Now officially Britain’s wealthiest man, Alisher Usmanov has perhaps the world’s most carefully manicured Wikipedia entry. This article looks interesting and worrying. Can anyone do a good translation? Automatic web translators seem to struggle with it even more than usual. Please do not post any automated translations.
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@Fred
And please desist with your misplaced WWII fascist vocabulary … it’s an insult to the victims of that war.
“Now, I don’t know about you but I can find not one word in that statement of Galloway’s that says anything about a YouGov poll that makes UKIP the third party in Britain.”
He said UKIP was the third party in British politics, you said he was talking shite, the YouGov poll says he wasn’t.
Is that logical enough for you?
There is a new poll out today, a ComRes poll for the Independent, they have UKIP on 19% and Lib Dems on 8%.
http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/
Logic is what the numbers say, not what you want to believe.
“And please desist with your misplaced WWII fascist vocabulary … it’s an insult to the victims of that war.”
Like Arthur Donaldson?
@Fred
Never let it be said that I can’t admit error … when I said that there was no word in Galloway’s statement about UKIP’s third place in the British political parties.
I misread. There was.
The rest of his statement is still shite.
Mr Maduro’s election win has been verified.
Bad luck Capriles or should I say Radonski which will inflame the RI…again.
‘Zero error’ in Venezuelan poll results
http://www.morningstaronline.co.uk/news/content/view/full/133007
and off topic too!
@April Showers
Off topic? So what. It seems all the threads go off topic for one reason or another.
Do I have to present my excuses to the others who may have wished to post this evening? Don’t answer that … I may feel so embarrassed that I never come back!
I enjoyed … sometimes like an argument.
There’s a quote about Scots written by some 14th or 15th century Frenchman that says, “Les Ecossais n’aiment point la paix”.
Sometimes still true today, I’m afraid!
“The rest of his statement is still shite.”
I’m not exactly a member of the George Galloway fan club but he is remarkably well informed about a lot of things and the seedier side of Scottish politics is one of them.
Hard to think of anyone better placed to give an opinion.
Craig,
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10622493
Yeah, Goggs is well-placed; ex-Labour, the dirtiest, most in-bred party of the lot.
Black shirts, Fred? Really, you are losing it, aren’t you.
In the seventies, when I was a leftie student, we chased the NF out of Edinburgh and one lad banjaxed the heid bummer with a ‘No Nazis’ placard. This was a sewing bee in comparison.
But it suits your agenda to big it up. Like it suited von Papen to big up wee Adolf.
Farage has bandied about the ‘N’ word and said that the ‘nig-nogs’ would never vote UKIP. He’s a very presentable face of a very dark underbelly indeed.
Be careful. They’re smarter than you.
On Arthur Donaldson, nothing new under the sun. Fred quite happy with the idea of arbitary contrived arrest, but not with some spirited heckling. Guy Liddell too! the Fifth man, or was it the Sixth if you count Hollis, or Seventh if you count Lord Trend. Spooks abound.
This is a must read:
http://the-universality-of-cheese.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/grand-old-man-of-scottish-nationalism.html
You obviously aren’t thick Fred, so you are simply being disingenous.
This conversation is closed.
Funny Cameron bit, visiting Obama, on Jon Stewart’s Daily show earlier this week. Check it out. He really is stone-faced (literally, not drunkenly, though who knows?)
“Black shirts, Fred? Really, you are losing it, aren’t you.”
No, that’s what they call people who bully and intimidate political opponents. It’s wrong, as who does it and to who they are doing it to it is wrong.
When it is fanatical Nationalists doing it it is even more worrying. The votes of rational people have to be split between a number of parties don’t see why the votes of fanatics shouldn’t be too.
Did you have a reliable source for your quote by the way?
Fred….
“fanatical Nationalists”. err no. Just naughty public schoolboys from Harrow and Marlboro school in England. Oh and trustees of Edinburgh University students association on £18K a year. Mike Shaw and Mr Crema.
“the world’s most carefully manicured Wikipedia entry.”
The Labour Friends of Israel page is a strong contender. Try adding anything that isn’t a paraphrase of their own website and watch it revert within minutes.
http://www.richardcorbett.org.uk/theres-something-about-ukip.pdf
There you go. Of course, this won’t be forensic enough for you. Or something. Because your mind is made up. Like most lefties of the Old School, you are enraged by the left’s drift to the right, and the fact you can do nothing about it.
And you hate being outflanked on the left. And you have been.
Bye, Fred.
Clark @ 3:09- Yes Clark. Iamnotatechie should be my nym. I will attempt to follow your instruction.
Clark; I’ve been meaning to ask; Does your avatar have some significance for you? It looks like a coronal mass ejection, or Cameron’s profile. BUMP!
“There you go. Of course, this won’t be forensic enough for you. Or something. Because your mind is made up.”
Actually it isn’t. I asked because on Wikiquotes it is disputed. AFAICS there is no reliable evidence either way, he might have said it, he might not, who knows.
But please feel free to carry on believing it if it makes you happy.
Habbabkuk (La vita è bella!)
18 May, 2013 – 7:49 pm
“This thread has gone off-topic and degenerated into a slanging match centering on Nigel Farage/UKIP’s meeting in Scotland.”
I agree but up to now, and including now, you have made no contribution to the topic in question and Craig himself went off topic when answering Fred:
Craig
18 May, 2013 – 5:21 pm
Fred,
“Unfortunately you have overlooked the point – as have the media – that the group demonstrating are quite specifically opposed to the SNP. They view it as too conservative. You, like the media, substantially exaggerate the level of violence involved.”
I don’t think there is anything wrong with introducing an off topic subject provided it is not designed to disrupt the discussion of the original topic.
Anyway, what have you got to say about Alisher Usmanov?
It’s slightly off topic, but Farrage got what he wanted, and will be pleased at the success of his little publicity stunt. I’m fairly sure all right wing parties are run by the security services anyway, so I doubt Farrage was in any real danger. Anyway, it looked like a bit of old fashioned street abuse, which, frankly, we need more of. Violence, no, abuse, yes. These people are, in the main, scoundrels, and neoliberal hard-hats, and if they don’t like it, they can fuck off to a quieter gig in the city, the knobbers.
And breathe. Farrage really is an oily squid though isn’t he? If he had joined Nu Lab, of course, the media classes would just adore him.
Yeah, let’s not all look at UKIP’s actual policies. Bootcamps, anyone? Removal of workers’ protections? Massive extra spending on defence against whom because why not?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NCV2vmQT_4
Here is http://www.forbes.com/profile/alisher-usmanov/
Notice the hash (#) bollocks?
The ‘politics of envy’ needs a power league. Drug-like orgasmic pleasures with keeping score and advancing position. Of course a measure of success and status.
At what cost to mother Earth? The Casino capitalism model has infinite resources compounded by today’s desire to play ‘rob Peter to pay Paul’ or steal from the public to pay the plush.
This neo-liberal extravaganza keeps us arguing, quarreling and wrangling. Habba has attended…
While we cross swords the private finance initiative (PFI) steals our assets and services.
For your pleasure NIGEL ‘FROMAGE’ MELTS UNDER PRESSURE: UKIP? UFLOP.
http://scriptonitedaily.wordpress.com/?blogsub=confirming#subscribe-blog
Thanks Kerry-Anne we love you.
I like the Nigel Fromage handle Mark!
I also like Kerry Anne Mendoza. Here she is on the Limp Ics. She and 180 others were kettled and arrested for protesting on the opening day.
Double Standards
Olympic security contractor G4s tips off Wikileaks about extraordinary rendition. We ask US presidential contender Mitt Romney; why he is becoming a Nazi. We also talk to Kerry Anne Mendoza, spokesperson from “Our Olympics” a campaign group dedicated to highlighting the hijack of London 2012 by capitalist corporate interest, about why London 2012 Olympics is not our Olympics. These and much more are all reviewed in this edition of Double Standards with Afshin Rattansi.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpkJjSwK7wY 12 mins in.
Nigel Farage’s activity on Company Check. Details are on
http://companycheck.co.uk/director/904320201/MR-NIGEL-PAUL-FARAGE
UNITED KINGDOM INDEPENDENCE PARTY LIMITED Active 07/11/2011 –
THORN IN THE SIDE LIMITED Active 27/05/2011 –
FARAGE LIMITED Operating under Voluntary Arrangement 26/10/2004 06/02/2011
FARAGE LIMITED Operating under Voluntary Arrangement 06/02/2003 06/02/2006
HAWKHURST CONSULTANTS LIMITED Dissolved 21/05/1997 –
FARAGE FUTURES LIMITED Dissolved 25/02/1994 –
His father is Guy Justus Oscar Farage. He was a stockbroker and is now retired according to an Independent article.
http://companycheck.co.uk/director/914247547/MR-GUY-JUSTUS-OSCAR-FARAGE#anchor-current-OC335400
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-politicians-govern-through-fear-6297949.html
“Thanks Kerry-Anne we love you.”
I think all the interview shows is the disgusting pro Nationalist bias on the part of the BBC.
No, a bunch of thugs in Edinburgh do not decide what the people of Scotland want.
“There’s a problem for you though, isn’t there, because the Scottish electorate clearly doesn’t see you as being part of the political debate in Scotland. In effect, what the overwhelming message from yesterday’s event in Edinburgh seemed to be was that your political philosophy is an alien political philosophy here in Scotland.”
So the Nationalist thugs and state media are dictating what the people of Scotland want and what the people of Scotland can have when it comes to political parties.
All the events showed was that the Nationalists are scared of losing votes to the SNP.
That should of course be UKIP.
Still half asleep.
Ben, it might be the sun, but it could also be a fat dude in a nightclub.
I couldn’t decide whether the last one was a slug or a sniper’s rifle.
Fascinating info April Showers @6:11 am. Have you managed to uncover any Jewry in the bloodlines?
“RACIST SCUM!”, they chant, with not a black or brown face amongst them.
Priceless.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMZ55ZJHllQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player