Ray McGovern and the Sam Adams party have presented the Sam Adams award to Edward Snowden. I am delighted. This from Ray’s account of the event:
In brief remarks from his visitors, Snowden was reassured — first and foremost — that he need no longer be worried that nothing significant would happen as a result of his decision to risk his future by revealing documentary proof that the U.S. government was playing fast and loose with the Constitutional rights of Americans.
Even amid the government shutdown, Establishment Washington and the normally docile “mainstream media” have not been able to deflect attention from the intrusive eavesdropping that makes a mockery of the Fourth Amendment. Even Congress is showing signs of awaking from its torpor.
In the somnolent Senate, a few hardy souls have gone so far as to express displeasure at having been lied to by Director of National Intelligence James Clapper and NSA Director Keith Alexander — Clapper having formally apologized for telling the Senate Intelligence Committee eavesdropping-related things that were, in his words, “clearly erroneous” and Alexander having told now-discredited whoppers about the effectiveness of NSA’s intrusive and unconstitutional methods in combating terrorism.
Coleen Rowley, the first winner of the Sam Adams Award (2002), cited some little-known history to remind Snowden that he is in good company as a whistleblower — and not only because of previous Sam Adams honorees. She noted that in 1773, Benjamin Franklin leaked confidential information by releasing letters written by then-Lt. Governor of Massachusetts Thomas Hutchinson to Thomas Whatley, an assistant to the British Prime Minister.
The letters suggested that it was impossible for the colonists to enjoy the same rights as subjects living in England and that “an abridgement of what are called English liberties” might be necessary. The content of the letters was so damaging to the British government that Benjamin Franklin was dismissed as colonial Postmaster General and had to endure an hour-long censure from British Solicitor General Alexander Wedderburn.
There has been a determined attempt by government to justify the need to intercept everybody’s communications, all the time. We have, yet again, had MI5 claim there are many thousand violent Islamic terrorists running around the UK, (yet somehow not managing to kill anybody). The cry of “paedophiles” is raised, as always. I can imagine them suggesting the entire population be shot dead, and justifying it as making sure they get the paedophiles. The tabloids would go with that.
There still had not been a single credible claim by the mainstream media that any named individual has died, despite that contingency being trotted out all the time as the reason Snowden and Manning should not have revealed state crimes and abuse of power. I am hopeful that, with the internet still largely free to the dissemination of information, out next massive whistleblower is only weeks away.
Fed up
Clearly we can add blatant sexism and misogyny to your many other faults on the strength of your last post – you are clearly someone who needs to get in touch with their feminine side as a matter of some urgency.
” Why are you panicking there are no watchers/adjudicators to watch/adjudicate?”
Jebus, Fedup. Do you enjoy the anarchy? I’m saying that while the cat’s away, the mice will play.
Surely you don’t want to have open season on everyone you hate.
“It’s so easy to get so many people attacking each other.”
It’s a Burning Man Erection contest. Let’s cordone off 100 acres in Herefordshire, give each entrant a cricket bat and let them have at it.
Just desserts.
Technicolour: “Dreoilin, whose been posting on this blog since 2005, is showered with abuse and not a word from anyone else, even longer term posters, who might be expected to object, if only on the grounds of accuracy.”
Perhaps I should refresh your memory about the months long bullying campaign against Mary, by a vicious tag-team, that you sometimes assisted with your snide & empty-headed snarks; yes no one objected until things very got so bad, that even our hands-off laid-black ex-moderator was moved to say something, rather too little too late though; in all this time, not only did the long term posters say nothing, but a select few, including yourself, even joined in in these troll pack attacks; most others just pretended not to notice anything, and some even continued to exchange small talk nonsense with the leading abusive troll.
Dreoilin: “There is of course one person here who is capable of telling Macky, Fedup and Passerby that they’re 100% wrong. That I’m not some sort of pro-Zionist wolf in the sheep’s clothing of an IPSC supporter.”
I’m well aware that Fedup has inferred that you, Villager & Technicolor, are crpto-Zionist supporters, and I never have because I don’t believe that; having stated that however, he is right is the sense that your petty malice towards, and at times, empty-headed digs at Mary, only provide diversion & division, fuel & encouragement for the real crypto-Zionists attacking Mary, so yes, in this way you are aiding these Zionists supporters because of your unwarrented animosity towards Mary.
“Go on then, where are your other points?”
Blame my other half, not easy when you have to fight for lap-top time !
Ben, why cricket bats? If we gave them assault rifles, and a small, standardised quantity of ammo each, they’d at least have to learn to be selective.
Or if we’re trying to limit the damage inflicted, they could have those enormous cotton-bud things they supply on physical game-shows.
Custard pies!
I always seem to be in favour of de-escalation. Damn. I’ll never be fashionable.
Macky; The bonfire needs more accelerant. Douse us liberally. That’s the ticket.
“Blame my other half, not easy when you have to fight for lap-top time !”
Which ‘lap’ you “very got so bad” MacKlown? 🙂
“Perhaps I should refresh your memory about the months long bullying campaign against Mary, by a vicious tag-team, that you sometimes assisted with your snide & empty-headed snarks”
Well, well, we certainly are getting an interesting insight into the inner mental workings and tactics of the far left. Or is it right?
A pie-eating contest. Why didn’t I think of that? We could set up a carnival atmosphere making clowns of all the clowning clowners. Carnival barkers galore! Everyone could have their own shell-game and stand-up routines with canned audiences hired in advance to applaud and guffaw at the comedic brilliance of every poster needing a little self-confidence.
All funds raised to go to a variety of charities, chosen in advance, according to the narcissism most vocal and acerbic.
Sounds like a riot of fun and games.
You have no fucking idea about feminism, best for you to shut the fuck up!
Feminism you are inferring to, along with the rest of the isms you shove around are basically for making whores out of women, and commodifying them to be slung around on the bonnet of the super cars and the arms of old fucking fossils with Viagra drip stuck in their aorta, next to their fucking pace maker.
True feminists would be fucking kicking your type up the gonads and shoving poles up your uptight arse and planting it around the town square.
Villager: “Which ‘lap’ you “very got so bad” MacKlown?”
I know it’s hard for a juvenile, but do try not to soil your underwear over every typo.
Technicolor you force me to be unkind when I have to point out the irony of you of all people writing “interesting insight”.
Come on now, Clark, you were sniping and back-biting with the best of them during that heated immigration debate of a year or so ago. For all the peace & love crap you really do like to see yourself as above everyone else.
As I watch the crimson horizon, flames licking the remaining fuel I see a silhouette of Habakuk, musing over his victory and dining on his self-congratulatory meal of aggrandizement.
But the point of evolution is just that. The current stale arrangements are so easy to corrupt and so easy to circumvent. The last Mod, was in fact colluding (knowingly/deliberately or otherwise, who can say?) with these ziofuckwits, and the results were the frequent ziofuckwit farrago.
I have more respect for Craig, despite the pressures which were piled on him to introduce “rules and regulations” and his refusal to do so. Fact that Dreo the long service medal holder was not too happy with Craig, along with the rest of the tag team clearly pointed in the direction of controlling a single source is a lot more fucking easier than controlling a whole bunch Fedups!
Nothing wrong with anarchy, humanity is at a stage that each individual member can think for themselves, and decide for themselves autonomously. The game theory proves this time and again. So chill out and enjoy the ride of the newest of the world order. It is coming, what do you think Mark Golding is on about?
“you really do like to see yourself as above everyone else.”
Hmm. You see that as a high bar, do you?
Anon, I reconsidered.
“As I watch the crimson horizon, flames licking the remaining fuel I see a silhouette of Habakuk, musing over his victory and dining on his self-congratulatory meal of aggrandizement.”
Perhaps on the contrary, this is exactly the didactic clearing the air free speech that is needed now, to burn away all the deceitfulness & small mindedness, so that this Blog will emerge phoenix like from the flames, in better shape than before.
” what do you think Mark Golding is on about?”
I can’t speak for Mark, but I think he would default to ‘intention’ and non-violence in word and deed.
Fed up
And would your true feminists be allowed to say anything to you at all about the manner in which you spoke to one of their sisters? Or to point out to you that you have some problems with anger management and the manner with which you communicate in public circles?
Ben that is so fucking funny and to the point! I had a good laugh.
Clark you are not suppose to do that, life is a static affair as in the world of mollusques, stick to an idea (right or wrong) to the day that you die, or alzheimer gets you first.
Resident Dissident, could you help me with some of the concerns I posted yesterday please?:
http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2013/10/edward-snowden-gets-sam-adams-award/comment-page-6/#comment-434291
That is exactly the fucking point, you have no fucking idea about feminism, you are talking as in; tribalism, football supporterism, hanging out with the gangism, ……. Along with The Eddy Bernays bag of tricks for conning women into becoming whores and the eternal underclass notions of; “liberty, freedom and happiness” all trade marks, and brands of course.
Hans plays with Lotte, Lotte plays with Jane
Jane plays with Willi, Willi is happy again
Suki plays with Leo, Sacha plays with Britt
Adolf builts a bonfire, Enrico plays with it
-Whistling tunes we hid in the dunes by the seaside
-Whistling tunes we’re kissing baboons in the jungle
It’s a knockout
If looks could kill, they probably will
In games without frontiers-war without tears
Games without frontiers-war without tears
Fedup,
“I have more respect for Craig”
what do you have to say about the fact that Craig asked you to change your tone or clear off? Why did you ignore him?
“It was a pleasure to burn.
It was a special pleasure to see things eaten, to see things blackened and changed. With the brass nozzle in his fists, with this great python spitting its venomous kerosene upon the world, the blood pounded in his head, and his hands were the hands of some amazing conductor playing all the symphonies of blazing and burning to bring down the tatters and charcoal ruins of history. With his symbolic helmet numbered 451 on his stolid head, and his eyes all orange flame with the thought of what came next, he flicked the igniter and the house jumped up in a gorging fire that burned the evening sky red and yellow and black. He strode in a swarm of fireflies. He wanted above all, like the old joke, to shove a marshmallow on a stick in the furnace, while the flapping pigeon-winged books died on the porch and lawn of the house. While the books went up in sparkling whirls and blew away on a wind turned dark with burning.”
Here’s something intriguing. …
Following the debt ceiling vote which re-opened the US governement, the official stenographer of the House of Representatives marched up to the podium and shouted stuff about freemasons. First, here’s how the Daily Mail reported it:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2464079/House-stenographer-starts-yelling-God-right-debt-ceiling-crisis-averted.html
That’s pretty much how the mainstream media have been spinning this bizarre incident. Now watch this short video from Truthstream Video who have analysed the available video and sound recordings. Very strange.
This is definitely worth stopping squabbling for and checking out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yfOhwF0DV8
How Jewish is Hollywood?
Jews DO control the media.
Oh, stop being so modest…
@ Clark,
Q: I always seem to be in favour of de-escalation. Damn. I’ll never be fashionable.
R: Those two Russian Spetnaz guys in Canada never used the word ‘fighting.’ It was always ‘neutralize tension.’
Now, which way to the sewers again?
Where you lying fuckwit? You lying bastard, you are making it up.
A Node or anyone.
Who is the unidentified individual she is talking to immediately before the outburst? Ether a politician or staff member presumably. Someone must know who he is. Intriguing.
A Node, did you notice the almost automaton/zombie departure and walk to the podium?