The Tony Blair House Journal (editor Alan Rusbridger) reports on Kanye West’s disgusting private performance for the Kazakh dictator and his family, and takes a sideswipe at David Cameron for visiting that country.
But peculiarly they fail to mention that Tony Blair receives US $4 million a year as a consultant to the worker murdering Kazakh dictator, and that Alistair Campbell and Jonathon Powell as well as Blair visit to give this support – which has included a behind the scenes campaign to help Nazarbaev win the Nobel Peace Prize, fortunately with no result to date.
Habby his phrase was ‘sword of truth’, i believe.
“My pen is my sword.”
“Didn’t Jonathan Aitken say that just before the trial which sent him down for a year or so?”
Yes, habby. Something like that.
But yes, I agree, very silly of Villager to say something like that.
Villager, well, Fromm put it at 10 percent, but I was allowing a margin for error. And thanks. Sorry you disagree, habbakuk – what are you basing this on?
@ Fedup (who is getting boring)
Jonathan Aitken, a Conservative junior minister, was sent down for perjury a decade or two ago.
“Sent down” = put into the nick = did time = was sent to prison.
And no, I wouldn’t harm you. I respect all creation, including insects.
@ Villager
You’re probably right. I seem to remember he used the images of a sword and a shield, but in any case his images were as trite as the ilmage used by our Insect friend.
So, Habbabkuk (still trying to get the spelling right), you count yourself in the 75 percent (or 90 percent if you go by Fromm/Villager). Why do you then have such an apparently jaundiced view?
I have been threatened with menaces, by these two individuals;
“My pen is my sword.”
And
WARNING #3 F-guy
These threats have caused me alarm and distress, I should like to know the relevant IP addresses so that I can take this matter up with my local police station.
Herbie, delighted to see you in agreement with Habby.
Anyway the original is “The pen is mightier than the sword”
Elucidated here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_pen_is_mightier_than_the_sword
“”The pen is mightier than the sword” is a metonymic adage indicating that communication, or in some interpretations, administrative power, is a more effective tool than direct violence. Some modern day sources (see examples listed below) use irony to humorously invert the original intent of the observation, often by a character using the quote after a pen has been used as a physical weapon.
The sentence (if not the idea, which had been expressed in various earlier forms) was coined by English author Edward Bulwer-Lytton in 1839 for his play Richelieu; Or the Conspiracy.[1][2] The play was about Cardinal Richelieu, though in the author’s words “license with dates and details… has been, though not unsparingly, indulged.”[1] The Cardinal’s line in Act II, scene II, was more fully:[3]
True, This! —
Beneath the rule of men entirely great
The pen is mightier than the sword. Behold
The arch-enchanters wand! — itself is nothing! —
But taking sorcery from the master-hand
To paralyse the Cæsars, and to strike
The loud earth breathless! — Take away the sword —
States can be saved without it!”
AND, interestingly:
“Assyrian sage Ahiqar, who reputedly lived during the early 7th century BC, coined the first known version of this phrase. One copy of the Teachings of Ahiqar, dating to about 500 BC, states that “The word is mightier than the sword.”[8]”
and so on and so forth….
@ Technicolour
You’re not sorry at all, you lying so-and-so 🙂
No, seriously, I could give you a rather long answer, but I wouldn’t want you to find me boring and repetitious, etc, as you apparently have recently (cf some recent posts of yours).
So’ll I’ll just give you a teaser : I don’t believe that most people in the real world- unlike most people active on this blog – think that the West (and Israel) are the fount of all evil. And if they do, they certainly don’t spend much time venting about it.
All for now, must gather my strength for meeting tomorrow’s challenges!
Good night to all!
before all this gets lost, it seems it’s all right to agree/disgree, even between friends. I think that this board generally reflects public opinion, Habbakuk does not, Villager does – yet Habbakuk agrees with Herbie – sweet.
The rightist World Net Daily, which correctly questions whether fiendish Assad gassed children, on its same pages remonstrates mightily with some leftist commentator who, on the very day of 9/11, America’s own sacred Holocaust, dared to say flight 93 was shot down by Cheney.
WND invokes the 9 11 Commission Report, as proof flight 93 was crashed by brave passengers thwarting hijackers. If they believe the government on one matter, why not on the other?
Everyone picks their jellybeans from the jar (a Reaganesque image), red or blue, as suits their beliefs and agenda.
Habby
It seems you’re still attributing to Fedup, something said by Villager.
“My pen is my sword.” is one of Villager’s efforts.
But let’s just see how long you continue the dishonesty.
Villager will have already noticed your error and is pretending otherwise. That’s to be epected.
Let’s just see how you get on.
habbabkuk: good night. Again, I think the idea that ‘Israel’ or ‘the USA’ being anything is ridiculously reductive and simplistic – of course, just as it was here in the Blair years, it is the decent majority at the mercy of a misguided minority. But these words are understandably used as shorthand: I try not to. Perhaps you are taking the shorthand too literally?
@ Fedup
“These threats have caused me alarm and distress, I should like to know the relevant IP addresses so that I can take this matter up with my local police station.”
__________________
I’d sober up a little before I went down to the station if I were you.
And for God’s sake don’t call the desk sergeant a Ziofuckwit!
Mugwump! (feel free to add that to the charge sheet)
ps – no, I was sorry! Why would you think that the majority are out to get you? Awful feeling, surely.
@ Herbie
Don’t get too excited, you haven’t just invented gunpowder.
It’s simple enough to be understood even by you : when Villager uses an expression like “my pen is my sword” he is referring to the incisive nature of his comments; when Fedup uses the same expression he is merely being ridiculous since, as he is to all extents and purposes illiterate, he is in effect saying he is defenceless.
Now get back under your rock.
Your friend Habbabkuk
I thought you were going to bed, Habbabkuk. Since you’re here, can you explain where your seemingly jaundiced view of humanity comes from?
Oh, habby
Villager, incisive. Really.
See. That’s what happens when you tell lies.
Your cover-up makes an even bigger tit of you than the original offense.
Should have just fessed up, but habits…
You better remember what I promised you, it, Schmarotzer!
Habby
You say of Fedup:
“he is to all extents and purposes illiterate”
“intents”, perhaps.
Oh dear.
Once you start down that road…
and yea; it disintegrates into more offensiveness. well done, boys!
Fedup.
Friend. To be threatened by the Laurel and Hardy of Hasbaraland is surely quite a badge of honour.
The fact that a pariah state whose army’s main expertise is shooting stone-throwing kids and dropping high explosives and white phosphorous on schools, now has to have an army of “public diplomats” to influence and derail the conversations of genuine internet users shows just how far they have lost the plot.
I used to ask myself what had we done on this blog to deserve such totally bloody useless trolls. Over the months my view has changed. This blog is very popular and I’d say influential, so it is inevitable that it will have a team of “public diplomats” allocated to derail it. For the same reason this team will be the best it can find.
Consider that! Be happy and proud!
C’mon Sofia; much as I love you, if you’re right about the motivation, the responses have been civilised/ factual/rising above provocation – not.
sorry – probably wouldn’t have made a difference any how.
So Sofia tacitly approves (and maybe even embraces?) of this intimidation of me:
Fedup
12 Sep, 2013 – 11:31 pm
“Thanks for that laugh, you do have a wicked sense of humour.
Villagecunt is back and trying its luck again, looks like he has not got the fucking message yet. ”
http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2013/09/blair-and-kanye-west-are-prostitutes/comment-page-8/#comment-429127
whatever. thinking aloud again, good night.
30 mins distraction from the trolls here,
http://rt.com/shows/crosstalk/syria-putin-obama-us-807/
Any comments?
…
And some perennial wisdom
“It is because peaceful agitation and passive resistance are effective that I uphold them, and it is because force strengthens tyranny that I condemn it. War and Authority are companions; Peace and Liberty are companions. It is foolish in the extreme not only to resort to force before necessity compels, but especially to madly create the conditions that will lead to this necessity.”
—Benjamin Tucker, 1886
Huh? Sofia, do you approve of:
“Villagecunt is back and trying its luck again, looks like he has not got the fucking message yet. ”
I guess you don’t. So what to do?
Maybe only to say, Villager, I don’t. So: I don’t.
And then how does his name calling of Hasbawanker stack up with this:
“Fedup
12 Sep, 2013 – 12:11 am
Techincolour,
You are making a mountain out of a mole hill!
….
To start passing laws and constituting this and that, is only curtailing our own freedoms, when we can see the track records.Down the pub if someone calls me a wanker, other than those whom I permit in jest or fun, will soon be swallowing his fucking teeth. Cyberspace is different, and thus wankers can rain shit and then run to Mod.”