The Tony Blair House Journal (editor Alan Rusbridger) reports on Kanye West’s disgusting private performance for the Kazakh dictator and his family, and takes a sideswipe at David Cameron for visiting that country.
But peculiarly they fail to mention that Tony Blair receives US $4 million a year as a consultant to the worker murdering Kazakh dictator, and that Alistair Campbell and Jonathon Powell as well as Blair visit to give this support – which has included a behind the scenes campaign to help Nazarbaev win the Nobel Peace Prize, fortunately with no result to date.
@ Herbie
“Now habby’s taking credit for pulling the world back from the brink of WWIII.”
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Not really, Herbie, and even if I were there’d be no need for you to be jealous.
But I admit I do take credit for being just about the only poster who kept a cool, rational and thinking head. No twisted knickers, no fouling the pampers with Habbabkuk!
Others please take note.
So, habby.
What’s your explanation for the West pulling back on this occasion?
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/11/nsa-americans-personal-data-israel-documents
“The National Security Agency routinely shares raw intelligence data with Israel without first sifting it to remove information about US citizens, a top-secret document provided to the Guardian by whistleblower Edward Snowden reveals.
Details of the intelligence-sharing agreement are laid out in a memorandum of understanding between the NSA and its Israeli counterpart that shows the US government handed over intercepted communications likely to contain phone calls and emails of American citizens. The agreement places no legally binding limits on the use of the data by the Israelis.”
Whistleblower Sibel Edmonds on 9/11:
http://is.gd/etaedR
@Jonangus.
Thanks.
Sybil Edmonds has a point there, “…up to this point, at least here at the center of big terror operations, we’ve been only bystanders who, willingly or unwillingly, directly or indirectly, have aided and abetted the real and biggest world terrorists- with our lives, limbs, tax dollars, votes, and of course, our silence. That makes us the real big terrorists’ accomplices. Whether you like it or not, that’s a fact. Even the real big terrorists’ own laws and rules say so.”
Or does that mean she’s another self-hating westerner?
Did I just hear somebody whistle?
http://www.ceh.ac.uk/sci_programmes/winterdistributionofisleofmayshags.html
Die Deutsche Schrumpfnation kann nicht mehr genug Kinder erzeugen…..Tough, they must ask the Turkish and Italian immigrants to do it for them then.
I’m not going to leave England just because it, our resident Germanophile, has a problem with Hanoverian not shagging enough, ask your sidekick, the villager.
Herbie asks me :
“What’s your explanation for the West pulling back on this occasion?”
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You’re being a tad presumptuous, Herbie – why do you think I owe you an explanation of my thinking? Just focus on the fact that I was right from the beginning : no military action, no limited war, no upheaval in the Middle East and no WW3 (all predicted by variopus Eminences.
But I believe in adult education and so would of course be willing to share my thinking with you.
That is, once I’m satisfied that you’ve rid yourself of your “delusion that the West is the fount of all evil in the world and can do no right” (to quote my own words).
So get cracking, work on yourself and then I shall instruct you.
End of message.
http://is.gd/etaedR
“The little terrorists, while ruining the lives of many children, did not target, injure or kill children”
Yes they did. There were children and a baby on board those flights.
Some people believe the west is the fount of all evil and can do no right. Not me though. However it can do a lot of wrong. Imtiaz Akhtar examines the new face of democratic fascism.
http://newsjunkiepost.com/2013/09/09/creeping-fascism-under-a-fog-of-morality/
Due credit to Komodo for stopping the village juvenile in his tracks with this classic;
“I’d cite your subsequent post as convincing evidence that you are indeed fourteen, Villager, except that there’s a good chance it will disappear…”
but why do we have to put up with this Habbu-Clown cluttering every thread with his demented trolling nonsense ??!!
“A good shepherd shears his sheep, he doesn’t skin them.” – Tiberius, Emperor of Rome
“A good shepherd steers his sheep, he doesn’t spin them,” – Obamirus, Phalanx of Drone
Having asked Habby:
“What’s your explanation for the West pulling back on this occasion?”
Habby comes back @6.18pm with no answer to the question, as per usual of course.
In this instance, why might that be?
Habby would clearly like readers to infer that it’s because the West is noble, merciful and humanitarian, but obviously feels unable to explicitly articulate such a position because she rightly anticipates the howls of derision from all who are only too well aware of the West’s crimes against humanity over many many years.
So, why would a bullying, plundering war monger like the West and its allies pull back?
It can’t just be the vote thing. That’s never bothered them before.
Is it just a tactical retreat?
Or have they finally come face to face with big bullies from the school across town, and now they’re just trying to save face with their own peeps.
Any more of this nonsense and perhaps even their own peeps will no longer fear them. Now that would be a result.
@ John Goss,
Q: However it can do a lot of wrong.
R: I’ve seen evil everywhere [every continent and every country I’ve traveled to], but I have to admit that the past few centuries the negative impact of the west’s expansionism and hunt for resources has had a very big impact on countries we dare to label 2nd or 3rd world countries.
The audacity of those willing to disunite this planet into various rings of lesser and less lesser units of mankind, never fails to baffle me, but hey, I’m that alien trying to comprehend the complexity rather than to fix the simplicity…
Oh , F! Wrong stage and wrong audience… – RIP, Bill Hicks.
Did Hillary ‘Arm those Mofu, BadAss, Serious Freedom Friers and oh, I got my own Liberty Medal, ehehehehehe…’ Rottingham Clingon, bet on the wrong horse again?
Come 2016… [sorry, I had to clean my screen after a lil in-house regurgitating session] … this woman will again try to occupy the WH in DC, Well, FY, beatch! Keep your in-laws happy during Hanukkah, not during your time in the former Black House [thank you, Brits]…
Keep this power hungry being far, far away from the reigns of more
terror…peace… power…In a short retort Mod will be directing you to write to Craig and tell him about it!!!!
This is getting like fucking Job centre plus around here, referral to higher authority. Just read the fucking thread and note the contribution of the fucking tossers, the best yet hasbawanker is issuing advisories to Jon This is how far sown the shitter this blog has been flushed to.
Funny that the reference to “paedophilia” by the culprits probably will not be deleted either. This state of affairs is fucking pitiful.
Hang on, in a minute the rest of the gang will be coming to the rescue of these ziofuckwits!
The one thing everyone seems to agree on/disagree with here is the moderation. I find it peculiar, especially as it is a service provided free which minimises disruption to the often interesting insights and information presented, but OK. So, before the next attack/appeal to the estimable Jon, what would you recommend?
1. No comments deleted/no-one banned
2. Comments offensive to another poster to be deleted
3. Comments which contain swearing to be deleted
4. Off-topic comments to be deleted.
Or what?
This, by contrast, is interesting (transcript underneath). Discussion of Obama’s last speech.
http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=10703
@ Fedup
Only 4 “fuckings” (and 1 “tosser”, 1 “wanker” and 1 “shitter”).
The pubs obviously haven’t closed yet!
NSA shares raw intelligence including Americans’ data with <b?Israel.
The only democrazy in the ME? Well, F me!
NSA shares raw intelligence including Americans’ data with Israel.
The only democrazy in the ME? Well, F me!
Sorry, Jon.
“This is getting like fucking Job centre plus around here, referral to higher authority.”
Many a slip ‘twixt cup and lip!
@ Nevermind :
“I’m not going to leave England just because it, our resident Germanophile, has a problem with Hanoverian not shagging enough, ask your sidekick, the villager.”
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Calm down, mein Lieber!
I wouldn’t ask you to, because the problem would not be solved by the arrival of people whose sperm count is probably as low as their intelligence.
This sounds an attempt to push for “laws”, as the Spaniards say; laws are good for the enemy. What should be the guiding principles are the degrees of disruption indulged in by the agents of reaction and supremacy.
Just note the constant complaints of one kirshnafuckwit who is constantly insulting other commenters in a none stop stream of derisory diatribes, what is the fucking value of such “contributions”? On the other hand pretentious and and devoid of any sense ramblings of a hasbawanker, what is the value if any in such a shit getting smeared all over the threads?
The fact is this is a free blog, and it costs the poor bastard whom was nearly killed because he stuck to his guns and did not want to collude or play the dirty game, and keep quiet in the face of torture, murder, and the apologists thereof. In fact it costs him money to run this blog probably.
However, to find this free corner of the cyberspace turned into the playground of the fucking ziofuckwits is just pitiful. Because of the perceived fears and self imposed limits and constraints, is just fucking pitiful.
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Hasbawanker you can count too!!!
What the fuck is wrong with being unemployed? Is there an apartheid against jobless too?
Piss off somewhere else if you don’t like to read/hear swear words!
“especially as it is a service provided free which minimises disruption to the often interesting insights and information presented”
So you must post at some exclusive Blogs if you are being charged for the moderating !
The whole point with the Habbu-Clown, and increasingly his little groomed disciple, is that their disruptions are NOT being minimized, just look at this thread for the latest example. It is in fact an insult to the others who post here ernestly & in good faith, that a text book troll & his hapless troll-like worshipper, are able to clutter-up, distract & derail thread after thread, with their tactics of starting arguments through insults & deliberate provocations, etc
I can’t think of any other Blog that would have tolerated a troll like the Habbu-Clown for so long; for sure he & his side-kick would not last even one day at Medialens;
http://www.medialens.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=727
And here’s another sensible moderating policy;
http://www.scriptonitedaily.com/comment-moderation-policy/
Habbabkuk, at 9:58pm. Thanks.
Well, Israel’s a complex question. Someone on this blog – I can’t recall who, I think perhaps it was Sofia but I cannot be sure – recently asked something like (I paraphrase), ‘Is Israel an island of democracy in a sea of dictatorships, or is it a state with no defined borders that oppresses people in an occupied land and engages in wars of aggression and expansion?’
And my brief answer to that was, “It’s both”. Wrt the Occupied Territories, it is an illegal police state. In Israel proper, it is a constitutional democracy with a free press. Amira Hass, for example, consistently can criticise the state and not find herself in gaol. But as we know, increasingly as the Right has gained ascendency, there has been a tendency towards discriminatory – arguably racist – legislation in Israel proper. And one cannot view Israel without looking at its occupation; to a large extent, it has defined itself through its occupation; and its ntransigent regional policy. There are supremacist issues too with the ideology of Zionism, though again, this is complex. Too complex for a brief blog post. As I suggested, the Arab and Iranian states, of course, are/were complex and varied as well.
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On a different matter, as for Passerby’s comment, somewhere earlier, that I am allowing others to ‘do the fighting’ wrt some or other comment, look, I really do appreciate people’s concern and commitment to raise such perceived issues as and when they arise. I don’t want to engage in constant squabbling. I also tend to give people the benefit of the doubt and accept sometimes that I am not wholly blameless or entirely tactful in various psycho-cyber dynamics. There is the lack of face-to-face, body language, voice, etc. It’s all just short bursts of words on a page.
Obviously, if someone’s overtly and/or persistently obnoxious then I will confront such behaviour and over the years contributing to this blog, I have done that where necessary.
I hadn’t twigged to the alleged significance of the word, “wily”, actually (I’d rather be wily than thick), though I did think the adjuration to “civilise” myself might be subject to various interpretations. I took it all more as more of a late-night lecture. I saw it as someone reacting to some provocations which I’d intended as humorous banter, i.e. ‘calm down’ and ‘do you need your eyes done?’ (in the context of a discussion of ophthalmology qualifications). I came late to a discussion which already was ‘hot ‘n’ heavy’ and almost pre-conditioned by even older architectonics. Because I’d not read through the entirety of the prior interaction, I mis-read the tone. Look, nobody’s perfect. Sometimes we all type daft things. I know I do. So, perhaps we all could’ve handled it better.
And so, the important critique of language has been raised, and noted. And thank you for the engagement and awareness. Now, I suggest that the discourse move on (as indeed it seems to have done). I hope no-one gets annoyed at me for saying all this. I certainly give Jon (and his bicycle) my full support. I don’t which of us would have his (voluntary, unpaid) ‘job’.
Nope, Fedup, I’m not pushing for laws. But there’s no point in wailing at Jon if one doesn’t actually know what equitable result one wants to get out of it. You (for one) seem to be arguing that Habbakuk and Villager should be banned, but not only could other people call for you to be banned (would you like that? I would not) this blog is well known for not banning (last ones were a stream of gibbering frothers years ago, as I remember).
Agree that the benefits of the questioning which Habbakuk originally seemed to open up have long since been replaced by embarrassing and tedious non sequiteurs, which in a way is a shame, Habbakuk. Villager: it’s quite clear that you are mainly attacking Mary, of course. May your god, whatever it is, go with you, because I swear, you’re not making an iota of difference to this reader. I will assume you are bored?
It’s also clear that the advice to ‘just ignore’ is not going to be followed by anyone on the receiving end. So, enjoy yourselves, I guess.
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/09/wall-street-journal-elizabeth-obagy-fired-96637.html
The Syria researcher whose Wall Street Journal op-ed piece was cited by Secretary of State John Kerry and Sen. John McCain during congressional hearings about the use of force has been fired from the Institute for the Study of War for lying about having a Ph.D., the group announced on Wednesday.
“The Institute for the Study of War has learned and confirmed that, contrary to her representations, Ms. Elizabeth O’Bagy does not in fact have a Ph.D. degree from Georgetown University,” the institute said in a statement. “ISW has accordingly terminated Ms. O’Bagy’s employment, effective immediately.”
lolrof What a complete joke. Isn’t the internet a wonderful thing…..
Hang on there, are you implying that the rest of us are not giving Jon our full support, and or appreciate his efforts?
The critique about moderation is not criticism of Jon. Further, I for one have gone on record lamenting the one sided moderation that is targeted at the reaction to these obnoxious fuckwits assigned to fuck up this blog. There is no shame in kicking these disruptive elements out. Just look around this thread and see how these agents of reaction and supremacy have been indulging in ever whim of their liking and so far none has been deleted. FFS now they are issuing guidance and advisories to Jon!
So stop conflating the issues and talking about the “free service” etc. Also you should have jumped in and kicked the fuck out of the racist bastards abusing you. There is no benefit of doubt, where these ziofuckwits are concerned.
Fedup, agreed about the Medialens policy if applied here (persistently addressing one poster etc particularly), though I think you might have some problems with the Scriptonite one 🙂 I have a problem with the word ‘forbidden’ myself.
Fedup: according to the guidelines you posted, could you please back up your assertion that the posters you obect to are ‘ziofuckwits’. Or that they have been ‘racist’. You do realise that you are perpetuating, and enhancing, the very behaviour you complain about, don’t you.