The shocking death of Lee Rigby quite naturally appals us all. The intention of the crazed little group who conceived this killing was to make it as horrible as possible in order to scare people.
Horrible, sociopathic violence happens to people from time to time. They have done since Cain killed Abel, metaphorically or literally as you choose. Here is another headline today, just as horrific:
A British soldier has been jailed for stabbing a 10-year-old boy after getting drunk on vodka while serving in Afghanistan.
Both that obscene attack and Michael Adebolajo’s appalling actions are borne out of the same conflict. But it is reasonable to suppose that both these incidents involved people with, for whatever reason, a pre-disposition to murderous violence.
Such people have always been with us and will always be with us, but fortunately they are very, very few. In a nation of 60 million, involvement in violent crime is very low. If you are the victim of criminal violence, the odds over the last decade are about one in twenty thousand that the violence inflicted on you will have any linkage to political or terrorist causation. And the odds that you will suffer any kind of violent attack are thankfully pretty remote.
We should not panic from theatrical violence, just deplore and take sober stock. Sadly if a lunatic on the bus decides to strangle you tomorrow, there are no pre-emptive laws that can stop that. We should stop pretending that the state can always prevent.
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In this image the ‘police’ are attending to suspect no. 2 who appears to be concious and, having both legs and right arm raised, indicates that he was not paralysed after being ‘repeatedly shot’, so… what is that on the floor by his right foot and within easy grasping distance?
Another example of awful police tactics and training failures going remarkably unpunished, this officer has failed to disarm a murder suspect. What bollocks.
Why has his right hand been blurred on the subsequent pictures and why have the images been cropped at his right shoe – did he pick that knife up once the police started attending to him in order for it to be removed from the scene?
What other explanation could their possibly be for these images to censored in this way?
Fanning of the flames of hatred are going unabated. Evidently now, the “Muslim Scum” although jailed, and incarcerated, yet can get on with their “Extremism” from inside the jails too:
Whilst revealing even more spectacular and audacious plans have been afoot:
So there you have it, what kind of a fucking helicopter can take all those Muslims, the accomplices and the crew still managing to land inside the prison walls, is not clarified. Further, given the current Typhoon rash in the skies, how the said chopper could have made it to the said prison, or out of it, is not explored either. However the story sounds good enough, it has the three main elements; “Muslims scum”, “Tayyyyyrrrrrroorrists”, and air transport.
Further, just to drive the point home, The Sun then throws in at no extra cost; the story of the Pakistan Airways flight that was forced down with Typhoons to land in the Stansted airport;
This is additional proof about the dangers of the “Muslims” in skies, and shit!
Telegraph carries on feeding from the Sun;
The same story is carried by Daily Mail, that carries the image Lee Rigby in his dress uniform, as well as the Murderers brandishing their knives. Interesting comments following the story include;
Yorkshire Post carries the story:
Then feeding on the news paper reports as it indicates, goes on to implicate “ Muslim fanatic Parviz Khan” as the mastermind of this operation;
Take a note of the comments section, that is littered by the pearls of wisdom of one poster.
Hull Daily Mail carries:
Who has sent the email remains a mystery.
Not forgetting Mirror, that carries:
Curmudgeon would believe that, due to Osborn’s austerity measures, the defensive rearguard action of certain rouge elements within the secret empire (SIS) has been to unleash the current wave of mayhem, and Muslim bashing. The fact that almost all of the articles and or those talking heads on the telly (Anthony Glees; the current tension could give way to unrest!) somehow point to the funding of the SIS and their need for greater powers, seems to validate this line of thought. Simply put, the security industry is busy demarcating its turf, and warning the politicians to go find cuts in some other place, or else. As well as making clear their invaluable role in keeping all of us safe from those “crazed extremists”!
Finally, is it not surprising that other murdered soldier, have gone literally unnoticed in UK? “Cowardly and unprovoked attack” .
Then there is the murder of nineteen year old Andrew Gibson on his way to Afghanistan “pay back”.
oops, all the pics here. BTW I am not into the views of this site, just the pics are relevant.
http://nodisinfo.com/Home/the-scissors-moles-and-blood-drizzlers-of-woolwich/
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clearer view of the knife.
This pic has been blurred where his right thumb should be.
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‘Attorney General warns journalists against implying guilt of Woolwich terror suspects or revealing past wrongdoing’
http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/content/attorney-general-warns-journalists-against-implying-guilt-or-revealing-past-wrongdoing
Includes these two pieces
“The Attorney General has warned the media about the contempt of court risks after the murder of Drummer Lee Rigby in Woolwich next week [sic].”
and
“Solicitors Pannone have already discussed the contempt risk posed by mobile phone videos of the stabbings shown on ITN and Sky News.”
Could this “contempt risk” be the reason (or the so-called reason) why no further mobile phone vids have been uploaded? And no CCTV?
He may have been shot in the thumb (and you have to be especially squeamish to want that blurred) but that does not explain why they would then blur his entire arm out later?
“He may have been shot in the thumb”
Someone reported that he tried to fire the rusty gun and blew his own thumb off. I’ll try to find the source.
RSS Mary (prev page) – “.. I said that Australia is a racist country ..”
Well that doesn’t sound very much like a racist over-generalisation – accusing all the people of a nation of being “racist”. Does it now?
And it makes the following link somewhat curious –
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/05/15/a-fascinating-map-of-the-worlds-most-and-least-racially-tolerant-countries/
I have the benefit of reporting from first hand experience about community relations in Australia. RSS Mary, on the other hand, can offer nothing more than a monotonous ticker-tape of anti-Western propaganda. Where her visceral hatred comes from, I do not know. But it is tedious, overtly anti-J*wish, bereft of intelligent analysis and discussion, and unworthy of appearing on Craig Murray’s otherwise excellent blog.
Yes, I am the very same Jemand who links to webpages that discuss problems created by the trio of Abrahamic religions that have held much of the world in a totalitarian grip of primitive stupidity. Sue me.
One Human Being burns her Aboriginal papers –
http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/4281772.html
“The reaction to the Woolwich murder denies British Muslims a political voice”
‘Denying the right to discuss British foreign policy in the wake of the horrific murder in Woolwich is short-sighted and dangerous’
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/may/28/woolwich-murder-british-muslims
Not LOL but LIOFA Laughing In Our Faces, Again. 10 months ago he was on the other side of the table.
This was the headline piece in the copy of the Guardian I saw on a newsrack this morning.
Deloitte appoints official criticised over ‘sweetheart’ tax deals
Dave Hartnett has been hired by accountancy firm which faced tax avoidance allegations during his time as head of HMRC
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2013/may/27/deloitte-appoints-dave-hartnett-tax
Note Cameron approved.
Careful Jemand. Your (racial) prejudices are showing and have been shown throughout.
Could this “contempt risk” be the reason (or the so-called reason) why no further mobile phone vids have been uploaded? And no CCTV?
He’s warning journalists and media organisations. Joe Public can still upload on youtube without fear which makes it fishy that there are none that have since appeared after those first few.
Compare it to the Helicopter crash in London a while back (or any other well observed major incident), first day there was one video doing the rounds, then a couple of days later it was three or four. A week later there were over half a dozen.
The armed ‘police officers’ attending to the wounded suspects appear to be behaving more like professionally trained battle field medics rather than the poorly trained ‘police officers’ they are claimed to be (can’t even effectively disarm a murder suspect).
This is the first time I’ve seen a picture of the gun – and a reference here to the possibly blown-off thumb too. It’s beneath the Help for Heroes poster.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4940206/lee-rigby-feared-for-soldier-girlfriend-in-afghanistan-but-terrorists-hack-him-to-death-on-london-street.html
BBC news just confirmed the Osborne hair cut to “politically sensitive” departments, MOD, counter terrorism, ……..
I have not seen the gun before. It does the “now you see it, now you don’t” trick. You can clearly see that area of the pavement in other pics and videos but that picture is the only one where there is a gun at that spot.
If the gun was removed why was the knife not removed at the same time, which poses a greater threat to the officers?
In the Sun video @ 1:05 – the man in light blue jeans movement is suspicious, like he’s part of it and realises he is in the wrong spot or something. The officers have no problem with him approaching them and then walking past within touching distance of the weapons.
“The officers have no problem with him approaching them and then walking past within touching distance of the weapons.”
In fact it looks very much like the officer is giving him instructions, listen to the audio.
I won’t mention the fact that the video starts off with the user holding the camera back-to-front during the actual shots, so we never get to see that very important bit, oh well – someone else has bound to have got a clear shot, right? Well, no. Otherwise it would be on that page wouldn’t it, and we would have all seen it?
It was on the Chris Spivey blog, a comment there which stated with seeming certainty that The Bill was regularly filmed there, if this isn’t the case then so what?
I am in no doubt that this Woolwich incident was faked, the victim soldier died elsewhere either supporting the mercenary nutcases in Syria, or in nearby Cyprus in an accident, training incident, horseplay, fratricide or even self-inficted -suicide.
The alleged terrorists were singularly ineffective in terrorising anyone, the media and the government are about as terrifying as it is possible for anyone or anything to be, the BBC, Mail, Guardian etc are all about terrorising us into conformity and compliance. Those willing patsies were known to the security services who more often and typically facilitate terror events than thwart them, indeed the patsies are alleged above to have been actively trying to recruit others for the bloodbath in Syria which are a UK-US-IS driven genocidal crime of innocent Arab peoples. I have no time for any religion, Jews, Muslims, Christians etc., they are all poisonous doctrines for unhinged illogical fanaticists and fantasists, rejecting science, enlightenment and reason, for some concocted set of fairy tales, religious believers are dangerous, no more so than when politics fuses with religion such as in the case of Zionism which is unutterably evil.
I don’t believe a word our government and media tell us about anything, the safest surest starting position from which to discern truth is to reject everything you are told to think.
The circumstances of this incident in Woolwich and the ready formed agenda that followed it, far more readily support alternative hypotheses than that we have been uncritically given.
The details don’t matter it’s fake synthetic terror, for the Harry Potter generation.
The trolls infesting this blog are weak craven tools of the powerful, who’ll switch allegiance at the drop of a hat, they’ll chant the slogans of the mob, run with the mob when this Westminster mafia are brought to book and the tables turned.
Worth a read, although there are some basic errors, like the contention that two takes of the interview were made. The obvious explanation is that there are two cameras, which is confirmed by noting the slightly different angles.
http://www.chrisspivey.co.uk/?p=12025
Cryptonym: It is interesting (and ominous) that not one single explanation of what he was doing on the streets of Woolwich, in civies, while his regiment was in Cyprus has been offered. I would have thought this is a fundamental piece of the background story as if he was with his regiment he would still be alive (presumable).
The police officers attending the suspects, while showing signs of medical training, are tending to the injuries with un-gloved hands.
This not only represents a risk of infection to the suspects but also the ‘police officers’, who are handling scissors and should be taking precautions against contracting Hepatitis C and H.I.V. should they accidentally cut themselves. I appreciate though, with that big bloody knife by the suspects foot, such potentially life-saving precautions may seem futile.
“Britain’s key failing is that it has been tough where it should have been liberal, and liberal where it should have been tough. It has enacted sweeping, blanket measures such as extended detention without trial, mass stop-and-search and now, potentially, the snooper’s charter: measures that affect everyone and leave the entire Muslim community, most of which is completely blameless, feeling under attack.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/10080864/Woolwich-attack-Lone-wolves-who-run-with-the-pack.html
The Scourge expresses some scepticism on :
“There is a proposal to pump $4bn in to boost the Palestinian economy”
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Would The Scourge prefer that no money be pumped into the Palestinian economy?
If so, could he please explain his reasoning?
Thank you.
@Jesuit Atheist (2:27pm): Explanations for this have been given: that he was involved in recruitment, this is as unverifiable as any other explanation, given that the source of such information must necessarily come from the military or political hierarchy, who cannot be trusted not to lie through their teeth.
I cannot locate the specific ‘The Bill’ comment on the Spivey blog, if the comments there or even entire articles on this subject have not been removed or edited then it must have been one of three articles on the Guardian site, the Glenn Greenwald one, or some others I read there between the 22nd and the 26th May.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/may/25/andrew-sullivan-distortion-terrorism-woolwich
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/may/23/woolwich-attack-terrorism-blowback
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/may/23/woolwich-attack-british-foreign-policy-role
The ‘Bill’ claim, possibly the origin source is also made in comments here:
http://aangirfan.blogspot.co.uk/2013/05/woolwich-false-flag-inside-job-fake.html
http://aangirfan.blogspot.co.uk/2013/05/woolwich-false-flag-inside-job-fake.html?showComment=1369491635692#c3212669087228015671
@ Jesuit Atheist :
You have taken up a lot of bandwidth and readers’ time with your numerous posts on the Woolwich killing.
It appears that you are casting serious doubt on the official narrative (to the extent that there is one, so far).
Do you think you could draw the threads of your various posts together and tell us, in one comprehensive post of, let’s say, no more than one page, what really happened : how the event itself infolded, who was responsible and the political/security background which led up to it, including motive. A kind of definitive statement of your belief, so to speak. Start at (or before) the beginning, go through the middle and end at the end.
Thank you.
Habbabkuk @ 15:00
but I have this…
http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2013/05/the-sky-has-not-fallen/comment-page-3/#comment-410016
Why don’t you just get on your way eh? What do you keep coming back for?
Habbabkuk,
I have a suggestion for you. Seeing as you like to be told what to think why don’t you get in touch with anti-Arab propaganda producing MSM photo journalist for ‘The Sun’, Gavin Rodgers, and ask him? After all, he was there. If he says he wan’t then ask him why The Sun and ITN are crediting stills and videos of the event to him and his company.
https://twitter.com/asproid
Escalation. Perhaps this is Hague’s desired reaction.
28 May 2013 Last updated at 14:15
Russian arms ‘to deter foreign intervention in Syria’
Amid the diplomacy, opposition activists told the BBC they had documented the deaths of more than 200 people in a massacre earlier this month
Russia says it will go ahead with deliveries of S-300 anti-aircraft missiles to Syria, and that the arms will help deter foreign intervention.
Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov said the missiles were a “stabilising factor” that could dissuade “some hotheads” from entering the conflict.
/..
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-22688894#
Did you hear his lies yesterday which were parroted endlessly on the news channels? Was he including nuclear? He is not fit to be Foreign Secretary.
“We also have to think about what is happening to people in Syria, how long can we go on with people having every weapon that’s ever been devised dropped on them while most of the world denies them the means to defend themselves.”