The GCHQ listening post on Mount Troodos in Cyprus is arguably the most valued asset which the UK contributes to UK/US intelligence cooperation. The communications intercept agencies, GCHQ in the UK and NSA in the US, share all their intelligence reports (as do the CIA and MI6). Troodos is valued enormously by the NSA. It monitors all radio, satellite and microwave traffic across the Middle East, ranging from Egypt and Eastern Libya right through to the Caucasus. Even almost all landline telephone communication in this region is routed through microwave links at some stage, picked up on Troodos.
Troodos is highly effective – the jewel in the crown of British intelligence. Its capacity and efficiency, as well as its reach, is staggering. The US do not have their own comparable facility for the Middle East. I should state that I have actually been inside all of this facility and been fully briefed on its operations and capabilities, while I was head of the FCO Cyprus Section in the early 1990s. This is fact, not speculation.
It is therefore very strange, to say the least, that John Kerry claims to have access to communications intercepts of Syrian military and officials organising chemical weapons attacks, which intercepts were not available to the British Joint Intelligence Committee.
On one level the explanation is simple. The intercept evidence was provided to the USA by Mossad, according to my own well placed source in the Washington intelligence community. Intelligence provided by a third party is not automatically shared with the UK, and indeed Israel specifies it should not be.
But the inescapable question is this. Mossad have nothing comparable to the Troodos operation. The reported content of the conversations fits exactly with key tasking for Troodos, and would have tripped all the triggers. How can Troodos have missed this if Mossad got it? The only remote possibility is that all the conversations went on a purely landline route, on which Mossad have a physical wire tap, but that is very unlikely in a number of ways – not least nowadays the purely landline route.
Israel has repeatedly been involved in the Syrian civil war, carrying out a number of illegal bombings and missile strikes over many months. This absolutely illegal activity by Israel- which has killed a great many civilians, including children – has brought no condemnation at all from the West. Israel has now provided “intelligence” to the United States designed to allow the United States to join in with Israel’s bombing and missile campaign.
The answer to the Troodos Conundrum is simple. Troodos did not pick up the intercepts because they do not exist. Mossad fabricated them. John Kerry’s “evidence” is the shabbiest of tricks. More children may now be blown to pieces by massive American missile blasts. It is nothing to do with humanitarian intervention. It is, yet again, the USA acting at the behest of Israel.
Have UK/French/US mercenaries been training the ‘rebels’ to use chemical weapons? Has Qatar been financing it? Are these chemical weapons through Saudi Arabia under falsified certificates? Who, specifically, might be involved?
I have no idea.
Here is an intersting site:
http://www.britamdefence.com/
Still don’t understand why no interest in USA having caused the Syrian gas attack, especially since it relates to its murder of leaker John P. Wheeler, III.
Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has just dismissed John Kerry’s claims of Syrian as completely unsubstantiated nonsense, and if the USA still goes ahead with its attack on Syria, even if it gets congressional approval, without UN Security Council approval, there will be international chaos.
Remember when Wheeler was killed the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR0 claimed that he had been killed for leaking information about the Air Force’s killing masses of birds and fishes because of its accidental spraying of phosgene from planes in Arkansas and Louisiana – what was a mistaken claim about why he was murdered after the START treaty was approved by the Senate just to show Washington that it knew why Wheeler had really been killed.
Wheeler had stopped the use of spraying the iranian test tunnel in the Iran desert, forcing the USA’s National Reconnaissance Agency to sink it with a satellite laser attack, causing the necessary earthquake, which did it instead.
Now no one can doubt that Russia has been using its facilities in Syria to keep track of what Washington and London have been up to when it comes to creating a ‘false flag’ attack to really remove the Assad regime.
If the Western aggressors do not take their case to the Security Council, we shall have a major war – what they cannot risk since any case would be ripped apart there by Putin’s people.
Seems that the looming fireworks will just not get the ignition it needs for war.
“I can’t see that the article does directly suggest this unintenional hit on rebel’s WMD storage, perhaps it does so indirectly ? Anyhow imo, this theory is as credible as any other, if not more so.”
It is my thought as well, Macky.
why the hurry why the hurry.
assad is deconstructing the mossad,cia,mi6 al nusra,fsa al quaeda organ eaters.
causing havoc for future for the sake of humanity interventions.
while an ancient country is being destroyed assad is dishing out some zionist payback.
hezbollah are getting killed yes but great experience on the battle field.
bandar bush seems to have been given 6 months.
on the bbc the other day someone said if we do not do some thing now.
ASSAD WILL KILL MORE INNOCENTS.
if this is history as it happens how can we believe any of what has gone before.
what would sherlock holmes think of dodgy bbc fotos and you tube edited clips
as proofs of anything.
Oh, I forgot: the Vice President of the United States and his son, Beau Biden, helping make up the convenient false story that Greenville, Delaware hitman Andrew Robert Levene may have killed Wheeler while telling all the proper authorities to go slow in any investigation of the murder for unexplained reasons.
Levene then apparently committed suicide in a Spanish jail after having been caught while on the run for a jewelry robbery in Weston, Connecticut.
The Russians would have a field day with Biden’s problems in any discussion in the Security Council of the merits of his claims about Assad’s regime.
Trowbridge; Does Biden’s grin remind you of the Cheshire Cat? You seem to have a bun on. 🙂
Jesus, Ben, you are getting ridiculous.
Why?
I have only noticed Biden’s grimaces recently.
And I don’t have any buns on.
I am not married, and don’t have any girl friends, so it’s impossible for me to be thinking that they are cheating on me.
Just save your imagination for the questions at hand: the growing crisis in Syria, and who and what are causing it.
Trowbridge; No offense intended. Just tryin’ to crack a smile, now and then. Life isn’t very worthwhile otherwise, and we are serious most of the time with good reason, but it gets depressing.
Craig; You outdid yourself with this post. So many pings and links they can’t be counted. It really drew US blogs in.
Phil
31 Aug, 2013 – 1:40 pm
“The veracity of the story has absolutely nothing to do with my point. I am merely saying that relying on a professional liar as a source is not what I expected from craig.”
If the report is true Phil it doesn’t matter who the messenger is, liar or not.
I am beginning to suspect a troll in our midst.
Abe Rene
31 Aug, 2013 – 4:02 pm
“…who would be capable of such a chemical attack within Syria’s borders apart from agents of the state?”
How about agents of another state?
Silly arse!
i certainly agree with phil on this matter.the suggestion that the thread was derailed and israel or the uk had unclean hands in this terrible episode is rather silly.
israel wants peace great britain simply an ordered world.
phil cannot and should not be accused of forum sliding,anger trolling or god forbid topic dilution.
my position is if tony blair thinks we need to invade syria and egypt so be it.
he is the middle east peace envoy he must have some pretty juicy and scary intel is all i can say.
keep on rocking phil do not let this swamp of goys grind you down
Okay, Ben, but this is no time for joking; it just gets worse.
This morning I just figured out why the feds, apparently NSA’s SCS, tried to murder me after I revived interest in Wheeler’s murder in July on The Local.
At the time, I was trying to find out why the feds were trying to link me to a neighbor here in New Haven, Steven Nickerson.
He apparently knew Andrew Robert Levene who killed Westport jeweler Zeevi in a December 2011 robbery, and was made out to be Wheeler’s assassin, thanks to all the claims his widow was making about it being a professional hit, most likely to look by she herself to stop her complaints.
Here in New Haven, the cops tried to connect me to it all, and it was only because I was sleeping on the floor, and didn’t have to stand up when the hit on me was to take place, that it didn’t succeed, as i could still see the hitman pointing his flash beam laser weapon at where I was supposed to be.
Just another example of how the unexpected or accidents can ruin the most planned plots.
Of course, my murder would have closed the whole matter up most securely, but now they have to keep dealing with me.
Trowbridge; What is ‘The Local’ ? Is it a newspaper? I’m sorry about the poorly timed humor.
Post as much as you can here to extend your own advantage. I’m too old to care if I am made a target, as well. Do you have any way of communicating details in your comfort zone? You said New Haven…Conn? It is concerning you seem to be alone in this.
Well Maccabbees was a rejected book of the Bible because it didn’t meet the smell test, but I’m glad you trust Tony to take you into the bowels of Hell. Israel is right next door.
Thanks, Ben, but don’t be too worried about me.
I have gone to the cops enough about my problems for them finally to be concerned about anything happening to me on their turf.
I also have a lot of family around here, especially a nephew NY lawyer, so while almost everyone thinks I’m a bit nuts, they all will quickly change their minds in important ways if I suddenly just die.
The Local is the web news site and blog for Swedish news in English, and the blog thread about Wheeler is the one in the international news section, dealing with START, the Hosseinabad earthquake, Wheeler’s murder etc. My post on July 24,2013 got the whole thing going again, with the spooks going through my papers in the furniture I was shipping back to the States, and the State hitmen plotting my murder.
And they call it civilized!
Seems to me that O’Bomber was never particularly keen to attack Syria, he’s far more interested in concentrating power at home. Now he’s kicked the whole issue into the long grass by inviting Congress to decide.
This puts the opposition in a very awkward position. They don’t want to go along with anything O’Bomber wants on principle – even if they were demanding that very thing only moments earlier. The Libertarian, R-Paul wing of the repubs does not like any foreign intervention in any case, so they won’t be interested in favouring any bombing campaign either.
The loony-right Teabaggers contingent (a not insignificant proportion, particularly of the last intake of freshmen) cannot coorporate with O’Bomber, on anything, or they will be kicked out by their own constituents for heresy.
So O’Bomber can avoid a charge of being weak and indecisive, can appear to be democratic, and do what he wanted to do all along. Very clever. The Congressional leader John Boner can squeal all he likes, but all O’Bomber is doing is handing the decision to the rabble he tries to control.
I wonder if O’Bomber has told Cameron not to sweat it on the failed Commons vote, let’s soft-peddle this one. Seems that Cameron has taken the whole defeat business with remarkable magnanimity.
Don’t spew at the mouth, don’t go blue,
Don’t roll your eyes in wonder
Just follow the sarin, follow the plunder…
Might the stink lead all the way to Prince Sultan Bin Bandar?
Hey, listen – does anyone have his number?
Glenn- It’s being jokingly surmised here that Obama might get a Yes if he kicks Obamacare down the road a bit. I agree with you conclusion. He never wanted this, and the question is who has enough power to force POTUS to go against his own grain?
http://www.timesofisrael.com/peres-backs-obamas-syria-policy-says-hes-sure-the-us-will-strike/
It’s going to happen, folks. The tail has just wagged.
not sure what the point is but i am saying is tony blair lives here.he has the best interests of team gb at heart.
he like phil is an honest broker.
as far as the cyprus issue i here it has not been upgraded since john majors time,so pretty low tech in my book.
like most things on sleepy cyprus.
cyprus is mainly for are boys for rest and relaxation.
my guess is the intel came from the signals arm of the fsa very well trained i here.
talking of smell tests israeli and uk involvement seems very unlikely at this stage.
cyprus is a non issue here.
And if it does, it might be curtains for us all as Russia and all its allies have been put on the highest alert in anticipation of any attack.
Putin is not going to be caught asleep at the wheel as Stalin was in July 1941.
Trowbridge; EQ story not found on The Local…other EQ yes, but not that one.
Suhayl,
From your link
It is there. Just google this:
Did Uncle Sam Just Sink Iran’s Nuclear Test Site? -The Local
Trowbridge; This is what I got.
http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=Did+Uncle+Sam+Just+Sink+Iran’s+Nuclear+Test+Site%3F+-The+Local&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
Do you just insult others, and lie about what they have done, Ben, when you completely disagree with them?
EQ stories I have done, implying that I am some kind or autistic or an inventor of fairy tales! Just looked up the meanings of EQ, what I have never seen mentioned before
You are just a mindless moron, like most of the other anonymous posters on this site.
Trowbridge; I honestly don’t know what to say. Let’s just forget it.
Ben,
I found Trow’s link
http://www.thelocal.se/discuss/index.php?showtopic=37385