I am deeply concerned about pre-emptive policing, or arresting people who might be going to do something wrong. I frankly don’t believe the BBC’s claim that intelligence indicated that anti-G8 protestors in Soho had weapons, or at any rate I do not believe it was honest intelligence. I note there are no reports of these weapons actually having been discovered.
The rounding up, arresting and beating of groups of protestors before they had even begun to protest is so taken for granted in London now that I can find no reflection in the media of the outrage I feel. If an old duffer like me feels completely alienated from the authoritarian state in which I find I now live, how do younger, more radical people feel? There seems a terrible divide between the corporate-political elite surrounded by their massive Praetorian guard at Bilderberg, and everybody else. Society is not stable.
The BBC has lost all sense of self-knowledge. Yesterday it displayed scenes of police beating protestors for no apparent reason on the streets of London, which was presented as protecting innocent shoppers on Oxford Street. This immediately followed very similar scenes of police beating protestors on the streets of Istanbul, which was portrayed as a terrible act of anti-Western suppression. Irony is dead.
Right,fuck it.
Thats me deleted my Google and Youtube account.
Gonna be a pain but my 12 year Yahoo mail account going next.
Then Windows Vista,Chrome and Google search engine for the chop after that.
Sick of these nosey bastards.Its now abundantly clear the whole paradigm of these corporations is basically a monstrous blackmail machine.
Anyone recommend a good browser and OS that takes client privacy seriously?
Thanks in advance.
Further to the link to the new Medialens alert above, here are some responses to it including one from Jonathan Marcus of the BBC about his reporting of Syria and in particular on the use of sarin.
http://members5.boardhost.com/medialens/thread/1371138800.html
Peter Lilley… blond, seraphic face, diamond-hard eyes. Was he bullied at public (i.e. private) school by the Malcolm McDowall character in ‘If’? Was he the one who got into the that drawer and willing presented himself for a whipping? Does he need to imgest some microdot?
@Jives – you can party like its 1999 using TOR browser if you like
Or better still read up on some digital forensics here > http://www.forensicfocus.com and even ask the experts there.
For true anonymous browsing – free of artifacts you need TOR on Linux thats run on a laptop with no harddrive or a writeblocker – from a disk or memory stick so that nothing can be written or any evidence is left.
For basic anti-forensics you can start with tor and use ccleaner.
Exexpat,
Thanks very much for that,I’ll look into it.
Tor is a US Navy project, and will harvest passwords, accounts, and patterns.
The securofucks are busy selling snake oil, most ISP s are reporting dutifully as well as the NSA giant taps on backbones which are syphoning off data.
However choice of Linux as the primary operating system reduces the systemic back doors built into the other propriety systems. Although, with the advent of the cloud the data is yet again at the disposal of those who own the server farms.
June, Passerby – in longer version of video the man makes the same comments, the police were reminding each other, as they were mashing his face into the ground, that the media were watching.
Otherwise:
Occupy Gezi
Today PM Erdoğan addressed to the mothers of the protestors and said “call them back to your houses for their own safety”. Mothers answered. They showed up at Taksim Square. Formed a human chain between the police and the protestors. In front of Gezi Park. This is the real “tear” gas.
full G8 interview here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTKlTgMBjJM&feature=youtu.be
Good one, technicolour. When one talks about the impact media distortion has, here is another example. Perception of the UK public of numbers of Iraqi deaths from the war in Iraq.
“According to 59% of the respondents, fewer than 10,000 Iraqis died as a result of the war.”
Shocking, and almost unbelievable. But there you go.
http://www.spinwatch.org/index.php/component/k2/item/5499-poll-shows-that-uk-public-drastically-underestimates-iraqi-war-deaths
Has this been mentioned Suhayl?
From Lilley’s TheyWorkForYou
I am British Co-Chairman of the Uzbek British Trade and Industry Council (UBTIC) from 17 July 2012. (Registered 11 October 2012)
I see he is pushing for fracking too.
http://www.spectator.co.uk/features/8905731/the-only-way-is-shale/
Fedup wrote “Tor is a US Navy project, and will harvest passwords, accounts, and patterns.”
Citation?
This is the fucking limit, when a “punter” calls the police to complain about a prostitute he has hired. He dials 999 and complains that the prostitute is in breach of Sales of Goods Act through misrepresentation, because “she is too ugly”.
How far down the shitter has the society gone, that a moron verily believes as a consumer of the sexual services, and because he pays, he ought to be protected by the law of the land. Is this tweet a bankster, a city worker, or a minister?
she thinks I owe her a living or something
This is wrong in so many levels.
Do your home work, and search mate!
US Navy patents Anonymous Surfing
anonymity network
Way to go cowboy, why don’t you just CC all your internet activities to US state department, and US Navy and cut the fucking middleman out?
Citation that you are not a shill.
Flaming June, wrt Lilley and the Uzbek British Trade and Industry Council, how very interesting. Someone else mentioned the British Uzbek Something-or-other on a previous thread. Might we discover one or other ‘ex’-SIS officer also on it? Let’s search around and see…
Hey, Fedup, here’s the Tor source code. Show me the back door.
https://www.torproject.org/projects/torbrowser-details.html.en#build
What backdoor?
And then some.
How many IDs will be shilling on this issue?
Of course they test countermeasures, they test everything they can. And of course they find out that Tor’s not a black hole, and with money to burn you can squeeze a few bits of entropy out of a Tor network. This proves what?
Tor is a tool like Freenet is a tool, like PGP is a tool, like waste is a tool, like activix is a tool like cryptocat &c., &c., &c. are tools for particular purposes. Your hopeless despondent paranoia is actually more suspicious than my guarded reliance on varying combinations of these tools. So don’t go calling me a shill.
the new IP6 infrastructure makes tracing *any* source traffic a piece of cake, rather than a PITA if people take basic precautions. It all happens at the routers, many of the major hubs are now interconnected on a ‘back-plane’, the network we see is a kind of ‘front-end’ for the users – approximate 25% of all infrastructure is carrying network ‘meta-data’ – internet anonymity is and always has been a complete myth perpetuated for obvious intelligence gathering reasons.
Bet George didn’t phone the police….
http://ianbone.wordpress.com/2011/09/12/sex-worker-tells-all-on-george-osborne-and-cocaine/
“Louise”, eh? Mensch?
Think you’ll find plenty to entertain you in the UBTIC, Suhayl. The Azerbaijan equivalent is also interesting.
R4 Today, this morning…as Obama decides he can’t hold off the rightwing crazies any more and has to send arms to AQ in Syria…US policy spokesman managed (in giving a mention to the I-word) to confuse the Golan Heights and Gaza before announcing: “This is a proxy war. We know how to do proxy wars.” How true. And so does Russia. Expect Hague to rattle his limp dick before the day is out. And noisy skies over East Anglia as our ‘defence’ budget is exhausted in America’s, er, defence.
Join the IDF and see…..
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/06/12/semi-nude-female-israeli-soldiers-filmed-pole-dancing-rifle-video_n_3426530.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular
Off topic again. Sorry.
One of the Taksim protesters has a job waiting for him – drone pilot. The police shoot it down eventually, but the footage, given the limitations of these things, is pretty damn good:
http://vimeo.com/68229603
Not much in the mainstream about this survey, conducted last month by NATO. Perhaps someone should have told the Drone King before he decided to arm the Syrian “uprising” which, as NATO knows full well, is anything but widespread. This is the attempted removal (yet again!) of a regime we don’t like. It’s as simple as that, thought our state broadcaster will never say as much.
http://www.worldtribune.com/2013/05/31/nato-data-assad-winning-the-war-for-syrians-hearts-and-minds/
As far as can be told at the moment, Uncle Sam’s representative will be meeting a representative of the nice rebels, in Turkey, to establish where the nice rebels would like their weapons sent. This is good, because nice rebels can be trusted utterly to ensure that the nasty rebels don’t get the arms, just like the nasty rebels have never managed to get their hands on secondhand Syrian regime kit after killing its owners. And obviously nice rebels never have to join forces with nasty rebels, and nasty rebels can always be clearly identified because they wear headbands saying “nasty” at all times.
That’s if Uncle Sam’s representative can find Turkey.
Interesting article in Counterpunch, arguing that the Syrian govt has been the West’s best protection against Islamist terrsts, and that fall of Assad will likely lead to more terrst booms in Europe.
Any such booms will of course mean that we run to our leaders demanding ever more draconian protection, shedding the last of our civil liberties in the process.
Cute, eh.
http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/06/11/will-the-west-pay-a-high-price-for-targeting-syrian-regime/
LOL at Komodo at 10:18 am
And here’s an odd one
‘The UK government has urged airlines worldwide not to allow ex-CIA employee Edward Snowden, who leaked details of a secret US internet surveillance programme, to board flights to Britain.’
http://news.sky.com/story/1103567/nsa-whistleblower-snowden-not-welcome-in-uk
Do they seriously think he wants to visit Assange for coffee?
Hmmm…wonder if that might be because he has as yet unreleased material pertinent to the Special Relationship ™*? It can’t be because the US would have any difficulty in extraditing him.
* Kinda like Special Brew, but distorts reality even more.
Apologies if this has been posted before (and with the usual caveats about Avaaz, worth signing notwithstanding). It condemns the PRISM project, but importantly strongly supports Snowden at a time when the media have not (yet) massively swung in favour of the US government:
https://secure.avaaz.org/en/stop_prism_global/
Currently 0.8M signatures.
KingofWelshNoir
12 Jun, 2013 – 9:48 am
Very true:
Then (1984) such activity by the police was illegal but Thatcher’s government and other state players (MI5, police, military and the judiciary) played along.
All this should be subject to a public inquiry but don’t hold your breath.
However, pre-emptive arrest these days is viewed as legal.
“According to the high court you no longer need to break the law to be arrested.”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jul/19/arrest-without-crime-royal-wedding
I think the British Govt doesn’t want any unlikely appearance of Snowden on their doorstep because of the huge backlash that they would receive for extraditing him to the US. The damage has already been done to the US with the PRISM leak and the UK knows that prosecuting Snowden offers no benefits. There might even be some internal conflict within the political establishment over this matter.