The Official Tsarnaev Story Makes No Sense 343

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There are gaping holes in the official story of the Boston bombings.

We are asked to believe that Tamerlan Tsarnaev was identified by the Russian government as an extremist Dagestani or Chechen Islamist terrorist, and they were so concerned about it that in late 2010 they asked the US government to take action. At that time, the US and Russia did not normally have a security cooperation relationship over the Caucasus, particularly following the Russian invasion of Georgia in 2008. For the Russians to ask the Americans for assistance, Tsarnaev must have been high on their list of worries.

In early 2011 the FBI interview Tsarnaev and trawl his papers and computers but apparently – remarkably for somebody allegedly radicalised by internet – the habitually paranoid FBI find nothing of concern.

So far, so weird. But now this gets utterly incredible. In 2012 Tamerlan Tsarnaev, who is of such concern to Russian security, is able to fly to Russia and pass through the airport security checks of the world’s most thoroughly and brutally efficient security services without being picked up. He is then able to proceed to Dagestan – right at the heart of the world’s heaviest military occupation and the world’s most far reaching secret police surveillance – again without being intercepted, and he is able there to go through some form of terror training or further Islamist indoctrination. He then flies out again without any intervention by the Russian security services.

That is the official story and I have no doubt it did not happen. I know Russia and I know the Russian security services. Whatever else they may be, they are extremely well-equipped, experienced and efficient and embedded into a social fabric accustomed to cooperation with their mastery. This scenario is simply impossible in the real world.

We have, by the official account, the involvement of the two Tsarnaev brothers, the FBI and the Russian security services. The FBI have a massive recent record of running agent provocateur operations to entrap gullible Muslims into terrorism. The Russian security services have form on false flag Chechen bombings. Where the truth lies may be difficult to dig out. But the above official version is not true.

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  • Ben Franklin -Machine Gun Preacher (unleaded version)

    Crab, your claws are specialized tools for dismantling, but I wait for you to build something.

  • Mark Golding - Children of Conflict

    It seems a credible source working out of Dubai has suggested the Tsarnaev brothers were trained in explosives/weapons to fight against Syrian government forces. Russian intelligence became aware of this indoctrination and took up a plan to warn the US authorities with the intention of preventing further sponsoring that also included a financial package.

    The US cold-shouldered the request more than once compelling Russian intelligence to coerce the lads to ‘turncoat’ on their US handlers and teach them a lesson.

  • Greenmachine

    The great liberating power of the internet is encapsulated in this thread. 10 years ago how many people would be questioning official narratives or seeking further evidence to clarify understanding. We were expected to consume and believe the punditry of the MSM. In the 10 years I have been researching for myself using all forms of source it has been hugely empowering. I certainly do not know all the answers but I sure as hell have many many more questions as time goes bye -surely a good thing if somewhat unsettling!
    The question that keeps nagging away in relation to the Boston bombings is the appearance of the naked man, who may or may not be Tamarlan, in News broadcasts before the narrative of suspect#1’s demise was aired.Can anyone enlighten me on this one? There is too much here to dismiss the possibility of the Intelligence Agencies manipulating / manufacturing / guiding the events that surround this tragic event.

  • Ben Franklin -Machine Gun Preacher (unleaded version)

    Mark; Walid Jumblat obliquely made that connection in my post above, but I thought it was just the cognac.

  • Dreoilin

    Guess what’s on BBC1 tonight

    Air Force One
    (1997, Detective/Thriller) The American president is forced to take drastic measures to save his family when their plane is hijacked by Russian terrorists

    starring Harrison Ford, Gary Oldman, Glenn Close, Dean Stockwell and William H Macy.
    🙂

  • mike

    The mainstream are struggling to contain this one to the official conspiracy theory. The alternative media are far more prevalent, and accessible, now than they were in the past, so the myriad anomalies and inconsistencies can be viewed by a sizeable section of the population, very quickly.
    No wonder people are turning away from the mainstream in their droves.

  • crab

    The cluesforum has some really strong examinations including the comicaly highlighted oddity of police 20 or 30 yards from the cafe blast, just seconds afterwards ushering still jogging runners past it on the other side of the road. No accounting for daze and competitive instinct maybe? The get down reflex seems absent? Anyway.

    This post in particular has comparitive gifs revealing, on the face of it, some quite inexplicable movement of people in sequential images that were released of the scene.

    http://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=1602&start=450#p2383441

  • Jives

    Dreoilin,(Air Force One)

    Indeed and well spotted.

    There are no media acccidents-or schedules that fail to imprint and reinforce the Official Narrative.

    On a slight,perhaps,tangent Tamburlaine is a play by Christopher Marlowe.

    Tamerlane in Boston?

    The spooks do like their in-jokes and Marlowe was spooked up to the max-even,allegedly,in death.

    The exegesis of Tamburlaine is fascinating.There is a Syria connection.

  • Dreoilin

    Jives,

    Timur
    or Tamerlane or Tamburlaine

    http://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/Tamburlaine

    was referred to (apparently) by many media folk, including Tim Marshall on Sky News (I saw/heard him myself.) But I’ve read that they all had to drop it after they discovered that Tamerlan is a very common name in the area around where the brothers’ family originated.

    I watched the beginning of the rubbish that is ‘Air Force One’, and the action started where? Kazakhstan.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Force_One_%28film%29

    As you say, no media accidents.

  • Dreoilin

    Jives, I included the ‘freedictionary’ link for others who might not know what you’re referring to.
    I also looked up the play by Christopher Marlowe. I am now better informed. 😉

  • Anon

    “Not everything squares” – Anderson Cooper on CNN a few seconds ago talking about the Boston bombings.

  • Mark Golding - Children of Conflict

    O/T (kinda?)

    A new report — the result of months of investigation by five different House committees — says there was plenty of intelligence that presaged the attack, but the State Department and President Obama failed to heed the warnings or give the Defense Department the authority to respond to such an attack.

    The report exonerates the Pentagon itself, saying the military did what it could to respond once the attack began, but “was hindered on account of U.S. military forces not being properly postured” beforehand.

    In the most damning finding, House Republicans said Mr. Obama and his team lied about the attacks afterward, first by blaming mob violence spawned by an anti-Muslim video, and then wrongly saying it had misled the public because it was trying to protect an FBI investigation.

    “This progress report reveals a fundamental lack of understanding at the highest levels of the State Department as to the dangers presented in Benghazi, Libya, as well as a concerted attempt to insulate the Department of State from blame following the terrorist attacks,” the GOP investigation concluded in its 46-page report.

    The Obama administration has acknowledged providing an inaccurate explanation for the attacks early on — even though officials at the Defense Department said they knew it was a terrorist assault from the beginning.

    But Mr. Obama has vehemently denied he intended to deceive the public.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/apr/23/house-gop-administration-blew-benghazi-response/

  • Anon

    http://edition.cnn.com/2013/04/23/us/ricin-suspect-released/

    Charges against Mississippi ricin suspect dropped

    (CNN) — Charges against the Mississippi man accused of sending ricin-tainted letters to President Barack Obama and other officials were dropped Tuesday, U.S. Attorney Felicia Adams said, citing “new information” that has been uncovered.

    Authorities now are investigating whether someone may have tried to falsely implicate Paul Kevin Curtis, according to a law enforcement source, speaking to CNN on condition of anonymity.

    Curtis said he wants to “get back to being normal” after being falsely accused.

  • Anon

    Mark Golding,

    What’s your opinion on “unusual” weapons in the second Iraq war? About the time Baghdad airport was taken. Just curious.

  • Anon

    Iraq reporting and death

    Bloom’s name was pegged to a vehicle he used in Iraq, the “Bloom Mobile.” It was an Army M88 tank recovery vehicle retrofitted by Miramar, Florida-based company Maritime Telecommunications Network, with live television and satellite transmission equipment so he could continuously broadcast reports as troops made their way toward Baghdad.[2]

  • Suhayl Saadi

    If one looks back at the Breivik killings, people were specualting this had been some sort of state-sponsored op to bring Norway ‘back into line’ (assuming it had gone out of line), trigger a rightward political move there, etc. I don’t think it was, actually, but there was considerable speculation on the web, including on this blog, at first along those lines. Same with all the domestic US shootings.

    So, I don’t really think Giles’s point (that when Jihadists commit terrorist acts, everyone looks for state conspiracy, but when White Supremacists do it, no-one does the implication of Giles’s point, I think being that liberals/Leftists, etc. tend to look for ‘excuses’, or ameliorative provenances, for Jihadists but not for White Supremacists) holds up to much scrutiny.

  • Dreoilin

    “Last night on CNN, Piers Morgan and New York Republican State Sen. Greg Ball got into quite the tense exchange over the desire to torture the currently hospitalized Boston bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev. Throughout the battle, Ball repeatedly mocked Morgan, calling him “dude” and joking about his British accent.

    “The entire debate came from a tweet Ball sent out on Friday night, upon Tsarnaev’s capture in Watertown, Mass., reading: “So, scum bag #2 in custody. Who wouldn’t use torture on this punk to save more lives?” ”

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/can-you-stop-being-a-jerk-piers-battles-gop-lawmaker-who-wants-to-torture-scumbag-behind-bombings/

    Greg Ball: US Air Force Academy Graduate and Former AF Officer, Current New York State Senator

    Another ‘jock’ without a moral compass.

  • doug scorgie

    Ben Franklin -Machine Gun Preacher (unleaded version)
    23 Apr, 2013 – 3:55 pm

    If you criticise Israel you will be branded anti-Semitic by UN Watch.

    UN Watch is a Zionist hasbara organization affiliated with the American Jewish Committee (a Jewish political lobby group) and pay rolled by the World Jewish Congress (a staunch Zionist organisation).

    So Richard Faulk anti-Semitic? No.

  • doug scorgie

    Dreoilin
    24 Apr, 2013 – 1:07 am
    To Jives,

    “As you say, no media accidents.”

    Recently appointed head of the BBC Tony Hall:

    “Anthony William Hall, Baron Hall of Birkenhead, CBE (born 3 March 1951), usually known as Tony Hall, is the Director-General of the BBC. He assumed this position on 2 April 2013.”

    “In April 2007, in the wake of the 2007 Iranian seizure of Royal Navy personnel, he was asked to inquire into the MOD’s media strategy.”

    “He was appointed to the board of the British Council in 2008.”

    “The British Council was inspired by Sir Reginald (Rex) Leeper’s recognition of the importance of “cultural propaganda” in promoting British interests.

    “Its “sponsoring department” within the United Kingdom Government is the Foreign and Commonwealth Office.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Hall,_Baron_Hall_of_Birkenhead#External_posts

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