What we are seeing in Egypt is counter-revolution pure and simple, military hardliners who are going to be friendly with Israel and the US, and are committing gross human rights abuse.
Western backed counter-revolution is going to be sweeping back across the Middle East; do not be distracted by the words of the West, watch the deeds. It will of course be in the name of secularism. There is an important correlation between what is happening in Turkey and Egypt. I made myself unpopular when I pointed out what the media did not tell you, that behind the tiny minority of doe-eyed greens in the vanguard of the Istanbul movement, stood the massed phalanxes of kemalist nationalism, a very ugly beast. “Secularism” was the cry there too.
At Salon
“Why did you shoot me? I was reading a book”: The new warrior cop is out of control
‘SWAT teams raiding poker games and trying to stop underage drinking? Overwhelming paramilitary force is on the rise’
http://www.salon.com/2013/07/07/%E2%80%9Cwhy_did_you_shoot_me_i_was_reading_a_book_the_new_warrior_cop_is_out_of_control/
Good analysis of how Egypt got to this point:
http://socialistworker.org/2013/06/27/revolution-and-counterrevolution-in-egypt
[Mod/Jon, thanks for the moderation report, done]
Escalation. 35 killed this morning in an attack by the military when the Muslim Brotherhood stormed a building where they believe Morsi is being held.
http://news.sky.com/story/1112787/egypt-morsi-supporters-shot-dead-at-barracks
@Suhayl Saadi “You’d like the CIA and the Mafia to be in control of a country.” Ideally countries should be in control of democrats who are not fascists, communists, Islamists, racists or any other groups likely to turn into persecutors and oppressors. Hence the permissibility in theory of the Kissinger principle, though it might often not be a good idea in practice. As for the Mafia, I wish that gangsters may repent of their sins and become useless as criminals.
“What, you mean death squads..?”
I disapprove of such methods, and I am glad that I don’t have to authorise assassinations. On the other hand, I don’t mourn for Bin Laden or Awalaki, nor will I mourn if I hear of Zawahiri’s demise.
@Chris “Maybe its time for you to start making full use of all your faculties.”
I do. When I hear someone is being called a self loathing Jew for opposing Zionism I speak out and when I hear someone being called a self loathing Scot for opposing Nationalism I do the same. It is wrong, no amount of Nationalist propaganda or attempts to demonise the victim can make it right.
At least 53 pro-Morsi protesters killed in Cairo
Meanwhile, news is emerging of two soldiers “arrested” and held by the Muslim Brotherhood supporters.
This is hitting up, and there is an escalation by the Muslim Brotherhood calling on all their supporters to rise-up.
I put this (first one) on the previous thread by mistake
“The pilots of a passenger jet which crashed in the United States tried to abort their landing as stall warnings filled the cockpit moments before impact, according to safety officials.
“Two people died and 182 were injured when the Asiana Airlines Boeing 777 crashed late on Saturday at the San Francisco International Airport. The plane was carrying 307 people.
“Asiana said on Monday that the pilot was “in training” and that it was his first flight into the city at the controls of a 777.”
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/americas/2013/07/201376191550136917.html
Also, video has emerged of the moment of impact
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBi8zR44OsU
and yes, there is another plane virtually alongside, taking off
And this from Ch 4 News
“although he did not comment on reports that one of the Chinese teenagers who died may have been run over by an emergency vehicle.
“According to the city’s fire department, “one of the deceased did have injuries consistent with having been run over by a vehicle”.”
http://www.channel4.com/news/san-francisco-plane-crash-pilot-training
Christ
She’s in charge.
Theresa May to ban two extremist groups
UK-based Minbar Ansar Deen and Nigeria-based Boko Haram are to be proscribed in the UK under terrorism laws
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/jul/08/theresa-may-to-ben-extremist-groups
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As Abu Qatada leaves, Theresa May vows to change human rights law
‘Wholesale changes’ to human rights legislation promised after lengthy legal battle that cost taxpayer £1.7m
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/07/abu-qatada-human-rights
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The Jillings Report into child abuse at North Wales children’s homes is finally released but it has been heavily redacted.
‘An inquiry by John Jillings was carried out in 1996 but shelved due to fears there would be compensation claims.
The report was finally published following an FoI request by the BBC.
The 300-page report was initially written in 1996 after it was commissioned by the former Clwyd County Council, which covered the areas now represented by Flintshire, Denbighshire and Wrexham councils.
PDF download Jillings Report Part One[17MB]
PDF download Jillings Report Part Two[14 MB]
It had followed North Wales Police’s investigation into abuse claims in 1991 and the conviction of seven former care workers.
But as more claims of widespread abuse in almost 40 homes emerged, the former Clwyd County Council commissioned Mr Jillings in March 1994 to investigate.
However, it was never published.’
Jillings report: ‘Extensive’ abuse at children’s homes
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-23199905
There is this ominous line in the summary of the Jillings Report findings.
’12 children had died.’
The Lord is my Shepherd, I shall not want, etc.
However. Not if you are Palestinian with a few sheep grazing on the hills of East Jerusalem.
http://www.ochaopt.org/documents/ocha_opt_communities_jerusalem_factsheet_june_2013_english.pdf
Communities in the Jerusalem periphery at risk of forcible transfer | June 2013
Small herding communities in the hills to the east of Jerusalem are at risk of forcible transfer due to a “relocation” plan advanced by the Israeli authorities.
Search and arrest. Home demolitions. Displacement of Palestinians. Olive trees uprooted. Gaza fuel shortages. Delays at checkpoints.
The lists of daily atrocities are endlessly logged by the Orwellian named Office for the Coordination for Humanitarian Affairs, Occupied Palestinian Territories/
210 pages going back to 2005.
http://www.ochaopt.org/generalreports.aspx?id=97&page=1
“Theresa May to ban two extremist groups
UK-based Minbar Ansar Deen and Nigeria-based Boko Haram are to be proscribed in the UK under terrorism laws”
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Presumably the Home Secretary is acting within the law and in acccordance with the powers given to her. Perhaps the poster is only giving us this for information (I had already heard it, thank you)but if not, what is the precise objection to her proposal?
“As Abu Qatada leaves, Theresa May vows to change human rights law
‘Wholesale changes’ to human rights legislation promised after lengthy legal battle that cost taxpayer £1.7m”
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The point should perhaps be made that this affairs cost the taxpayer so much precisely because of all the appeal possibilities Mr Qatada was able to benefit from, in accordance with the law and due process.
As to the promised “wholesale changes” to human rights legislation, perhaps commenters should wait to see which changes are proposed before condemning them sight unseen?
@ Mod/Jon (re my post at 08h31)
Glad to have been of help and thank you for your prompt action.
As I fully understand that you cannot be expected to be on the job 24/24 (the offending post was posted at 3 o’clock in the morning) and that certain posts might slip past you I propose, within my limited possibilities, to continue to help you in your task of ‘cleaning up’ and sharpening this blog by drawing your attention to egregious examples of offensive language and outright trivia (since I understand that the latter appear to have no place here either – cf. your post to me at 23h13 on 7 July).
“I disapprove of such methods, and I am glad that I don’t have to authorise assassinations. On the other hand, I don’t mourn for Bin Laden or Awalaki, nor will I mourn if I hear of Zawahiri’s demise.” Abe Rene.
The discussion was about Kissinger and also about Cuba. The death squads to which I am referring vis a vis Kissinger were those in ‘Latin’ America, run by the CIA, which routinely targeted and murdered innocent civilians, including health care workers, nuns, children, as well as anyone suspected of any kind of trade union or political activity opposed to their fascist agenda. To conflate these people with say, Osama Bin Laden is preposterous nd inhuman. One might refer to multiple countries in South and Central America over a period of many decades, but especially Guatemala, Chile, Brazil and Nicaragua.
Wrt carpet bombing and Kissinger, the references would be to North Vietnam and Cambodia, and the mmass murder of many thousands of civilians, plus the destabilsations of Cambodia with further Killng Field consequences.
I’m glad, though, that you disapprove of such methods. But if the Bay of Pigs had been successful – something you suggested you would have liked to have seen happen – we would have seen exactly those methods used on the civilian population of Cuba.
Trouble is she has been in contraventions of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights up until now, from now she can make legal the illegal and get on with contravening the UDHR legally!
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Even nomads are not safe from the marauding hoards of the land stealing ziofuckwits.
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Funny how the “insurance” companies still dictate on how these “reports” should be presented! (shades of Jimmy the kiddie fiddler Savile coverup?).
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Seems the US firefighters are being trained by the same outfit that trains their Police officers!
The chaff surrounding this crash includes a great deal of efforts directed at deflecting any blame from the aircraft! This coming on the heels of other malfunctions of the various aircraft manufactured by Boeing could have some bearing on the rapid fire theories of the causes for the crash that are emerging.
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Who are the nitwits in Cornwall who re-elected this councillor, possessor of the milk of human kindness? Not.
Cornwall disabled row councillor Collin Brewer censured
A councillor has been censured for his “grossly offensive” comments that disabled children should be “put down” and banned from council premises where services for the disabled are provided.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-23229088
One for Blair watchers:
“Tony Blair hired ex Israeli army intelligence officer despite envoy role”
“Tony Blair has hired a former Israeli army intelligence officer to work in his private office, despite his role as Middle East peace envoy.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/tony-blair/10164523/Tony-Blair-hired-ex-Israeli-army-intelligence-officer-despite-envoy-role.html
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Galling Doug. And to think we idiot British taxpayers are paying £hundreds of thousands for his ‘security’.
Even the Mail sees through Cameron.
The photo opportunity Cameron couldn’t wait for: PM rubs hands with glee as comes out to greet champion Andy Murray at No 10
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2358352/Andy-Murray-smartens-join-PM-Downing-Street-photo-opportunity-Cameron-keen-up.html
This chap needs his legs to be broken and then to be told; he ought to be put down!
This kind of a wanker really boils my blood, the tosser probably could not hold onto his piss if he were to come across a couple of the lads in an dark allay; asking him for a light. Yet he has the temerity to advocate execution of the disabled and infirm. For the record, disabled children ought to be cherished as much as the able bodied children, for any child is a gift and any gift ought to be welcomed.
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Why do the medjia refer to bLiar as “peace envoy”? Whilst, his office is for him to be in charge of distributing the European funds allocated to Palestinians. Simply put the fox is in charge of the chicken coop. That corrupt bastard steadily will not be able to trust anyone other than his ziofuckwit associates, which he will eventually find this to be akin to jumping out of the frying pan into the fire.
Sketch: A day of worship for the almighty Theresa
Michael Deacon watches MPs takes turns to congratulate Theresa May on the extradition of Abu Qatada.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10167255/Sketch-A-day-of-worship-for-the-almighty-Theresa.html
@ Passerby (16h22) :
“Theresa May vows to change human rights law
‘Wholesale changes’
Trouble is she has been in contraventions of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights up until now, from now she can make legal the illegal and get on with contravening the UDHR legally!”
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I really do wish that people would not simply write the first thing that comes into their heads but just think (and if necessary research)for a few minutes before spouting off.
Firstly, the Universal Declaration is just that – a declaration. It is not “law” and has no legal force, and consequently contains no provisions for the implementation and enforcement of its 29-odd articles. It is – and this is not meant as a criticism – utopian in nature and there is no state on earth which has not been, since its adoption and up to the present, in “violation” of several (and probably in some cases, most) of its articles. Take, for example, its articles on the “right to education” or (my own words) a “decent standard of living”.
There is therefore no question of the UK govt seeking to make “legal” the “illegal” or contravening the UDHR “legally”.
Secondly, what I imagine Passerby is thinking of is what is commonly known as the European Convention on Human Rights and/or the UK’s Human Rights Act (2000).
The former (ECHR)is a completely different animal from the UDHR : it lays down a (more limited, as compared to the UDHR) numbers of rights and sets out mechanisms and procedures (notably the European Court of Human Rights) for adjudication and enforcement of those rights within the Contracting Parties (ie, the States Party). Furthermore, its judgements have the force of law and are binding on the States Party involved in a case. The latter (HRA) is, essentially, the full incorporation of the ECHR into UK law, inter alia, that since 2000 actions under the European Convention (eg, an individual who feels that his rights under, say, Article 7 have been breached) can be brought directly in the UK courts and UCHR law is directly applicable in the UK; applicants need no longer go to Strasbourg to have their suits heard and adjudicated (however, they can still do so once all possible remedies in the UK courts have been exhausted).
This is what should be referred to by commenters when they talk about breaches in “human rights law”.
Has the UK been found to have violated THIS human rights law? Certainly, and on several occasions. As have many if not all of the States Party. And there have been no instances, to my knowledge at least, of States Party not bowing to the judgements of the ECtHR.
So : when the govt talks about its intention to substantially change “human rights law” it is referring to either the ECHR or to the UK’s HRA. Given that getting changes agreed to the former would take years if not decades (if feasible at all) and given that the UK has no intention of “withdrawing” from that Convention (this would be politically unfeasible) and that so-called reservations on the ECHR can only be entered on signature or ratification but not subsequently, I should imagine that it is changes to the UK’s own Human Rights Act are what is being considered. And we shall not know what these envisaged changes might be until they have been proposed.
Conclusion : please refer to what should be referred to (ie, more precision, please) and let’s have less hysteria and fewer wild accusations while awaiting concrete proposals.
Posted at 19h05 :
“Sketch: A day of worship for the almighty Theresa
Michael Deacon watches MPs takes turns to congratulate Theresa May on the extradition of Abu Qatada.”
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Well, if I were a vulgarian, I should say “the girl done good”, but since I am anything but, I shall simply add my congratulations to those of the MPs for the achievement (scrupulously following due process) of something which had eluded God knows how many Home Secretaries before her (Home Secretaries with physical balls, by the way).
AFTERTHOUGHT – is there anyone here who feels strongly that Mr Qatada should NOT have been deported? Happy to discuss.
“For the record, disabled children ought to be cherished as much as the able bodied children,..”
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If not more so, in my opinion, for their need is even greater.
Tweet
“A marriage made in hell: #Monsanto buys #Blackwater – Really toxic mercenaries”
http://politicalblindspot.com/yes-monsanto-actually-did-buy-the-blackwater-mercenary-group/
The International Bill of Human rights or Universal Declaration of Human Rights, ought to be printed on the back of every bag of sugar, and cereal boxes. For without any such a safeguard, the total bastards and psychopaths in charge will pay lip service to human rights, whilst contravening every moral, and legal imperatives concerning our inalienable rights as a human being.
The following is a distressing account of such an abuse. It must be noted that the tradition of fasting and rejecting food in the face of injustice, is to be found in more than one culture. Those of Irish descent perhaps would be more familiar with this concept.
The tyranny of the concentration camp in Gitmo
“AFTERTHOUGHT – is there anyone here who feels strongly that Mr Qatada should NOT have been deported? Happy to discuss.”
Must be me then again H. It is a case I’ve been following, for although the media portrayed and portray him as a villain, I have heard no substantive evidence from MSM.
Here are two parallel cases I wrote about in May.
http://newsjunkiepost.com/2013/05/03/is-hatred-of-islam-the-uk-home-secretarys-religion/
I also raised a FOI request regarding questions that have been bothering me in the Abu Qatada case, not least of which is the suggestion that he worked for the UK secret services.
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/abu_qatadas_crime_or_crimes#incoming-400219
the best analysis yet:
8 July – Thierry Meyssan: Does Morsi’s fate foreshadow that of the Muslim
Brotherhood?
CAPTION: Of 84 million Egyptians, 33 million took to the streets to celebrate the military coup
So when it became clear that its allies were overwhelmed by the street, Washington ordered them to give way to the prefabricated opposition…
Ultimately, what characterizes the “Arab Spring” (Tunisia, Egypt, Libya, Syria) is not instability, or culture, but the solution envisaged by the imperialist powers: the rise to power of the Muslim Brotherhood.
This secret, allegedly anti-imperialist organization has always been politically controlled by London. It was represented in Hillary Clinton’s cabinet through Huma Abedin (wife of Anthony Weiner, former pro-Zionist U.S. Representative), whose mother Saleha Abedin leads the global women’s branch
of the Brotherhood. Qatar has bankrolled operations for more than $15 billion per year (!) in addition to the media coverage of the Brotherhood, who in late 2005 was given charge of the Al-Jazeera channel. Finally, Turkey has provided policy expertise with communication consultants…
http://www.voltairenet.org/article179282.html
@Fred “When I hear someone is being called a self loathing Jew for opposing Zionism I speak out and when I hear someone being called a self loathing Scot for opposing Nationalism I do the same. It is wrong, no amount of Nationalist propaganda or attempts to demonise the victim can make it right.
Your point doesn’t make any sense. What your on about is intolerance and lack of respect for freedom of opinion and speech – I’ve no idea why you decide that its the same thing as nationalism or people who want the best for their country. You do realise that all of this world is currently made up of various countries, including the current ‘british state’, which means that the whole world is therefore nationalist? How have you worked out which country is good nationalist versus bad nationalist countries? Have you got a natiometer?