Feile An Phobail Belfast 4110


The Respectability of Torture


St Mary’s University College, Thurs 1st August, 7.30pm

 

Craig Murray, former British ambassador to Uzbekistan, was a whistleblower who was removed from his ambassadorial post by Tony Blair for exposing the Tashkent regime‟s use of rape and systematic torture, including the boiling to death of political opponents. He has also spoken out against Central Asia‟s appalling dictatorships, regimes which are allies of the West, involved in torture and rendition, and was accused of threatening MI6‟s relationship with the CIA. Now a human rights activist, author and broadcaster, he outlines the dynamics of torture and the hypocrisy of incriminated Western governments.

 

My first public appearance for a while will be in Belfast on 1 August where I shall be giving a talk.  Long term readers of this blog will recall that, while my focus is largely on international affairs, the domestic political achievements I most hope to see are a united Ireland and an independent Scotland.


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  • Herbie

    Suhayl says:

    “Many Arab states use the Palestinian issue as an excuse to continue to enforce secret police authoritarianism on their own populations and to direct discontent away from themselves and towards ‘the Zionist entity’.”

    which works in reverse as well.

    “Many western states use the Islamist issue as an excuse to continue to enforce secret police authoritarianism on their own populations and to direct discontent away from themselves and towards ‘the Islamist entity’.”

    Hard to have one without the other.

  • Komodo

    I think you’re being unfair to Abdalqadir-as-Sufi, Suhayl. Isn’t he more an (over-?)enthusiastic convert to Islam, and observer of most of its precepts, than a guru? Do the funds he raises end up in his own pocket? I rather like his proposal that zakat (charitable giving) should return to the gold standard, anyway…doesn’t seem all that entranced by usury either.

  • Komodo

    This little beauty slipped under the MSM radar, didn’t it?

    To impose additional human rights and economic and financial sanctions
    with respect to Iran, and for other purposes.

    http://beta.congress.gov/bill/113th/house-bill/850/text

    After all, there is not one reason for passing this punitive bill before the new president takes office, unless, of course, AIPAC’s goal is to insult Rouhani and the Iranian nation in order to push him toward becoming another Ahmedinejad.

    Nothing pleased the lobby more than having an Iranian president who spouted obscene nonsense about the Holocaust and Israel, all the easier to convince the United States to go to war with him. But this guy is trouble. If he is a real moderate, AIPAC won’t get its war.

    http://occupiedpalestine.wordpress.com/2013/08/05/house-to-pass-new-aipac-bill-this-week-to-promote-war-with-iran-by-mjayrosenberg/

  • Flaming June

    Was this deluded lady in a fit state of mind to make this bequest?

    Woman leaves £500,000 to coalition

    Justin Parkinson
    Political reporter, BBC News

    A woman who left more than £500,000 in her will to the Conservatives and Lib Dems stipulated that the money should go to “whoever is in government”.

    The Tories received £420,576 from Joan Edwards’s bequest during the second quarter of this year, while the Lib Dems got £99,423.

    /..
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-23679967

  • Flaming June

    Cheers Clark. Good to see you back. Hope your stay in Wales was restful and productive and that the water supply problems were sorted.

    Yesterday was not a good day here. I got stung on the palm of my hand by a wasp (no laughing in the back please), the lawnmower’s pulley drive mechanism fell to bits and the hedge trimmer lost a nut and bolt on the cutter blade holster which rendered it unusable.

  • Passerby

    Hi Clark,

    Good to see you back, did you mange to finish off your jobs?

    ===

    As ever the immigrants and Muslims are there to help, smooth out the bumpy ride for the politicos as the bad news tsunami is under way.

    The way above inflation price rises of the train fares (passengers must share the burden of keeping the shareholders in their champagne life styles), rampant inflation (good news the house prices are at 2006 prices, and the numbers going on holidays at 1954 levels, oh what a joy, by golly by Jingo it is all going ever so swimmingly), Gibraltar confrontation (that is Daigos fault), ……. Fear not all can be solved, just start rolling the presses and and the news today is;

    Call centre worker in court accused of making video called Muslim Laughs at British Soldier Killing

    A call centre worker allegedly made a video glorifying the murder of Fusilier Lee Rigby, a court heard yesterday.

    The court heard that the footage showed a man laughing as he drove past dad Fusilier Rigby’s memorial

    This story in the mid page carries a picture of a man and woman of “Muslim appearance” ie bearded long gown for the male and a fully clad and covered female. with the caption “supporters of Royal Barnes arrive at Westminster magistrate”. This of course for just in case those who dismiss the story and flick over, at least they will see the headline and the relevant pictures so they get the message anyway.

    Then there is the usual bum’s rush:

    Man charged over Rigby video clips
    Herald Scotland

    Man charged with terror offences over Woolwich murder videos
    BBC News

    Terrorist charges for man ‘who celebrated Lee Rigby’s murder’
    The Times

    Muslim ‘filmed himself laughing at Lee Rigby memorial’
    Evening Standard

    Lee Rigby: Man Charged Over ‘Terror Videos’
    Sky News

    Man charged with terror offences after ‘making videos about death of Middleton …
    Manchester Evening News

    Salesman in court charged with circulating terror videos ‘glorifying’ Woolwich …
    Daily Mail

    East Londoner charged with making ‘soldier killing’ videoss
    The Wharf

    Man, 22, faces terror charges over Woolwich videos
    ITV News

    Man on Rigby videos terror charges
    Formby Times

    Lee Rigby: Man charged with terror offences over video about murdered …
    Express.co.uk

    Man Charged Over Terror Videos Of Lee Rigby
    LBC 97.3

    Man charged for glorifying death of Lee Rigby
    The Voice Online

    These screaming headlines that equate the production of a video clip as an act of terror, are then complimented with the “support our heroes” (the army is still out there and fighting in Afghanistan and could go to Syria and else where) to keep everyone on board;

    Prince Charles says ‘brutal’ execution of Drummer Lee Rigby has ‘taken its toll …
    Daily Mail

    ‘Brutal’ death of Lee Rigby damaged troop morale, Prince Charles says
    Telegraph.co.uk

    Prince Charles: Lee Rigby’s ‘brutal’ death has taken its toll on armed forces
    Metro

    ‘Brutal’ death of Lee Rigby has taken it’s toll on the Armed Forces, says Prince …
    Express.co.uk

    Woolwich attack: Death of Lee Rigby has affected morale, says Prince Charles
    London24

    Although ever the opportunist Murdoch utilises this two minutes hate and the Royalty to plug the Sun:

    Tribute for fallen soldier as His Royal Highness launches The Sun Military …
    The Sun

    The two minutes hate fanning the flames of hatred is preached to this bunch:

    mass brawl on Legoland pirate ship

    Horrified children looked on as the “vicious” fight unfolded at the Windsor theme park last weekend.

    Legoland security staff brought the situation under control, and Thames Valley Police arrested two men on suspicion of a public order offence.

    Cue the Ukrainian Bombers and the rest of the mob itching for a good dust up to target the mosques and the Muslims, that will show the swine, who is the boss?!

    In the other news;

    Children carry unexploded bomb to west Belfast PSNI station

    Today sorted, there is always some other angle on hate is to be found for tomorrow, now the press officers and the editors all can go for lunch break, knowing they have done a great job!

  • Komodo

    See K @ 12.57…

    The David Project’s chairman is one Seth Klarman. A hedge-fund boss, as it happens, and unimaginably rich. And whose wife helps fund Obama….

    http://mondoweiss.net/2011/11/why-is-charlie-rose-hugging-seth-klarman.html

    Seth Klarman seems to be a good liberal. Martha Minow, dean of Harvard Law School, is on Facing History’s board. Klarman’s wife Beth gives money to Barack Obama, Barbara Boxer, and Barney Frank. The Klarman Family Foundation (with an annual budget of about $40 million) gives tons to hospitals and arts organizations, the ballet, Shakespeare, Big Brother, Planned Parenthood, and NARAL. It has also given money to public television. I bet that Charlie Rose’s show is getting support from Klarman– or that Rose is seeking money from him, and that’s why he’s doing this interview.

    But being a liberal philanthropist is just one side of Klarman. He is also an Israel lobbyist who is just as rightwing as Sheldon Adelson, the casino owner who supports the Republican Party.

    Klarman gives money to settler groups: the Central Fund of Israel,which pays for settlers’ “security needs” in the occupied West Bank, and Ir David, which is digging up East Jerusalem and displacing Palestinians. He gives $1 million in a year to Birthright, the program to send young American Jews to Israel to fall in love with the Jewish state. He supports the rightwing propaganda organization, the Israel Project (he’s on their board), gives big money to the Friends of the Israeli Defense Forces, and to top it off, Klarman is chairman of the board of the David Project, the group that has targeted Arab and Muslim intellectuals on college campuses.

    Klarman epitomizes the foreign-policy crisis of the liberal Establishment: he supports every traditional liberal cause at the same time as he is a rightwinger on Middle East policy. And he’s hardly alone. I’ve written about other big liberal philanthropists who swing right on Israel here.

  • John Goss

    Komodo thanks. Good article. I have no idea why the UK mainstream media would not be interested in a story about Arafat having been poisoned by polonium.

  • Dreoilin

    “Dreoilin, it’s a difficult situation with a nasty tendency to polarise; people keep deciding whether they’re “for” or “against” Flaming June”

    I said some time ago, Clark, that I don’t join cliques, I plough my own furrow. And I’ll continue to do so. As far as I’m concerned, there’s nothing to call a truce over.

    Maybe it’s escaped your attention, but I come under criticism too. I’ve been called an old hag, said to be on a zimmerframe, menopausal, etc. It rolls off me like water off a duck. I’m used to give and take on blogs – some of it a lot worse than here. I submit that Mary isn’t, and takes everything (including herself and her activity here) far too seriously.

  • Flaming June

    Train fares rise. Fares have risen by 40% since 2008.

    South West Train’s announcement last year. Same again this year. The well named Mr Shoveller. Shovel them on, leave them standing during the journey and fleece them for as much as you can. An off peak return to Waterloo used to cost me under £10 a few years back. It was nearly £19 the other day.

    SOUTH WEST TRAINS CONFIRMS FARES CHANGES FOR JANUARY 2013

    ‘Rail fares on South West Trains will increase by an average of 4.1% from 2 January 2013, the company confirmed today (6 December 2012).The cost of a single journey will rise by an average of 16p. Customers wishing to purchase season tickets at pre-increase prices must ensure their ticket is purchased and commences on or before Tuesday 1 January 2013.

    Passengers can check the new price of their usual ticket or any other fare at http://www.southwesttrains.co.uk or through National Rail Enquiries.

    Fare rises are determined largely by government policy, and the Chancellor confirmed the approach for next year in yesterday’s Autumn Statement.

    Tim Shoveller, Managing Director of the South West Trains/Network Rail Alliance, said: “Railway funding can only come from the taxpayer or from the passenger. The government’s policy remains that a bigger share must come from people who use the train.

    “We know that nobody likes paying more for their travel, especially to get to work. That’s why we are working hard with the rest of the rail industry to make the system more cost-efficient and help take the pressure off future fare rises. At the same time, we are investing in our trains and stations to deliver a better railway for our customers.”

    For more information on 2013 fares, including how to get the best value deals, passengers can also visit http://www.atoc.org/2013fares/finding-the-best-fare.php

    That was last year. Same announced for January 2014.

    SWT are a division of Stagecoach. Souter and sister Cloag. Revenue £2.5 billion
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stagecoach_Group

    Nationalize the lot of them – the privatised rail companies that is. I heard this morning that Network Rail is virtually broke, as half its revenue goes on repaying debt.

    The fare arriving in January will be 40% higher than in 2008
    by Tim Lezard – 13th August 2013
    http://union-news.co.uk/2013/08/the-fare-arriving-in-january-will-be-40-higher-than-in-2008/

  • Clark

    Dreoilin, this is exactly the type of discussion that I wish to avoid; it is purely personal and casts no light at all on world events. I’m sorry that you’ve been insulted (and yes I have missed almost everything here for several weeks), but obviously, that doesn’t mean that I should refrain from offering of a bit of friendly support to Flaming June, who has indeed been targeted (and I don’t mean by you) for months.

    My opinion is that the insults you were subjected to arose due to the degraded atmosphere of personal bickering that has developed in the last few months. If we can each decrease our level of personal criticism the atmosphere will improve and contributors will become less snappy. Everyone writes something daft occasionally; it’s better to let it slip quietly into the past than to amplify and extend it by getting into an argument.

  • Clark

    Passerby, Flaming June, thanks. My stay in Wales was anything but restful, though it did make a pleasant change. And yes, I did eventually complete the plumbing job to my satisfaction, and then the rain came and added some water to the depleted tanks, which rounded things off nicely.

  • AlcAnon

    Clark,

    I’m not too far north. I spotted it at about 30 degrees up and watched it until it winked out out. The NASA spot the station link ( http://spotthestation.nasa.gov/sightings/) allows you to specify exactly where you are in the UK and will calculate the angles for you. I thinks it’s a fairly recent NASA page.

  • Dreoilin

    “Dreoilin, this is exactly the type of discussion that I wish to avoid”

    Clark, if you want to avoid discussion, don’t write me a big long comment and expect me not to reply.

  • AlcAnon

    http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2013/08/2013811131034480853.html

    Being honest about the dominant zionist narrative
    Mayor of Upper Nazareth espouses the logic of exclusion that defines the current Israeli political and social landscape.

    …“I made a clear and unequivocal statement that Upper Nazareth is a Jewish city.” writes Shimon Gapso in an Oped featured on Haaretz [AFP]

    The Israeli mayor of Upper Nazareth, Shimon Gapso, is an honest man. As part of his bid for re-election in the town which overlooks the ancient Palestinian city of Nazareth, he has launched a well-orchestrated political campaign….

    …One reads, “Upper Nazareth will be Jewish forever; no more shutting our eyes… this is the time to defend our home.”

    Another poster reads: “I will not allow the city’s Jewish character to be changed. I will block the establishment of an Arab school and will build neighbourhoods for Jewish residents …Upper Nazareth is a Jewish city!”

    In a letter to Attorney General Yehuda Weinstein, two Israeli organisations Tag Meir and the Israel Religious Action Center condemned Gapso’s election campaign as “consisting wholly of racist incitement”. Writing on behalf of both organisations, Israel Religious Action Centre attorney Einat Hurvitz wrote that the remarks by Gapso on his campaign posters “do not belong in an equal, pluralistic society, especially not when made by an elected official. These are utterly racist quotes, since all of Gapso’s re-election campaign is based on a clear racist line – the prevention of equal resources from Upper Nazareth’s Arab residents, and an effort to drive out the Arabs from the city.”

    Gapso, of course, did not remain silent. In an incredibly forthright Oped, which appeared on the Israeli news site, Ha’aretz , he complained that many people had been calling him a racist. “Sometimes they also call me a Nazi, a bully or even Hitler. One need only look at the comments on Haaretz’s website, [where people want] to put me before a firing squad,” he wrote; and then rhetorically asked the readers: “What’s my crime? What act of bullying did I commit?”

    He, of course, immediately responds: “I made a clear and unequivocal statement that Upper Nazareth is a Jewish city. Yes – I’m not afraid to say it out loud, to write it and add my signature, or declare it in front of the cameras: Upper Nazareth is a Jewish city and it’s important that it remains so.”

    After this pithy statement, Gapso lays out his manifesto. “If that makes me a racist,” he declares, “then I’m a proud offshoot of a glorious dynasty of ‘racists’ that started with the ‘Covenant of the Pieces’ [that God made with Abraham, recounted in Genesis 15:1–15] and the explicitly racist promise: ‘To your seed I have given this land’ [Genesis 15:38].”

    He goes on to note that “When the Jewish people were about to return to their homeland after a long journey from slavery in Egypt, where they were enslaved for racist reasons, the God of Israel told Moses how to act upon conquering the land: he must cleanse the land of its current inhabitants.”

    Fast forwarding 3000 years, Gaspo claims:

    “The racist Theodor Herzl wrote ‘Der Judenstaat’ (‘The Jewish State,’ not ‘The State of All Its Citizens’). Lord Balfour recommended the establishment of a national home for the Jewish people. David Ben-Gurion, Chaim Arlosoroff, Moshe Sharett and other racists established the Jewish Agency, and the racist UN decided to establish a Jewish state – in other words, a state for Jews. The racist Ben-Gurion announced the establishment of the Jewish State in the Land of Israel, and during the War of Independence even made sure to bring in hundreds of thousands of Jews and drive out hundreds of thousands of Arabs who had been living here – all to enable it to be founded with the desired racist character.”

    “Since then,” the mayor concludes, “racially pure kibbutzim without a single Arab member and an army that protects a certain racial strain have been established, as have political parties that proudly bear racist names such as ‘Habayit Hayehudi’ – ‘the Jewish home’. Even our racist national anthem ignores the existence of the Arab minority – in other words, the people Ben-Gurion did not manage to expel in the 1948 war. If not for all that ‘racism’, it’s doubtful we could live here, and doubtful that we could live at all.”

    Gapso’s clear-sighted analysis of the dominant Zionist narrative speaks volumes about Israel’s state in the new millennium.

  • Herbie

    This article on the Israeli/Palestinian piece talks, starting tomorrow, manages to give a reasonable account of what’s going on, something the BBC now never achieves. Israel disputes this.

    It seems to have attracted its own habby as well.

    http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/08/13/uk-palestinians-israel-preview-idUKBRE97C0BS20130813

    “While pessimists abound, a few optimists still stand up, including Israeli President Shimon Peres.

    He argues that not only do Israelis want peace, but that the recent instability caused by the Arab uprisings has left a number of Arab states eager to settle the decades-old conflict.

    “People who are sceptical are wrong. There is a difference between this and previous attempts,” he said on Sunday.”

    Hmmmmm…

  • Clark

    Dreoilin, 2:32 pm:

    “Clark, if you want to avoid discussion, don’t write me a big long comment and expect me not to reply.”

    Dreoilin, it was you who initiated discussion with me. I offered support to Flaming June, and you took exception; it was me who was replying to you, not vice-versa.

    Would you like me to stop supporting Flaming June? If you don’t reply I’ll assume you don’t.

  • Herbie

    Thanks for posting that hasbara resource, Komodo.

    Habby has been running out of script, even recently apologising for using the exact same image twice.

    Funding problems, I’d imagine.

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