The Tony Blair House Journal (editor Alan Rusbridger) reports on Kanye West’s disgusting private performance for the Kazakh dictator and his family, and takes a sideswipe at David Cameron for visiting that country.
But peculiarly they fail to mention that Tony Blair receives US $4 million a year as a consultant to the worker murdering Kazakh dictator, and that Alistair Campbell and Jonathon Powell as well as Blair visit to give this support – which has included a behind the scenes campaign to help Nazarbaev win the Nobel Peace Prize, fortunately with no result to date.
A Node
“You (Kempe) make unsubstantiated smears, respond with bluster when asked to justify them, then drop the topic before your credibility is too damaged. This is the third time I’ve caught you out, and I’m only an occasional visitor to this blog.”
Yup. Those are the tactics of them all, and everyone who has engaged them in discussion has found the same thing.
I see habby’s done a runner from questions again too. Waste of space.
It really is very unfair that people who wish to engage in genuine discussion and exploration of issues have to deal with these clowns, their supporters and hangers-on. And that’s even before we consider their more offensive activities.
I can only conclude that Craig couldn’t care less about the health of the comments section, or perhaps he’s just trying to dumb it down before a quick IPO.
Has anyone come across this:
(it is ancient knowledge, and has been around for years).
You may be punk’d by the Pentagon
And then there is:
Air Force ordered software to manage army of fake virtual people
Further if US can do it, sure as the day is light zionistan will be at the forefront and over taking US in application of this genre of clandestine spamming and targeting.
Given the status of armatures targeting this blog, note the frequency of the posts and the personae involved in the transactions. Fact that almost without a failure certain individuals tend to come in clusters and apparently know each other from somewhere else, as well as the constant thrust of their arguments, and their styles of transactions should give a clue as to the identity of the same culprit masquerading as many different persona.
Bon Saturday peeps.
Is it too optimistic to suggest the rhetoric coming from Kerry and Lavrov this morning is at least a beginning of real, grown up diplomcy between the US, Russia and potentially the rest of the global community? Of course hidden behind this rhetoric are the medium and long term interests of each nation which may, nay will, involve pretty unpleasant measures; NSA snooping, arming extremists, quelling dissent, supporting dictators etc.etc. Could it be that Obama, Kerry, Putin and Lavrov are the ‘back-four’ we’ve been waiting for? William Vague will be way out of his depth with these boys!
abc australia presenter, geraldine doogue, has been long-admired as a journo, with a religious/spiritual bent (& the voice to go with it!)especially by those on the left, but u need to hear this almost obscene interview with american Campbell – CFR/fmr State Dept guy, now a Distinguished International Fellow (ugh!) at australa’s (Frank) Lowy Institute – to realise how morally bankrupt the media is today. all she is concerned about is american power, espcially obama power. not surprised abc has not yet put up the transcript. they probably never will, but her listeners seem as shocked as i was when i heard the interview:
14 Sept: ABC Saturday Extra with Geraldine Doogue: Kurt Campbell on disarming Syria
FROM THE COMMENTS:
– I was also shocked by Geraldine’s war mongering rhetoric – shame on you – taunting America to be a bully in the playground, without acknowledging that perhaps they may finally be capable of showing wise council and leadership.
– Geraldine Doogue begins this segment by reminding us about the ‘blatant and what increasingly many people now regard as obvious use of chemical weapons by the Assad regime’. What a deceptive way to open the program.
– Geraldine, Geraldine, Geraldine !
Your rather frivlous laughter at the end of the interview had me cringing.
http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/saturdayextra/disarming-syria/4954256
Geraldine Doogue
Quite aside from her role in print media and broadcasting, her personal involvement in ethical, spiritual and religious issues is extensive, and ranges from talks on spirituality in pubs to major involvement in conferences for large corporations…
http://www.abc.net.au/compass/about/doogue.htm
@Passerby 12 04am
Point taken.
But they’re still bloody useless.
They couldn’t organize a barbeque on a goat farm.
Sofia Said;
Agreed, breweries are out of bound due to the age limitations etc. The next best place would be goat farms, given the proclivities for droppings, pats, etc. that has been so manifestly on display?
More importantly tough there could be a joint effort to smoke these out, as the last nights shindig somewhat has already smoked certain characters out!
Also the day shift seems to be engaged too, so best smoke these out too, while there is a hot issue afoot.
Sofia KN
I referred to “standard interests” as not explaining anything. Those standard interests include intelligence of what’s going on within a region, at least for the purpose of knowing that no major threats are developing. The Islamist threats that Herbie mentioned I consider an ongoing standard interest – but none of that explains (I think) what role Russia is playing or will play.
As I stated, there is value in obstructing US ventures for false reasons – ie leverage.
@Passerby. Again.
I thought this might help.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antipredator_adaptation#Predator_Recognition
Since they are part of the multi-layered blog ecology we may as well adapt to their presence.
And they do keep us alert and entertained.
Must go. Have a good day at the blog-face.
Phil,
You really aren’t aware of your own hypocrisy, are you? I don’t make a habit of pouring sugary sympathy on self-pitying losers who call me “wanker”, “cunt” or falsely accuse me of gloating or my writing as nasty bile. Why don’t you re-read your own posts for some self-revelation.
I am not your friend and nor are you mine. I would never have an arrogant, uneducated, surly churl like you as a friend. No thank you.
If you want to go down this path of pre-emptively abusing me when the urge overtakes you, go ahead. I will respond accordingly and take every opportunity of exposing you up for the pathetic class-obsessed, hate-filled toad that you are.
… Or you can talk about ideas – if you can. But please don’t direct your comments at me, that would be a waste of both my time and yours.
“The Islamist threats that Herbie mentioned I consider an ongoing standard interest – but none of that explains (I think) what role Russia is playing or will play.”
It’s an interest that’s directly threatened should Syria balkanize in a way that undermines Russian influence in the territory. That would be quite a retreat for Russia.
What you seem to be forgetting here is that the Syrian conflict is one instigated in the West’s interest.
The Russians didn’t incite it. On the contrary they’re trying to stop its progress.
Herbie, I agree. But even if Russia loses all influence in the ME, that would not impact on their intelligence, only their capacity to respond to threats from within the region. I don’t think the Americans want to foment trouble for the Russians to the extent that the Russians want to exert influence in the region.
See Gary Kasparov’s tweets for other interesting opinions. Liked this one:
“hope Putin has taken adequate protections. Now that he is a Russian journalist his life may be in grave danger!”
Technicolour said;
Even more interesting would be to buy a trepanning kit to while away the lonely long winter nights/weekends perhaps?
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Putin Steps Into World Leadership Role
http://sherriequestioningall.blogspot.co.uk/2013/09/china-accuses-israel-being-behind-lies.html
and from Russell – and Noel, good grief:
Foreign secretary William Hague gave an award to former Telegraph editor Charles Moore, for writing a hagiography of Margaret Thatcher, who used his acceptance speech to build a precarious connection between my comments about the sponsors, my foolish answerphone scandal at the BBC and the Sachs family’s flight, 70 years earlier from Nazi-occupied Europe. It was a confusing tapestry that Moore spun but he seemed to be saying that a) the calls were as bad as the Holocaust and b) the Sachs family may not’ve sought refuge in Britain had they known what awaited them. Even for a man whose former job was editing the Telegraph this is an extraordinary way to manipulate information.
Noel, who is not one to sit quietly on his feelings, literally booed while Charles Moore was talking and others joined in. Booing! When do you hear booing in this day and age other than pantomimes and parliament? Hague and Johnson are equally at home in either (Widow Twanky and Buttons, obviously) so were not unduly ruffled, but I thought it was nuts. The room by now had a distinct feel of “us and them” and if there is a line drawn in the sand I don’t ever want to find myself on the same side as Hague and Johnson. Up went Noel to garner his gong and he did not disappoint: “Always nice to be invited to the Tory party conference,” he began, “Good to see the foreign secretary present when there’s shit kicking off in Syria.”
http://www.theguardian.com/culture/2013/sep/13/russell-brand-gq-awards-hugo-boss
“Most of Putin’s critics are too intellectually challenged to comprehend that Putin’s brilliant and humane article has left Putin the leader of the free world and defender of the rule of law”
Oh I see, you mean ‘intellectually challenged as in ‘dead’, don’t you?
I would ask if you’ve been to/read about/done any research at all into Chechnya,but it’s quite clear you haven’t.
Technicolour sputtered;
Do extend the curtsey of the reply to the source, won’t you?
Seems you are in too much of a hurry even to acknowledge the source, and only interested in a reply, however, inane and pointless it may prove to be!
War Crimes Investigator Censored
Splutter? I love that word. Perhaps if you would like to make your sources clear, Passerby, you might put them in quotes and attribute them underneath, because otherwise, don’t you know, it reads really almost entirely exactly as though you typed it yourself.
Jemand
“I don’t think the Americans want to foment trouble for the Russians to the extent that the Russians want to exert influence in the region.”
Yet, that’s what’s happening right now, and that would be a criticism that Brzezinski would make too.
Technicolour countermove;
(blame the style)
The data forwarded were denoted in block quotes, if you cannot discern that perhaps you need to find out why? (an interesting coincidence)
Could it be lack of attention to detail?
could it be unawareness of protocols of communication?
In any case you need to search for the answers first, before scurrying, to denote, yet another inane and pointless comment!
“denoted in block quotes” – er no. There were three hash tag things between what was apparently a quote and the paragraph I understood to be yours, understandably, viz:
“Included among the squealing stuck pigs are Human Rights Watch bloggers who seem to be financed out of the CIA’s back pocket.
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Most of Putin’s critics are too intellectually challenged to comprehend that Putin’s brilliant and humane article has left Putin the leader of the free world and defender of the rule of law and exposed obama for what he is–the leader of a rogue, lawless, unaccountable government committed to lies and war crimes.”
but if it gives you an excuse to be rude, who am I to repine? Otherwise, and interestingly, are you saying you disagree with the non-quote that wasn’t yours?
Technicolour,
Passerby clearly used blockquotes and linked to the source. I would suggest a course in reading comprehension if you are still having difficulty with this.
“They will stand between the US and a target, waiting for a payoff to move out the way.”
$20 billion and oil deals was offered by Prince Bandit from Saudi Arabia and refused by Russian President Vladimir Putin.
Pushed back Prince Bandit implied the Sochi winter olympics could be disrupted by acts of terrorism.
This threat is backed by CIA and Saudi bankrolling of Chechen Islamist militant Dokka Abu Usman.
Expect us Usman.
Prick Jemand!
http://www.kavkazcenter.com/eng/content/2009/05/14/10695.shtml
“Prick Jemand!”
???
Mel ‘Gobshite’ Gibson 14 Sep, 2013 – 1:17 pm
It’s a significant gesture when the Chinese government uses it’s state news website to accuse Israel of being behind the war in Iraq and trying to do the same in Syria. The link you provide is a bit clumsy. It shows a video of a woman called ‘Sherrie’ laboriously scrolling down a web page, reading out the interesting bits.
Here’s a link to the original Chinese website.
http://english.people.com.cn/90777/8397501.html
As a bonus, you will see that the article refers to Craig’s blog post on the subject:
Sigh. My advice to ignore posters of provocative and snide comments (e.g. “I would suggest a course in reading comprehension”) still stands. It is entirely possible of course, for people who disagree substantially across the left-right divide, to be civil with each other. It always has been.
There was a point where I’d make the effort to delete the abuse heaped on anyone here (including resident contrarians) but frankly the abuse going in various directions from several people is too negative and depressing to spend any time on. It is nearly unmoderatable. I’ll pop in periodically to make sure the cogs are turning, I suppose, but in the meantime, anyone planning on abusing others is, err, invited to go for a walk outside instead.
I understand that it is hard to tear oneself away, I really do. But the point where one becomes dependent on the little community here is the time when the computer needs to be turned off for a day. Don’t worry about it, is the motto! It is only a blog.
On ad hominem: attempting to inflict emotional harm on an opponent through the medium of cutting insults seems to be regarded here as a shortcut to winning a debate – chasing ones opponent away becomes a substitute for reasoned, logical discourse. Since many people here have been keen to see de-escalation of threats in the international sphere, it would be good to see the same practised locally too.
(There was an exchange between Villager/Fedup in which some ill-considered comments were misinterpreted as a threat of violence. I’ve deleted them.)
AlcAnon/Brian; You’ve probably seen this. Up dated 8/5
http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr=2007%20FT3;orb=1;cov=0;log=0;cad=1#cad
Habbabkuk, 14 Sep 10.22am
“On the contrary, I think this is a significant line of enquiry, and interesting.”
Thanks, Habbabkuk. If you chance across anything that supports or refutes this theory, even as an off-topic aside on a newer thread, please post a link or other reference wherever I might see it, thanks.
Thank-you ‘A Node’ – I have reposted your link.
Well then I’m an even more occasional visitor and have better things to do on a Saturday, even a dreary dull grey one like today. I don’t see any point in responding to a post that is several hours old and which may have disappeared onto a previous page but if you want to press the point.
The facts, and Gorgeous George, speak for themselves. He claimed (asserted or theorised, take your pick) that Israel supplied AQ with chemical weapons. Logic told him so. Then denied saying it in Parliament. I noticed he didn’t answer the point when questioned about it but changed the subject and said the same logic now told him that it was Saudi Arabia!
Any thoughts about his condemnation of Saudi Arabia’s “head chopping and hand chopping” and the “head chopping and hand chopping” of his paymasters in Tehran?