’s unlikely. Unless you’re working for North Korea or something when it might be more likely…
Guano
I think I had already worked out that you operate in a bubble of your own making – why the reference to the Milibands at all if it doesn’t make any difference?
Venceremos!
Thatcher is Dead—Long Live Chávez!
By George Ciccariello-Maher – Counterpunch, April 12th 2013
http://venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/8589
And talking of zero day exploits. Apparently civilian aircraft flight software in common use allows a hacker to use the almost unbelievably totally unsecured, in the clear ACARS channels to compromise first ACARS and then via trickery the Flight Control Software. Some phone multifunction radio chips astonishingly even have an ACARS transceiver which can be enabled with a simple bit twiddle. Just been demonstrated at a recent hacker conference that it is possible for a passenger to take control of a plane from their mobile phone. Or from the ground with a stronger transmitter if not suicidal.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/04/11/hacking_aircraft_with_android_handset/
From a quick scan of the presentation and comments on professional forums from people who know what they are talking about, it seems legit.
Why? Because before Blair had a dig at Ed Miliband yesterday everyone had forgotten he existed.
The plane controller guy also reckons there are vulnerable routes into the system over the internet as well. Recreate your own Die Hard 2 from the comfort of your own front room. Likely followed by a not so comfortable room for the rest of your life of course.
The media reports saying that the pilots could simply switch the systems off. Well let’s just say it is not as simple as that and leave it there but the gory story is out there.
There’s always an alternative on the day.
A lot of us are having a day out in France next week. Wednesday seems about right
We’re led to believe there’s one of those ‘Welcome to Ruritania’ things on in England that day.
Still plenty of room on board mateys !!
I’m getting sick of hearing people say that it’s “distasteful” to protest at Thatcher’s funeral. Even Craig Murray writes:
“Whether protest at the funeral is tasteful or not is a fair question.”
NO, IT’S NOT A FAIR QUESTION.
It’s not a fair question because the public is being forced to pay for an elaborate state funeral THAT WE DIDN’T ASK FOR. Massive excess for an individual who did what for this country and our lives? Thatcher was lionised NOT by the public, but by the politicians and businessmen of her day, those who profited from her policies, men such as Rupert Murdoch. As George Orwell wrote:
“He who controls the past, controls the future. He who controls the present controls the past.”
If I were one of Thatcher’s children, I would tell the politicians that, sorry, it’s going to be a private funeral, so go away, and STOP EXPLOITING MY MOTHER’S DEATH FOR POLITICAL PURPOSES.
Only a private funeral would make it right to question the propriety of protesting.
Yet again, those in power and the corporate media are setting the agenda: “The public behaving badly!”.
It’s NOT the public that’s behaving badly, it’s the politicians – vultures picking over Thatcher’s corpse for political advantage.
Nobody cares about Thatcher’s death, not Cameron, not Johnson, not Murdoch – NONE OF THEM! If they really cared, they would be paying for the cost of this ostentatious funeral out of their own pockets, and demanding a private funeral.
“A Christmas Carol” (1951); the Ghost of Christmas Yet to Come: not even businessmen mourned Scrooge’s death.
BBC NuSpeak
Just now on BBC London News
‘Pressure mounts for the last British resident of Guantanamo to be released’.
They mean prisoner of course. Imprisoned, tortured, harassed, manhandled, insulted etc
Dead pigs, birds and fish in the Shanghai River which is the water source for that city. I suspect this new flu may be related to the pollution. since it is centered in Shanghai. I haven’t seen any reports making that connection.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/9978239/Hundreds-of-dead-fish-found-rotting-in-Shanghai-river.html
Sycophancy galore.
Margaret Thatcher: One of Us
http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/105333/margaret-thatcher-one-us
with a nice photo of Thatcher with Golda Meir.
One would think that the JC, by using the phrase ‘one of us’, are saying she was Jewish?
“The question is, once it does collapse, who’s going to pick up the pieces”
http://ragingbullshit.com/2013/04/12/europes-stark-choice-resignation-or-revolution/
Those famous lines of Shelley are included in this piece by Tariq Ali.
Wars, Union-Busting and Neo-Liberalism
Decay and Ruin in Mrs. Thatcher’s England
by TARIQ ALI
This interview with Tariq Ali was conducted by Die Presse in Vienna and appears in German in the paper’s Sunday edition.
http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/04/12/decay-and-ruin-in-mrs-thatchers-england/
Tariq Ali:
http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/04/12/decay-and-ruin-in-mrs-thatchers-england/
Gilad Atzmon:
http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/04/12/controlled-opposition/
George Ciccariello-Maher
http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/04/12/thatcher-is-dead-long-live-chavez/
Ben,
The Chinese have stated categorically that the dead pigs in the river tested negative for H7N9. Who knows for sure though.
“DESPICABLE #DWP #ATOS tell woman with mental age of 3yrs to get a job (not satire – please share)”
http://blacktrianglecampaign.org/2013/04/11/despicable-dwp-atos-tell-woman-with-mental-age-of-3yrs-to-get-a-job-not-satire-please-share/#comment-31092