Ray McGovern and the Sam Adams party have presented the Sam Adams award to Edward Snowden. I am delighted. This from Ray’s account of the event:
In brief remarks from his visitors, Snowden was reassured — first and foremost — that he need no longer be worried that nothing significant would happen as a result of his decision to risk his future by revealing documentary proof that the U.S. government was playing fast and loose with the Constitutional rights of Americans.
Even amid the government shutdown, Establishment Washington and the normally docile “mainstream media” have not been able to deflect attention from the intrusive eavesdropping that makes a mockery of the Fourth Amendment. Even Congress is showing signs of awaking from its torpor.
In the somnolent Senate, a few hardy souls have gone so far as to express displeasure at having been lied to by Director of National Intelligence James Clapper and NSA Director Keith Alexander — Clapper having formally apologized for telling the Senate Intelligence Committee eavesdropping-related things that were, in his words, “clearly erroneous” and Alexander having told now-discredited whoppers about the effectiveness of NSA’s intrusive and unconstitutional methods in combating terrorism.
Coleen Rowley, the first winner of the Sam Adams Award (2002), cited some little-known history to remind Snowden that he is in good company as a whistleblower — and not only because of previous Sam Adams honorees. She noted that in 1773, Benjamin Franklin leaked confidential information by releasing letters written by then-Lt. Governor of Massachusetts Thomas Hutchinson to Thomas Whatley, an assistant to the British Prime Minister.
The letters suggested that it was impossible for the colonists to enjoy the same rights as subjects living in England and that “an abridgement of what are called English liberties” might be necessary. The content of the letters was so damaging to the British government that Benjamin Franklin was dismissed as colonial Postmaster General and had to endure an hour-long censure from British Solicitor General Alexander Wedderburn.
There has been a determined attempt by government to justify the need to intercept everybody’s communications, all the time. We have, yet again, had MI5 claim there are many thousand violent Islamic terrorists running around the UK, (yet somehow not managing to kill anybody). The cry of “paedophiles” is raised, as always. I can imagine them suggesting the entire population be shot dead, and justifying it as making sure they get the paedophiles. The tabloids would go with that.
There still had not been a single credible claim by the mainstream media that any named individual has died, despite that contingency being trotted out all the time as the reason Snowden and Manning should not have revealed state crimes and abuse of power. I am hopeful that, with the internet still largely free to the dissemination of information, out next massive whistleblower is only weeks away.
Villager/Technicolour is all the time so what the fuck does it matter?
Now fucking divining, and fortune telling, next will be foretelling fuck knows what?
“next will be foretelling fuck knows what?”
Passerby and Fedup talking with each other.
Technicolour
13 Oct, 2013 – 12:35 am
“This looks potentially positive/interesting/uplifting/upsetting – haven’t checked it out (it’s late):
http://www.foodfirst.org/en/GMO+corn+banned+in+Mexico ”
Thanks for that TC — very interesting read and highly encouraging, if true and actually effected.
I tried googling Mexico GMO in News though and nothing comes up to corroborate. Do please keep a look out…
Our very sick little puppy said
“Habbabkuk, I think Oddie would like prominent Jews to wear a little Jewish badge for easy identification. Welcome back by the way.”
How much rubbish can you write in one sentence? I suppose these twatter trained 140 character jokers do believe they own this site and are hell bent on destroying it with their ad hominems.
Banned clowns seemingly addicted to Craig murrays like flies too a pile of dogshit? payed stooges who contribute nothing but spite and bile.
Why only prominant Jews Anon, you filth stirer?, and why not include the have’s, all those scroungers who hate Britain so much that they flee to tax havens, show how much social responsibility they really have.
Lets note that these tax evaders who hate their country so much need to be pummeled with knighthoods and honours, given accolade to use a toilet here in britain rather than the T&C.
Those who hide behind international agreements to siphon billions past the exchequer should have a cross permanently tattoed to their foreheads, these utter swines should have their business natinalised and their markets withdrawn.
It is time for a revolution, nothing else will stop this undemocratic rot, time to tell those who hate Britain enough to avoid taxes, that they cannot school their children here, or sell their goods, or go shopping at Harrods for their xmas hampers, that they are not welcome and that limited protectionismn, has been tailored to suit them alone.
Nobody who relies on British schools, the NHS, a pirateering City of London, bendy politicians and Kendal mint cakes to stimulate their sordid lifes, whilst trying their best to not pay for any of societies needs, should expect any mercy, pay your taxes or go and sell your coffee, flights,whatever, somewhere else.
You want to leave the City of London because you don’t want your bnuses curtailed? well go, piss off to Frankfurt or New York, see if they haven’t got enough bwankers there. Bye bye, I say.
For George Osborne to steal/use taxpayers money to sue the EU for daring to tell the City to get their act together on bonuses, stop the stress and drug taking at the centre of so many dealing rooms were it is an incentive/necessity to get brainfucked for an extra six hours work on top of a three day shift, is the most obscene measure ever seen used by a chancellor.
This nonchalance towards millionaires and the leniency shown towards bankers, newspaper editors, so called entrepeneurs who hate Britain and don’t pay taxes here, rather favouring state support for new Swiss cowbells, has been widely noted and it is to be seen how many more fairytales they can land on to the now suspecting public, before they have enough of the troughing and act.
So Mr. Murphy, off course as a FoI leading schmuck he did not loose his job in Ed’s cabinet reshuffle, headed another of these cheap group activity holidays, paid for by Israel? or us the taxpayer, to the occupied territories of East Jerusalem, the Syrian Golan hights and the west bank.
We have to realise that this country has a better relationship with Israel than with any of their EU neighbours, it is part of a triumvirate that ignores its needs for the sake of conspiracy.
Should limited protectionism be used to bring errant countries into line, economic necessities be used to negotiate and calm the warmongering nations?
“seemingly addicted to Craig murrays like flies too a pile of dogshit?”
A rather unfortunate analogy, wouldn’t you say?
Q: “How much rubbish can you write in one sentence? ”
A: This much:
“For George Osborne to steal/use taxpayers money to sue the EU for daring to tell the City to get their act together on bonuses, stop the stress and drug taking at the centre of so many dealing rooms were it is an incentive/necessity to get brainfucked for an extra six hours work on top of a three day shift, is the most obscene measure ever seen used by a chancellor.”
and
“This nonchalance towards millionaires and the leniency shown towards bankers, newspaper editors, so called entrepeneurs who hate Britain and don’t pay taxes here, rather favouring state support for new Swiss cowbells, has been widely noted and it is to be seen how many more fairytales they can land on to the now suspecting public, before they have enough of the troughing and act.”
As Glenn_uk once asked another “are you anti-semantic” or something?
Hi Nevermind!
A forceful post as ever. Who was that American serial killer and rapist you compared me to, merely for holding opinions different to yours? Quite the sick little puppy!
“Banned clowns seemingly addicted to Craig murrays like flies too a pile of dogshit?”
I can live with being likened to a fly, but I hope you will apologise to Craig for comparing his blog to a pile of dogshit.
Now, you take umbrage at my post about Oddie. He wonders aloud why the media doesn’t inform us that various prominent people are Jewish. Is it really “filth-stirring” to suggest that Oddie might like to see Jews wear little star of david lapel badges for ease of identification, if the MSM keeps failing to inform him?
“Habbabkuk, I think Oddie would like prominent Jews to wear a little Jewish badge for easy identification. Welcome back by the way.”
“Thank you for your welcome back!
If you’re correct, then I think I’ll try to attract some venture capital to set up a business manufacturing such badges, because there are certainly a lot of Jews prominent in various walks of life.”
Surely your venture capitalists would suggest star and crescent badges, perhaps in yellow and sewn on, as more appropriate to the times.
& Habbabkuk, you are a hypocritical piece of shit. Last time you were here, as an authorised commenter, as part of your relentless bullying you called a regular contributor here a “self-righteous obsessive poster”.
Now who’s the obsessive one. You can’t keep away, though you’ve been banned. So desperately obsessed with posting here are you that you’ve even tried the deceit of sock puppeting to get back in. You creep.
I agree with oddie that those who profess that they are our representatives in Parliament, activeley split their loyaties 60/40 in favour of Israel, a non EU country and rogue state in more than one sense, they all should be held responsible for their actions.
They do not need any specific atire, their actins speak for themselves as they are not in the in terest of our British foreign policy but soome concocted dream induced by some very nationalistic zionists who misuse their power, relationships and money to divert our interest to suit their needs.
I do not differentiate the ransosn from the Murphy’s, they both need reigning in and made to believe in what they represent.
‘Oye, ransom Branson, kite oarding, record ballon flights and putting your name behind the decriminalisation/legalisation of cannbis is not enough to make you hip, try paying your taxes in Britain, boare, or loose your market’
Never shall I use virgin, ever! in my own small way, sorted!
apolgiese for my fast typing mistakes.
Our foreign relations are being distorted and undermined by Israels con nivance. Liars are fettered for high office whilst those who speak the truth are hounded and denigrated as spies, put in prison for ‘hurting our operatives and men in the field’
Lies heaped upon lies, amplified by the BBC over and over again, last heard on Dimbleby’s ‘any answers’R4, as a justification to clamp down on those who speak out aout the damage don e to us in the name of….. more controlling dreams.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/12/edward-snowden-nsa-surveillance-wikileaks-videos
“authorised commenter” Rouge LOL! How subtle is the world of authority you wish to live in!?
Jack Straw, who is one of the characters who has most to fear from the truth coming out, is off course the first one to denigrate the Guardian and Wikileaks for telling us what he’s been up to.
Craig will be vindicated, eventually, for having a spine and speaking up against these psychopath and control freaks.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/10372603/Jack-Straw-Guardian-has-shown-extraordinary-naivety-and-arrogance-in-leaks.html
My direct question to Edward Snowden would be
‘Have you seen evidence that Jack Straw, when in power as Jutice minister, signed people off for torture and extraordinary rendition?’
“Craig will be vindicated, eventually, for having a spine and speaking up against these psychopath and control freaks.”
‘Eventually’?
What is your premise that he doesn’t already stand vindicated based upon?
resident dissident 12 Oct, 2013 – 10:28 pm
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Hear hear, good for you. I feel exactly the same about your totally unprovoked ad hominem which appeared a few hours later.
resident dissident 12 Oct, 2013 – 2:32 pm
As for the ‘Hitler’ comment, well that’s just as pathetic as the daily promotion of the bogeyman himself. Are you so dim as not to find any semblance or post-modern irony in my avatar? What if he had a big bushy moustach – would that be Stalin or Saddam, or just a smiley face with a bushy moustach?
It is not right to belittle the little Austrian puppet that gets dragged out every five minutes to fool us into beleiving we are not part of the same fascist empire as the one he promoted? How can we be fascists, we fought the fascists right? A classic mind trap that most are too ignorant to even see. Follow the money and cui bono? The international bankers start the international wars for power and control, they decide when they start, they decide who will fight, not their puppet politicians.
Villager
13 Oct, 2013 – 11:51 am
‘“authorised commenter” Rouge LOL! How subtle is the world of authority you wish to live in!?’
As, I’m sure, even you are aware, in this context, “authorised” means “not banned”. Is that simple enough for you?
Daniel Rich
12 Oct, 2013 – 9:20 pm
“It is so darn easy to speculate and even easier to guess one way or another, but it looks to me that what was once considered to be that ‘middle class’ chunk of society [in the past], has been slam-dunked into the financial blenders of $$-churning banksters and thus rendered obsolete, sidelined and completely obliterated. With no option but to hang on to the rafters of too big to jail fraudsters and one paycheck away from total poverty, how much do they care about NSA spying or Fukushima’s meltdown?.”
Looks like you’re right. An inquiry carried out in the UK reveals that the middle class is on the way down:
“Today’s middle-class children are on track to be the first in more than a century to be materially less well off in adulthood than their parents, a government commission is expected to warn this week.”
As one commenter remarks:
“The creed of venality of neo-liberalism just means less wealth for the rest of society as the minority hoover it up and take it off shore never to be taxed.”
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/oct/12/middle-class-young-people-future-worse-parents
I do not make a daily trawl of the JC. I leave that to its Jewish readers.
The defence of the Friends of Israel groups in OUR Parliament above is disingenuous and risible.
Hughes: ‘Delegations of senior party officials from both Liberal Democrat and Labour parties have returned from trips to Israel.
Lib Dem deputy leader Simon Hughes led an 11-strong group on a visit organised by the Liberal Democrat Friends of Israel. The group went to the Golan Heights, Jerusalem and Tel Aviv, and also held meetings with Palestinian groups in Ramallah.
Mr Hughes said the visit had given him a unique and insightful perspective. Israel’s right to exist within secure borders must never be called into question or compromised, but the Palestinians also deserve their own sovereign nation unencumbered by external forces.”
He promised that the party would support the current peace talks.”“
Did he have to make another visit to Israel (previous 2012 and 2011) to decide that there should be a Palestinian state. He knows damned well that that will never happen. He also knows that the ‘peace talks’ are a sham., a piece of theatre like the Chilcot Inquiry, flim flam.
The FoI’s allegiance to Israel is treason pure and simple. Offord has just set up a All Party Parliamentary Group for British Jews, which the British Board of Deputies are supporting.
http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/112292/all-party-group-starts-20-members
How many more groups do the Jewish MPs want? There are the three FoIs, one APPG for Anti-Semitism, another for Israel and this new one. Similar organisations exist in the EU mainly to promote Israel’s trade interests.
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm/cmallparty/register/israel.htm
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm/cmallparty/register/antisemitism.htm
I notice Hughes has membership of the APPG for Palestine for good measure.
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm/cmallparty/register/palestine.htm
‘Eventually’?
What is your premise that he doesn’t already stand vindicated based upon?
Let me explain it to you, villager, it means society will eventually vindicate Craig for his principled actions, which, imho, have made Britain a better place.
Myself and thousands of others in the world, speaking up and writing on blods such as this, have already realised and accepted this fact a long time ago. Got that?
Its only the nit pickers and doubting Thomas’s who try and divert the agenda, here and elsewhere, whether its in pay and to adjust for their s(hr)inking middle class standing or just sheer ignorance.
I suppose we can’t stop the poor devils trying to make a buck with their fingertips.
Kristallnacht all over again, or would that be Israeli UKIP supporters?
http://electronicintifada.net/content/video-israeli-crowd-cheers-africans-called-slaves/12833
Me, earlier: “What is your premise that he doesn’t already stand vindicated based upon?”
You still haven’t answered my question. Instead you’ve gone further in contradicting yourself. Please supply evidence to your assertion that he doesn’t already stand vindicated.
Bad luck if you live in Cornwall (or are on holiday there at any time) and you need a doctor out of hours. This is what happens when the NHS is privatised and the service is fragmented. The outsourcers want to outsource their contract. More pressure on the ambulance services and on the A&E depts. will be the result.
This dreadful situation with Serco has existed for a long time. Their executives have even appeared in front of a HoC committee on their lies and cover ups.
‘Serco talks over out-of-hours GP cover could ‘fragment’ service
MP Andrew George said Serco should “hand back the keys if they can’t do the job”
Talks over out-of-hours GP service
GP service had ‘bullying culture’
Whistleblowers ‘uncovered’ problems
An MP has said attempts by the operator of Cornwall’s out-of-hours GP service to subcontract its frontline work will result in a fragmented health service.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-24511605
The committee report – Nrs Hodge again
http://www.parliament.uk/business/committees/committees-a-z/commons-select/public-accounts-committee/news/out-of-ours-gp-service-in-cornwall/
This is a sad story of a family burned to death, and the head of the household expressing his sorrow and grief;
Link text
This is the degenerate ziofuckwits pouring their bile and venom, in the comments section;
Also note the points arising; where are the women at this funeral?. Not content with that then the notions of “Goyim kill goyim, and they blame the Jews.”* Applying the following is added;
These degenerate fuckwits, have no soul, no humanity and no fucking shame, their ideological zeal has blinded these degenerate ziofuckwits to all but their own supremacist visions of “paradise” on Earth.
Indeed Muslims Are Now To US What Jews Were To Hitler. AIPAC has been truly successful.
* ” Israel’s alleged role in the massacre mounted” that is twenty five years after the event, while everybody knows, is certain, but apparently it still remains “alleged”! Less said about Menachem Begin, …… was not always politically correct.
“RD: Perhpas Mary might wish to comment on Technicolour’s comment that “the real pressure for change will come from decent people within Israel” and consider how best to engage, encourage and support such people – does she really believe that cutting them off from the rest of the world will help? Or perhaps she sees some other mechanism as being the way forward – if so could she elucidate as to what it is?”
-Well, sanctions and boycotts played a vital role in ending apartheid in South Africa. And making sure that the reality in/news from Palestine and Gaza gets out, and gets acknowledged, is important, I think.
Reality of/relevant news from anywhere is important, obviously.
Its all about information flows and who infroms us, Villager, do you think that public who does little care about politics, because they are turned off, are as educated on Craigs principled stance and court vindication, as you and I are?
Now go back kissing Habby’s backside, or try and join Ellen in a bit of shimmying.
http://www.edp24.co.uk/news/health/dereham_residents_love_a_little_bit_of_shimmying_1_2879055
Villager your like
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Salacious_B._Crumb
hanging off habba the huts every word
Crumb became something of a fixture in Habba’s court, teasing, mocking and cackling at practically anyone and everyone who visited the forum. He sat at the base of Habba’s dias, sleeping and eating when there was nothing to be made fun of
Habba was very fond of the little monkey-lizard, though most others were not…
Today’s suspicious observers news. If you are following events above and below Earth’s surface, these guys are pretty knowledgeable and reliable.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LZuUX13s78&feature=c4-overview&list=UUTiL1q9YbrVam5nP2xzFTWQ
Two years have passed since Moc left Japan and resettled in Romania. Although the numbers are being repressed, it’s quite clear many are leaving the Island. My prediction; Japan will be uninhabited within 10 years.
http://fukushima-diary.com/2013/10/column-we-can-change-our-future/
JA doesn’t like the new movie 5th Estate.
http://wikileaks.org/First-Letter-from-Julian-Assange.html