The shocking death of Lee Rigby quite naturally appals us all. The intention of the crazed little group who conceived this killing was to make it as horrible as possible in order to scare people.
Horrible, sociopathic violence happens to people from time to time. They have done since Cain killed Abel, metaphorically or literally as you choose. Here is another headline today, just as horrific:
A British soldier has been jailed for stabbing a 10-year-old boy after getting drunk on vodka while serving in Afghanistan.
Both that obscene attack and Michael Adebolajo’s appalling actions are borne out of the same conflict. But it is reasonable to suppose that both these incidents involved people with, for whatever reason, a pre-disposition to murderous violence.
Such people have always been with us and will always be with us, but fortunately they are very, very few. In a nation of 60 million, involvement in violent crime is very low. If you are the victim of criminal violence, the odds over the last decade are about one in twenty thousand that the violence inflicted on you will have any linkage to political or terrorist causation. And the odds that you will suffer any kind of violent attack are thankfully pretty remote.
We should not panic from theatrical violence, just deplore and take sober stock. Sadly if a lunatic on the bus decides to strangle you tomorrow, there are no pre-emptive laws that can stop that. We should stop pretending that the state can always prevent.
Those among us who were panicking about running out of gas in March.
There never was a shortage.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2013/may/24/energy-suppliers-held-back-gas-uk
“I assume (I hope) you’re talking chickens or sheep?”
Sheep, goats, cattle, pigs…
I didn’t see any of the News on Wednesday evening. I only read second hand accounts very late. and thought wtf.
On Thursday morning, I saw what the media and politicians had done with it, and immediately felt so ill, that I literally threw up, something I haven’t done in years. Maybe the fish was a bit off, or maybe the guts of my soul had been hit by a massive psychological attack.
I then tried to make some sense of it all, and tried to analyse myself, as well as other people’s analyses of what actually happened. Yet still, I do not know, apart from what is undeniably true.
Whatever, the origins and causes of the event on Wednesday afternoon, the behaviour of the media and the politicians has been completely disgraceful. It was as if they were doing their utmost to incite racial violence on a mass scale.
My wife went swimming in the morning, and met an elderly lady, for the first time, who just wanted someone to talk to. She asked my wife to give her a hug, as if to reconfirm to herself, that there were still some normal human beings left.
This guy says it as well as anyone. I’ve come across him before. Very few people actually do this kind of thing. I can think of less than 10. He’s very good. A couple of years ago, when he started doing it, he worked out how to make himself from second hand odds and sods, a very cheap teleprompter. Some people don’t need them, but then when you find out their background, they have been a professional stand up comedian or whatever for years – and they can do it very effectively live and straight.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-OUbnFKyFM
Tony
April wrote:
“One aircraft to Oslo with 75 onboard returns to Heathrow with an engine fire and the cowling missing on the other. A bird strike we hear. It flew back to Heathrow from the Essex direction over London??? Can that be right?”
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No it was no bird strike. BA multiple cock-ups.
That BA Airbus spent 27 minutes in the air circling London. Arguments raging back and forward on pilot forums if that was correct thing to do in circumstances or if they should have gone down asap at Stansted rather than returning to Heathrow.
There are a lot of people on that plane very luck to be alive. Looks like a massive ground engineering failure AND pilot pre-flight check-list failure AND possible pilot error in responding to problem – all of which combined means they were very lucky to survive.
BA’s lawyers apparently on prowl. Probably why the news still mutters nonsense about bird strike.
Habbabkuk (La vita è bella!)
24 May, 2013 – 5:50 pm
“The Scourge ‘fesses up to Fedup “
Interesting use of N American slang
Suhayl.
I despair. Islam is full of politics. You sell your fellow Muslim who openly hates UK foreign policy to the UK state who you secretly hate also so that they will send you weapons in Syria. Thus the UK state gets rid of its public critics and also gets brownie points from Israel.
Nobody’s suggesting that there’s a televised room in the palace of Westminster where all this goes on publicly. The Muslim revert gets a gentle wind-up by the friendly imam and watches his Middle-Eastern satellite news from Muslim countries. Job done.
I don’t know why everyone in this country thinks that politics is about council offices and election days. In Islam it works like a hot air balloon. You introduce heat under the balloon and see where the wind of hatred takes you. It’s really no more than gambling. The skill is knowing where the major players are heading and riding the wind. Opportunism and analytical skill.
On an individual level Muslims are manipulated all the time by so-called leaders. You either like your ideological scrotum tickled and get involved or you walk away. You need a wife and a job, so you have to use the small village mentality of sucking up to the top guy. People in this country do not seem to understand the backwardness of Muslim culture.
I don’t suppose they are likely to be enlightened soon.
Fred,
That LBG story is bizarre. We knew it was there at the time. It wasn’t hidden – the totals were published daily. The LNG terminals were flowing when needed – again that data is available in real-time. Tankers were diverted to bring more in, the Langeled pipeline was fixed and the Bacton pipeline reversed before the situation went from scary to “that wasn’t supposed to happen”.
“That LBG story”
Erm LNG story!
Sorry, since I have been banned, its like posting from Nigeria – sorry I mean Ghana – or wherever Craig posts from when it is really slow…
I didn’t mean to post twice….
My first attempt was via an American Free Internet spoofer thing – I don’t like using such websites even though they are free…I am me. My IP Address and My Comments are accepted on many much more active websites than this – and occasionally I get sent to the naughty boy’s place – and get banned – but most of them – even The Independent – let me back in…The Telegraph – well they are Just So Tolerant…I know what I am like….
But they even let me post freely tonight – and didn’t delete a thing…
I am just me FFS.
I do not have any agenda or political allegiance – except to try and understand what the hell is going on before I die.
Sorry for being boring….
Maybe I was too fast – for you…
Craig Come On…9/11..You must by now know..Or are You Brainwashed Or are You Still Working For The Globalist Elite…
I Don’t Know..I am without Prejudice…
I don’t do it. I don’t get paid.
I take people as I find them…
No one has hit me since I was a Child, and I have never hit anyone since I was a Child. I was 14 – and he was my Best Mate – and I did it Publicly in Front of The Whole Class and The Teacher..I Never Even Got Told Off.
I sent him flying..They all looked at me.= in astonishment. Charley Doesn’t Do That. After they had patched him up…and he came back to class…everyone knew…He walks in, and my friend Stephen Briggs sits next to me. Everyone else shuffled up.
We were at the back of the Class.
Tony
Off topic, but not completely.
Just watched a movie called ‘Snitch’. It’s the story of an honest businessman whose son is entrapped by an old friend into accepting a mail shipment of Ecstasy. It was a set-up; the type of set-up staged by the Feds regularly. He is not a druggie, but he faces 10 years unless he agrees to frame another hapless US citizen. If he does like his ‘friend’ did and find some poor schmuck for the Feds to arrest, he gets a reduction in his sentence. The boy refuses to pass his friends baton onto someone else’s back, so his Dad agrees to do it. In this present day world, the lines between good and evil keep fading. It’s getting more difficult to distinguish the moral high ground from the depths of inequity for us all and the trust issues keep mounting. Who most benefits from a continually eroding state of mind between decent people everywhere?
Sorry, since I have been banned, its like posting from Nigeria – sorry I mean Ghana – or wherever Craig posts from when it is really slow…
I didn’t mean to post twice….
My first attempt was via an American Free Internet spoofer thing – I don’t like using such websites even though they are free…I am me. My IP Address and My Comments are accepted on many much more active websites than this – and occasionally I get sent to the naughty boy’s place – and get banned – but most of them – even The Independent – let me back in…The Telegraph – well they are Just So Tolerant…I know what I am like….
But they even let me post freely tonight – and didn’t delete a thing…
I am just me FFS.
I do not have any agenda or political allegiance – except to try and understand what the hell is going on before I die.
Sorry for being boring….
Maybe I was too fast – for you…
Craig Come On…9/11..You must by now know..Or are You Brainwashed Or are You Still Working For The Globalist Elite…
I Don’t Know..I am without Prejudice…
I don’t do it. I don’t get paid.
I take people as I find them…
No one has hit me since I was a Child, and I have never hit anyone since I was a Child. I was 14 – and he was my Best Mate – and I did it Publicly in Front of The Whole Class and The Teacher..I Never Even Got Told Off.
I sent him flying..They all looked at me.= in astonishment. Charley Doesn’t Do That. After they had patched him up…and he came back to class…everyone knew…He walks in, and my friend Stephen Briggs sits next to me. Everyone else shuffled up.
We were at the back of the Class.
2nd attempt
3rd attempt – I don’t know – it just comes back and says failed -but maybe my message spins round the world for 5 minutes – and eventually arrives…
Can’t you just delete your file – containing all theses Ip Addresses of Boring Bastards Like Me – who Don’t Necessarily Agree With You – But Mean You Know Harm – Just Think You are a Bit THICK
Sorry I forgot the number count thing then.
Hey you have got to have a sense of humour – amongst all this mania.
Tony
Komodo,
your contributions are lately somewhat disappointing for my taste. It is obvious that not every event is a false flag operation but it is stupid to believe the other extreme. Your statement “WW2 was started by George Formby on behalf of the Rothschilds” is so pathetic that I refrain from making any commnents. It may suprise you that WW2 was started off by a false flag operation whereby the Poles supposedly attacked and siezed the radio transmitter in Gliewitz to stage a one minute broadcast of some potpouri of anti-german propaganda. Shortly afterwards the one polish “soldier” still at the scene of crime was conveniently shot dead during the wehrmacht counteroffensive. You can read more about the story at http://desertwar.net/gleiwitz-incident.html. Although the entire incident appears as being conceived by some polish imbeciles you will still find many nazi websites claiming that it was actually real and not a false flag operation.
John Goss is right by pointing to the Lendmans article . Try to refresh you mind by reading part one found at http://eyreinternational.wordpress.com/2013/05/
“I know the busker who watched it all. He said they put chalk marks on the ground where the terrorists involved had to stand.”
“In fact, the skipper said ‘it didn’t happen.’ He told me he didn’t recognise any of the officers on his own patch at the scene nor any of the members of the public, despite always seeing the same people.”
http://aangirfan.blogspot.co.uk/2013/05/woolwich-false-flag-inside-job-fake.html
The current wave of hatred against Islam expressed through a torrent of constant references to the “Islamic Extremism/Terrorism” are reliant on the correct decoding of the cryptoracist messages by its recipients. The hate fest dressed as the reportage of the events, has been almost comical in the tragic unfolding of events.
The vox pop on the BBC news has yielded a white, blonde, blue eyed, mature lady to go on about; how she feels a second class citizen, and how immigration has changed the face of Woolwich. Then a young lady getting interviewed by the same reporter shyly looks into camera and says; you won’t show what I really think! Upon insistence of the reporter, she then relaxes and blurts out; “send them back to where they came from”.
The conflation of the crusade on Islam and racism resulting in the pretty successful results of the program, has been the underlying theme of the fight against “Islamic Terrorists”. However this program somehow has not taken into account and remained blind to the problems that those born and bred here in UK. As is the case with Michael Adebolajo:
Also Michael Adebowale, a 22-year-old British citizen of Nigerian descent, who himself was subject of a frenzied knife attack in 2008 by the crack addict Lee James who hacked Faridon Alizada to piecesFaridon Alizada to pieces during the same attack.
Therefore to find the label of “Islamic Terrorists” so freely applied to these individuals, is in effect discounting their British origins. This further highlights the fact that despite these individuals being born and brought up in UK, as yet they are considered to be outsiders, and immigrants. This begging the question, just how many generations need to be born in UK before the label “English” is applicable to the individuals concerned?
To further highlight the infantile, simplistic attitude so engrained in UK institutions, as demonstrated in Newsnight, Kirsty Wark asking Anjem Choudary; “why don’t you go back?” The only trouble being; Anjem Choudary is a born and bred Brit. Fact is, did the great aunties researchers fail to discover the little point about Anjem Choudary being a Brit? Or Kirsty Wark in her excitement forgot the little fact about Anjem Choudary being a Brit by birth?
Notwithstanding the above, by now the producers and choreographers of the “War on Terror” game take it for granted that; the “news” consumers are pretty well conditioned to receive and consume the “ news” in its cryptoracist context. Hence the almost blatant and not so subtle incitement to hatred that is becoming an acceptable transaction.
The sad fact that since the last Wednesday’s Woolwich incident, there have been more than 148 racially aggravated attacks on Muslims (unofficial figures from Tell Mama) reported. Fact that most of these disaffected British citizens are finding their isolation and disenfranchisement to be so intolerably routine that the only way of recourse is violence, cannot in any way be so simplistically blamed on “Islamic Terrorists” paving the way for greater powers of surveillance and repression.
The constant fanning of the flames of hatred are now complemented with the planned march of EDL on Saturday through Newcastle, on Monday the same bunch of racists will be marching on Downing Street. Whilst BNP are planning a March for 1st June in Woolwich. Mission accomplished then.
Hasn’t anyone come up with a: Jewish/MI5/CIA set up theory behind the Woolwich attacks yet? Keep up lads.
Sensible meanings Suhayl – your posts made the last show of hands endurable.
What kind of a fucked up, stupid assertions is that?
During the video rant, attacker #1 refers to women and children being killed in ‘our lands’, i.e. Moslem countries. Later on when he’s attacking Dave Cameron he says that ‘we should get our troops out of Afghanistan’. Totally unconvincing, he can’t even make up his mind if he in his own land or not.
Habbabkuk (La vita è bella!)
24 May, 2013 – 9:58 pm
“PS – still waiting for your thoughts on what those “reasons” and “main reasons” might have been.”
What I said, as you know is:
“There are no excuses for what happened in Woolwich but, if you think carefully, there are reasons and one of the main reasons is British foreign policy.”
What is it that you can’t understand about that sentence?
By the way, I notice that you have recently been using the terms pn and pne. I confess that I don’t know what they mean perhaps you could enlighten me?
Fedup @ 11:14
A pandemic of ignorant flailing often attends. We regularly fail to recognize Sikhs for their ideology apart from the turban, which makes a convenient target for retribution and blood revenge.
“Hasn’t anyone come up with a: Jewish/MI5/CIA set up theory behind the Woolwich attacks yet?”
Haven’t you been watching the news? MI5 are helping the police with their enquiries.
Thanks, Mark.
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“The sad fact that since the last Wednesday’s Woolwich incident, there have been more than 148 racially aggravated attacks on Muslims (unofficial figures from Tell Mama) reported. Fact that most of these disaffected British citizens are finding their isolation and disenfranchisement to be so intolerably routine that the only way of recourse is violence, cannot in any way be so simplistically blamed on “Islamic Terrorists” paving the way for greater powers of surveillance and repression.
The constant fanning of the flames of hatred are now complemented with the planned march of EDL on Saturday through Newcastle, on Monday the same bunch of racists will be marching on Downing Street. Whilst BNP are planning a March for 1st June in Woolwich. Mission accomplished then.” FedUp
Yes, I agree with all that. As usual, the Far Right of all types plays a key useful role in divide-and-rule.
Hello Eminences.
I’ve just got in after spending a wet hour dangling my legs over the bank with Garry, watching the roaring water getting swallowed by the lazy swirls of the weir-pool and listening to Gary telling me I’m a big idiot for letting RD get under my skin.
He said once he had refused to answer my question three times I should have realised that simplifying it wouldn’t evoke an answer. There are some places trolls fear to tread.
He took me home for a hot mug of cocoa and his mum said maybe the flat refusal of all the establishment trolls to answer my question WAS the answer. I’ll have to sleep on that one.
Anyway I just checked out the CM blog and I see that April is being upset by Dad again. It’s so embarrassing and I do wish I could make him half decent but I think it’s his vocation to produce triple-distilled nastiness. I got really cross with him before about it, then I realised that’s what gives him pleasure. He really needs help, but as the saying goes, “You can lead a horse to water………”
Maybe April you should feel proud to be singled out. I think it shows that you look under stones the Empire decrees should be left alone and I for one welcome your broad river of information. How do you do it?
Gary’s mum told me next time I was going to explode I should watch an old fossil called Dudley Moore playing Beethoven’s “Colonel Bogey” Sonata.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0l3hq4G1iHs
Wow! Was she right! How can you hang on to anger in the face of something like that?
Goodnight all.
It wasn’t about a girl, he was just being a complete arsehole and seriously annoying everyone in the class…We were sat on benches at the time in the gym..so I guess that made it slightly more acceptable than doing it during a history, music or English lesson..
We certainly wouldn’t have done it in the Science Class….
Though a few times I was very naughty…including…just leaving it bubbling away at the back…
It was just Nitrous Oxide – Like The Dentist sometimes uses – Laughing Gas.
We Got a Fantastic Education at a Secondary Modern in Royton, Oldham
The Entire Idea Was To Prove That We Can Beat The Grammar Schools and Be Normal With Girls in Our Class..Just Like at Primary School.
Thy sent me to a Priest’s Training College – In Upholland Actually Where It is Rumoured Catherine Ashton Comes From..though I can find no evidence in Upholland to substantiate this allegation…They all say – No Not One Of Ours…Our Girls Look Like Your Wife…who incidentally is almost exactly the same age…and Grew Up On The Biggest (Repossessed Farm In The Area)
Her Mum and Her Grandmother Know Everyone in The Area West of Wigan.
It’s Very Fertile Land.
The EU Foreign Minister – Complete Unknown.
I Find That a Little Strange.
Who Exactly Is Baroness Upholland?
Tony
Jesuit Atheist
24 May, 2013 – 11:24 pm
“During the video rant, attacker #1 refers to women and children being killed in ‘our lands’, i.e. Moslem countries. Later on when he’s attacking Dave Cameron he says that ‘we should get our troops out of Afghanistan’. Totally unconvincing, he can’t even make up his mind if he in his own land or not.”
Thank you JA for a completely illogical rant of your own.
Guano,
Great Post…My Lad same culture as me, though my wife and I didn’t program him with any religion…
He too went to a normal school with boys and girls…They both got top marks in Their Religious Education exams – but both thought – yeh sure…what a load of old bollocks…
So he doesn’t get educated with what he has been doing since the age of 13…And eventually he gets invited into the real depths…
And he doesn’t know what to expect – its just that they pay all his expenses…
So he arrives there..Fixes the problem he was asked to come for in less than 20 minutes, and says – I could have fixed that from my Bedroom…
Then he gets taken into this Management Meeting – with all The Top Princes – and With Live Translation…
My Son – who is only just 25, He Gives Them a Full Professional Management Presentation (without Preperation – he was also jet lagged) About What Their Problems are – and How To Resolve Them…
They Immediately Offer Him a Job – and He Asks How Much….
Before He Flies Home – he asks the Guy who Invited Him..Well How Exactly Do You Meet a Girl???
He replies – well its a Family Thing. No I am Divorced – But You Are Only The Same Age as Me.
Weird
He is Currently Travelling Round The Rest Of The World.
The Last message we Got Was…
“Good Morning Vietnam”
I Thought – Well Yes He Does Like – Mash
His Girlfriend, who I have never actually met …I reckon by now – she really like him…You can tell in the pictures.
Tony
I will Try again as it seems that one is not going anywhere…
Guano,
Great Post…My Lad same culture as me, though my wife and I didn’t program him with any religion…
He too went to a normal school with boys and girls…They both got top marks in Their Religious Education exams – but both thought – yeh sure…what a load of old bollocks…
So he doesn’t get educated with what he has been doing since the age of 13…And eventually he gets invited into the real depths…
And he doesn’t know what to expect – its just that they pay all his expenses…
So he arrives there..Fixes the problem he was asked to come for in less than 20 minutes, and says – I could have fixed that from my Bedroom…
Then he gets taken into this Management Meeting – with all The Top Princes – and With Live Translation…
My Son – who is only just 25, He Gives Them a Full Professional Management Presentation (without Preperation – he was also jet lagged) About What Their Problems are – and How To Resolve Them…
They Immediately Offer Him a Job – and He Asks How Much….
Before He Flies Home – he asks the Guy who Invited Him..Well How Exactly Do You Meet a Girl???
He replies – well its a Family Thing. No I am Divorced – But You Are Only The Same Age as Me.
Weird
He is Currently Travelling Round The Rest Of The World.
The Last message we Got Was…
“Good Morning Vietnam”
I Thought – Well Yes He Does Like – Mash ed Potato
His Girlfriend, who I have never actually met (she has only been back to our home once – and I was not introduced – though my wife thought well she has her get her head screwed on – she will look after him …I reckon by now – she really likes him…We can tell by the photographs…
What a Beautiful Girl.
She has No Fear Either.
Tony
Tony; Are you using an anonymizer? TOR?
You can’t see the double-post until ?
BTW; Cheers.
History and Labels Fedup. One can be rewritten the other torn off. Guano was right when he wrote, ‘If you want to change the world you have to win others over to your opinion or join the umbrella of others.’
That connection is long overdue. Glance at Iraq today. Behold! the pain, the sorrow, the disease, the stench of death everywhere.
We did that. Then and now. With lies and deception. It was the intention of those elected to represent us. Be they our proxy and accountable.
Then what is the mystery, what is the reason behind our lack of empathy.
The arrival of two million letters/emails to Parliament requesting those responsible for the Iraq massacre are brought to book would signal intention.
A tweet/letter takes 2 minutes of time to write and address. The scales tip around a few thousand tweets before the connection/join goes viral. Tweets beget tweets.
Two million minds and more will be focused on the accused, the indicted. The court proceedings will be televised by demand.
Next time you see the gentle smile, the reaching hands, the bubbling mouth, the ring a ring o’roses,- think of Iraq and her cherubs. Think of that Tweet/letter/email.
My Son and his current Girlfriend – aren’t trying to Sell Anything – and they are making lots of Friends on The Way….Only when they asked,do they say, and only after asking the Question…Where Do You Come From???? Guess where we come From???
“Well You Ain’t Scottish and You Definitely are Not American”…
His Girlfriend Gives it All Away – I am Reliably Informed She Can Talk Posh.
My Son Never Tries To Fake It
He is Just The Best…
ENGLISH
Tony