Ray McGovern and the Sam Adams party have presented the Sam Adams award to Edward Snowden. I am delighted. This from Ray’s account of the event:
In brief remarks from his visitors, Snowden was reassured — first and foremost — that he need no longer be worried that nothing significant would happen as a result of his decision to risk his future by revealing documentary proof that the U.S. government was playing fast and loose with the Constitutional rights of Americans.
Even amid the government shutdown, Establishment Washington and the normally docile “mainstream media” have not been able to deflect attention from the intrusive eavesdropping that makes a mockery of the Fourth Amendment. Even Congress is showing signs of awaking from its torpor.
In the somnolent Senate, a few hardy souls have gone so far as to express displeasure at having been lied to by Director of National Intelligence James Clapper and NSA Director Keith Alexander — Clapper having formally apologized for telling the Senate Intelligence Committee eavesdropping-related things that were, in his words, “clearly erroneous” and Alexander having told now-discredited whoppers about the effectiveness of NSA’s intrusive and unconstitutional methods in combating terrorism.
Coleen Rowley, the first winner of the Sam Adams Award (2002), cited some little-known history to remind Snowden that he is in good company as a whistleblower — and not only because of previous Sam Adams honorees. She noted that in 1773, Benjamin Franklin leaked confidential information by releasing letters written by then-Lt. Governor of Massachusetts Thomas Hutchinson to Thomas Whatley, an assistant to the British Prime Minister.
The letters suggested that it was impossible for the colonists to enjoy the same rights as subjects living in England and that “an abridgement of what are called English liberties” might be necessary. The content of the letters was so damaging to the British government that Benjamin Franklin was dismissed as colonial Postmaster General and had to endure an hour-long censure from British Solicitor General Alexander Wedderburn.
There has been a determined attempt by government to justify the need to intercept everybody’s communications, all the time. We have, yet again, had MI5 claim there are many thousand violent Islamic terrorists running around the UK, (yet somehow not managing to kill anybody). The cry of “paedophiles” is raised, as always. I can imagine them suggesting the entire population be shot dead, and justifying it as making sure they get the paedophiles. The tabloids would go with that.
There still had not been a single credible claim by the mainstream media that any named individual has died, despite that contingency being trotted out all the time as the reason Snowden and Manning should not have revealed state crimes and abuse of power. I am hopeful that, with the internet still largely free to the dissemination of information, out next massive whistleblower is only weeks away.
‘I use Firefox so never have to type my name in, the Name field is always filled in as is the Email field. So straight away a wrong assumption is the basis of your “real evidence”’
Then explain how the name “Mary” got into that field.
Mary, what gives?
Fred: “Then explain how the name “Mary” got into that field”
Goodness me, not another one, maybe it’s a full moon tonight;
http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2013/10/edward-snowden-gets-sam-adams-award/comment-page-12/#comment-435488
“Goodness me, not another one, maybe it’s a full moon tonight;”
Now will you explain how the name “Mary” got into that field?
There are only two possibilities, someone hacking into your computer is not an option.
Either you typed it in and couldn’t spell your own name or you clicked on it in a drop down box and in either case it means you had previously been posting as someone else.
Now which is it?
“If the west had wanted Assad gone it would have taken a couple of months to do so”
The people who wanted to do this, by killing more civilians, were defeated. Has that not registered? Have you looked at the comments under Blair’s piece in the Guardian today? Read them and then talk about ‘the West’ and ‘kafirs’, Anno.
er, actually, and after dealing with a load of ridiculous, awful, crazy personal attacks, fairness compels me to point out that I have vague memories of having typed someone else’s name into the box, aeons ago, instead of starting the comments addressed to them. and pressed ‘post’ before realising it.
don’t expect this will win me any points but, hey, shot by both sides and all.
“Jon, Suhayl, Dreoilin: are we really supposed to believe this is coincidence?”
I don’t think it is. Macky, who used to pop in from time to time, is suddenly here 24/7 attacking all and sundry, and deciding (to his own satisfaction) who is a “troll” and who isn’t. Suddenly replying to anyone and everyone with his own special brand of ugly.
It feels like an attempted take-over to me. He and Fedup/Passerby, brutalizing the place in the hopes that everyone who disagrees with them will leave.
I won’t give them the satisfaction.
I once said that Macky wasn’t the brightest bulb in the box, and he’s been calling lots of people (especially you, Tech) “stupid” ever since. He’s not very original. Whether he’s been sockpuppeting or not is an open question. Plus, his *denouncing* of Jemand, based on nothing more than a variation in spelling, is to be deplored. And, he’s misquoting. I made no “vow” about anything, nor was I talking about Mary at the time.
I remember when there was no moderator here. Before Jon and Clark took on the job. It was a very pleasant place to visit. But these particular fuglies hadn’t arrived then, and the ones who did departed relatively quickly. Now they’re trying to take over (in the guise of battling “trolls”, which is what they are themselves at this stage. Clear as day.)
[I must admit that they come out with some hilarious stuff though. ‘Little old ladies’ wielding knives, attacking and slashing, and then tottering away on their zimmers. LMAO!! That’s some imagination for you. No brains, just an over-active imagination. Too many video games, perhaps.]
PS Are they trying to destroy the image of pro-Palestinian activists?
PPS Irrespective of anything I have said in the past, if someone misquotes me I will SAY SO. I cannot abide being misquoted.
Fred: “Either you typed it in and couldn’t spell your own name or you clicked on it in a drop down box and in either case it means you had previously been posting as someone else.”
Definitely not either of those two; third option that occurs to me, is that when making that post in which I had cut & pasted some text as part of my comment, and in doing so had accidentally also pasted some text, maybe the first word being “Mary” over the Name field also. Forth option, is that I absentmindedly started typing my comment with my cursor accidentally in the Name field, but I really don’t now how it happened, however this is what I know as fact;
I posted as I’ve always done, & didn’t notice or realise any problem until I read somebody’s posted comment praising Mary for my Post some time later; upon investigation after the initial shock, I noticed that the name “Mary” was in the Name field instead of “Macky”, and when I clicked in the box both “Mary” & “Macky” appeared as drop options; I tried to delete the “Mary” option, but it wouldn’t go; so I was careful to pick “Macky” for my next couple of posts, until at one time when I wanted to post again, & I was ready to be sure to pick “Macky”, I didn’t have to, as the “Mary” option had suddenly disappeared of its own accord; I’m still half convince it was a hack, but prepared to accept that it could also have been a human error on my part; I stayed up very late that night running anti-virus programs & corresponding with the Night Owls, Ben & AlcAnon, and it was AlcAnon who gave me advice on how to delete the rogue “Mary” entry, which in the end I didn’t need to use.
Anyhow this is really a stupid topic to be discussing at such length & taking up so many posts, as there is nothing to suggest that Mary has ever been impersonated here before, and Mary would have surely noticed !!
You want me to read Blair? Arsehole piece of shit. I do agree with the texts of Islam but I will not be preached at by to or from trollshit like you techshite.
In 2003 I posted many comments against Blair’s war against Islam in Iraq, to the effect that the west wanted to Disneyise Iraq.
Well you kafir shite will be pleased to know that it has been achieved on a limited scale in Northern iraq. talk about exchanging gold for bangles. A slice of hillside called Chavy land has been disneyised with piped classical music from every lampost, disney creatures. and US english welcome to Chavy land!
Cable cars and coloured lights decorate the place at night, and youngsters can hang out and dream of Europe.
You don’t like the plain truth that I have stated about Syria which will be still truth in another 10 years time, like what I said about Iraq.
Dreoilin: ““Jon, Suhayl, Dreoilin: are we really supposed to believe this is coincidence?” I don’t think it”
No, they are perfect, flawless people, completely above & beyond any criticism, and it’s not a paranoid silly conspiracy theory, honest !
My scroll button I getting worn out.
One bit of good news. The execrable man of Straw is retiring at the next election. What comes next? Lord Straw of Blackburn?
‘Labour leader Ed Miliband paid tribute to Mr Straw’s “eloquence and wisdom” and said he “will continue to serve our country in many different ways”.’ Quite so Ed. A change of colour for him from a green bench to a red one?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-24673662
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The border thugs have been busy arresting car wash men in Surrey and the IOW. See the amount of the fine for employing illegal immigrants.
http://www.iwcp.co.uk/news/news/illegal-immigrants-arrested-at-car-wash-51431.aspx
This sounds just like a hunt minus the horses.
http://www.guildford-dragon.com/2013/10/25/immigration-raid-sainburys-car-wash/
Going on all over the country probably. I see they have special vehicles which resemble police vehicles – ‘Immigration Enforcement’. St Theresa obviously means business and has a large budget presumably.
s/be My scroll button is getting worn out.
No, I didn’t want you to read Blair, good god. I wanted you to read the comments under Blair’s ‘piece’ the top rated of which so far, by a thousand, is a link to ‘tony blair war criminal’.
“trollshit like you”
“The believer is not a slanderer, one who curses a great deal, one who indulges in obscenity or who in engages in foul talk.” Narrated by al-Tirmidhi (1977); classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Tirmidhi.
Argue it out with them, or with the Prophet (PBUH); not with me.
Ah, Mary, you’re there, how wonderful. Any thoughts on your charming supporters, and their attacks on and denigration of this blog?
Jonangus Mackay = Macky?
@Macky
So you accidentally cut and pasted the word “Mary” into the name field?
You don’t seriously expect anyone to believe that do you?
It’s good to see immigrants to this country find work and have all the benefits that we all find so easy to access.
It would be good to see more happy hardworking people like the car washers.
What a job, it must take some sort of musle cleaning cars.
Great hard working people!
There you go, as ever the fucking zimmerframe cavalry gallops to the aid of the ziofuckwit posing as an atheist. So far there is villageCtechniCannoC who bangs on about krishnawotsit, then there is atheists, all of whom are protected by the lill old lady from those emeralds isles.
Then the faux supporter of the “Palestinians” goes on record;
Weeeeehhhhhhhhyyyyyyhhhaaa, slap my thigh, what next Mr. Darcy, well I declare!
Brutes like my polynymial goodself well there you have it! When the fuckers are caught with their hands in the cookie jar/pants around the ankle situation then they all deny, deny, deny, deny.
An open letter to Foxman of the ADL from Alison Weir of If Americans Knew.
A Modest Proposal to the Anti-Defamation League
October 24, 2013
Dear Abe Foxman,
Thank you! Our organization, If Americans Knew, is enormously honored by our inclusion in your recent Top Ten list of “anti-Israel groups” – in reality, organizations working most strenuously and effectively to oppose Israel’s brutal human rights abuses and violent ethnic cleansing project.
As you note, hundreds of such groups “operate in the U.S. today,” and, I might add, a great many of them produce profoundly valuable work. This makes us particularly honored to have been included among the ten most effective.
Your organization apparently finds those working on behalf of justice and equality for all abhorrent when this includes Palestinians. Happily, many disagree with you. In fact, a large and growing number of people (of all ethnicities, religions, races, and political persuasions) believe that universal principles of morality do not contain exceptions.
Britain’s “Redress Information & Analysis” calls inclusion on your list “one of the highest accolades truth-telling fighters against racism and bigotry could hope for.”
Your Top Ten report appears to be an important element of your fundraising outreach, which rakes in almost $60 million for your annual budget – on top of your $115 million net assets.
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http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/10/24/a-modest-proposal-to-the-anti-defamation-league/
Fred: “You don’t seriously expect anyone to believe that do you?”
Not trolls like you; if you don’t like losing arguments so bad, please do not engage me ever again you pathetic loser.
LOLOLOL!
Sorry, I’m off to bed. Been a long day.
The truth which technicolour is unable to digest is that the west has for thousands of years been engaged in a crusade against Islam and that is because the Jews have a grudge against Islam for replacing its decadence with fresh light.
There is no struggle for resources in a global capitalist order, this is just ancient tripe like communism trotted out to confuse idiots like Tech.
There is a fiscal system which still is unable to connect your medical records to your council tax, but which is now linked to a vast recording hub that enables the new world order to pick out trash like me that complain about it. As always there are worse trash who get themselves out of a hole with the agents of the NWO by selling smaller trash.
The Zionist entity UKUSIS has prepared bait for political Islam for thousands of years, by which they lured the Muslims into the slave trade, lured them into rebelling against the Ottoman Empire and is now luring them into destroying Muslim populations in exchange for political power. These are offerred to the same bad trash who sell the smaller trash to get brownie points.
It has long been on the cards for Political Islam to be offerred a variety of carrots such as an Islamic state in Syria, if they will do other stuff. The task set them by USUKIS was to overthrow Assad, while they secretly armed Assad through Russia.
Loads of Muslims raped tortured homeless parentless. Yummy for the west.
Technicolour is not ready for the brutal truth that the west wages war against Islam and the Muslims because the love trying to break their spirit. And Tech is trying to hide under the pettycoats of economic rivalry. Plus ca change plus ca blog repeats the same old lies and puss.
Of course one explanation for Mary in Macky’s name box is that he posts while drunk. That said excess alcohol could also be the explanation for the bluster, bravado and aggression exhibited in most of his posts.
Mary: love your news paste, but have you any comment on your charming supporters and their attacks on and denigration of this blog? No? But why not?
Fedup: “fucking zimmerframe cavalry gallops to the aid of the ziofuckwit posing as an atheist”
“The believer is not a slanderer, one who curses a great deal, one who indulges in obscenity or who in engages in foul talk.” Narrated by al-Tirmidhi (1977); classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Tirmidhi.
“Technicolour is not ready for the brutal truth that the west wages war against Islam and the Muslims because the love trying to break their spirit”
That is Blair’s lie, and you have fallen for it. Me and my proper Muslim neighbour are not.
“Not trolls like you; if you don’t like losing arguments so bad, please do not engage me ever again you pathetic loser.”
I asked for a rational explanation as to how the name “Mary” got into your Name field. Other than the obvious one that you had been posting as someone else.
So far you haven’t come up with one.
So when you eliminate the impossible all that remains is that you use sockpuppets.
Q.E.D.
Memos reveal GCHQ efforts to keep mass spying secret
Exclusive: Snowden papers show spy agency fears legal challenge if scale of surveillance is revealed
Friday 25 October 2013
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/oct/25/leaked-memos-gchq-mass-surveillance-secret-snowden
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As Europe erupts over US spying, NSA chief says government must stop media
With General Alexander calling for NSA reporting to be halted, US and UK credibility as guardians of press freedom is crushed
Glenn Greenwald
Friday 25 October 2013
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/oct/25/europe-erupts-nsa-spying-chief-government
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France feared US spied on its president; was Israel’s Mossad involved?
AFP | Oct 25, 2013
Edward Snowden has been principally responsible for a still-unravelling scandal over large-scale US snooping on individuals and political leaders all over the world.
PARIS: France believed the United States attempted to hack into its president’s communications network, a leaked US intelligence document published on Friday suggests.
US agents denied having anything to do with the May 2012 cyber attack on the Elysee Palace, the official residence of French presidents, and appeared to hint at the possible involvement of Mossad, Israel’s intelligence agency, a classified internal note from the US National Security Agency suggests.
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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/europe/France-feared-US-spied-on-its-president-was-Israels-Mossad-involved/articleshow/24710933.cms
@Res Des, you really do wish that was the case, in case I drunkenly slipped up, but either blind drunk or stone cold sober, taking apart the unholy trinity of trolls, the malicious & the stupid, is too easy not to be fun !
Mary, gosh there you are again. Any comment on your supporters and their attacks on and denigration of this blog?
So you do post while blind drunk – thanks for the confirmation. Probably explains why you have failed totally in the challenge I set you to support your own statement about me.