Ray McGovern and the Sam Adams party have presented the Sam Adams award to Edward Snowden. I am delighted. This from Ray’s account of the event:
In brief remarks from his visitors, Snowden was reassured — first and foremost — that he need no longer be worried that nothing significant would happen as a result of his decision to risk his future by revealing documentary proof that the U.S. government was playing fast and loose with the Constitutional rights of Americans.
Even amid the government shutdown, Establishment Washington and the normally docile “mainstream media” have not been able to deflect attention from the intrusive eavesdropping that makes a mockery of the Fourth Amendment. Even Congress is showing signs of awaking from its torpor.
In the somnolent Senate, a few hardy souls have gone so far as to express displeasure at having been lied to by Director of National Intelligence James Clapper and NSA Director Keith Alexander — Clapper having formally apologized for telling the Senate Intelligence Committee eavesdropping-related things that were, in his words, “clearly erroneous” and Alexander having told now-discredited whoppers about the effectiveness of NSA’s intrusive and unconstitutional methods in combating terrorism.
Coleen Rowley, the first winner of the Sam Adams Award (2002), cited some little-known history to remind Snowden that he is in good company as a whistleblower — and not only because of previous Sam Adams honorees. She noted that in 1773, Benjamin Franklin leaked confidential information by releasing letters written by then-Lt. Governor of Massachusetts Thomas Hutchinson to Thomas Whatley, an assistant to the British Prime Minister.
The letters suggested that it was impossible for the colonists to enjoy the same rights as subjects living in England and that “an abridgement of what are called English liberties” might be necessary. The content of the letters was so damaging to the British government that Benjamin Franklin was dismissed as colonial Postmaster General and had to endure an hour-long censure from British Solicitor General Alexander Wedderburn.
There has been a determined attempt by government to justify the need to intercept everybody’s communications, all the time. We have, yet again, had MI5 claim there are many thousand violent Islamic terrorists running around the UK, (yet somehow not managing to kill anybody). The cry of “paedophiles” is raised, as always. I can imagine them suggesting the entire population be shot dead, and justifying it as making sure they get the paedophiles. The tabloids would go with that.
There still had not been a single credible claim by the mainstream media that any named individual has died, despite that contingency being trotted out all the time as the reason Snowden and Manning should not have revealed state crimes and abuse of power. I am hopeful that, with the internet still largely free to the dissemination of information, out next massive whistleblower is only weeks away.
Fred: “But were you the Anon with glasses who attacked Clark and Fedup?”
No, but what’s the point of answering both a malicious & an irrational person, so don’t keep bothering me with loaded moronic questions, in fact stop addressing me at all, as I’m getting even bored now with you revealing just what a troll you really are, even insulting you is no fun any longer, just too easy & must be very boring for others, so think of them if not yourself.
Now it is the deep, deep, deep undercover shit unfolding. The same fucker used to have loads of Jewish neighbours, now the Jews have left and Muslims have moved in, and they say the multi kulti (shades of the other supremacist fuckwit in his freemason gear) is dead.
Also the now pious technicolourvillageCanonC who is quoting the good old Timrony and is preaching to me to be a good Muslim. Well I will be, as good as gold, soon as I get back from the pub.
Man these ziofuckwits will not miss a trick, will they?
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Meanwhile back at the ranch, the blonde kid found amidst the Gypsies or is that the (Gypos, in the parlance of the supremacist fuckwits) is really a Gypsy stock, as well as her brothers and sisters turning out blonde too. Well another blow to the purity of the race how does a fucking blue eyed blonde come from the Gypsies? Stop the lot of the Roma slaughter them! Gaza them! The bastards have stolen the gene pool and are now producing fake, snidey, copy, and a shoddy replica white men!!! Why the pool was not better guarded, oh why o why?
Fucking disgraceful racist fuckwits gone mainstream and no on gives a shit, while the ziofuckwits are still flogging the dead horse of the antis…. the Gypcies are back in the hate matrix along with the Muslims. Have these ziofuckwits no pity on the poor antisemi… dead horse’s bones? The rotting dropping flesh of the putrefied dead as a door nail horse of the anitsem….. is gone and needs to be buried, but hey hang on there is some more mileage out of these dead bones yet!
Blonde gypsy girl taken from Roma parents in Ireland to be reunited with family
Right under the very nose of a certain long serving Irish dreo too! It is all my fault for keeping her occupied here by attacking her underlings and her need to be defending the little gaggle of the ziofuckwits from the brute me, that have kept her away from guarding the pool and shit!
“No,”
Which one were you then?
Hi Sofia Kibo Noh thanks for the link and for the laughs too. Arguing with the post pox I am roiling on the floor…… Prendergasts….
@Sofia: ” I still haven’t got over having my little epony turned into lasagne”
Who did it ? Just give me the name, and your epony will be avenged.
“And you don’t need do do anything save swing on the whee-vines.”
Great,I been longing for years for an excuse to don my dusty loincloath once again, and go pulling on some ratmonkeys tails once more like in the glory days of my youth.
Man don’t go after findus now, they are a corporate and they pay their sponsored errand boys in the Westminster the going rate, before you know it, you will be put on the animal liberation wotsit shit list and the special spies sent to keep an eye on you may even get to sleep with you!!!! Now you don’t want a burly special constable in your bed do you? (this may cause offence to panziarse homos, so best skip reading this post)*
BTW I am enjoying your interaction with Fred, he is running out of steam there.
* in for a penny in for a pound!!!!
Jeebus H….a lot of accelerant has been liberally splashed about today and nearly all have made their own flaming contribution.
Maybe tomorrow will be different, or next week……..
Fedup.
Dad: I know what you Reds are up to you know. You can’t fool me by just standing very still
Postbox: ………
Dad: There you go again! You think I can’t recognise a damned Russian accent when I hear one?
Postbox: ……..
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Mackey.
That’s the trouble. No names. The furniture van didn’t even have plates.
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Goodnight All.
Fedup: “Man don’t go after findus now,”
Bastards ! Sofia, avert your eyes;
https://twitter.com/pukkapixels/status/299638697924636672
I think a Dingo’s head will soon be having a nap in their CEO bed soon.
Fedup: “BTW I am enjoying your interaction with Fred, he is running out of steam there.”
Toying with him like mocking the afflicted, but I think that I’m being a bit selfish & greedy in clogging up this thread with having fun swatting gnats, and Fred is not particular witty & very prone to going potty-mouth, so out of respect to others, I will cease & desist with him as he is not really worth it anyway.
Ahhh. Blackhats..
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/25/nsa-website_n_4165142.html
“Stop Watching Us”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/25/nsa-website_n_4165142.html
correct link….http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2013/10/25-0
Thanks for the links Ben; will read with interest & then hit the sack; Goodnight.
“Let’s face it, Macky has been posting using other Usernames and one of them was “Mary”. There is no other rational explanation.
Give me a freaking break. Long time posters (Mary, Ben etc.) suddenly get other people posting as themselves, with entirely different styles, and not only do the original posters disappear for the duration, they say nothing about it upon their return?
JHC – do these supposedly serious speculators actually consider whether their accusations pass the laugh test before setting them down? Before repeating then as a point worthy of serious consideration?
‘strewth… and here I was, wondering if it was worth the bother of posting here again.
Relutant O
Stick around, you have some good points.
Macky himself (within some moments of the ‘Mary’ post ) was onto it, Proclaiming it was a post by himself. it might have been myself who brought his attention to it…I remember at the time thinking it did not seem like Mary’s style,
by time of said post – Mary was back as Mary, and around all the time,
Macky would choose a regular Long
term poster to sock puppet – at the very time Mary is back stronger than ever !!!
Macky Dose so when he could choose any Anon Name – since Mod is Off!!!
The Logic of it all….
Macky…. Unwind time – from last night in Glasgow – What a Show
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swyeKBJaZbE
What lies beneath the yarmulke !
13 November 1989, Erich Mielke: “Ich liebe doch alle Menschen.”
13 september 2013, Keith Alexander: “We are deeply proud of this record and make no apologies for it.”
15 January 1990, Public storms Stasi HQ: “Schluss mit Stasi und SED: Diktatur u. Nazismus”
15 November 2013, …?
Jives @25 Oct, 11:43p
“Jemand, So a mispelling of ‘harrassment’ in your twisted mind points at some proof that i stitched Mary up-rather than the much more mundane explanation of a typo on a mobile being the far more likely reason.. Oh your poor thing to cling to such stupid tactics. Even your line manager must be embarrassed by your ridiculous methods. You really must be desperate to scrape the barrel in such a pathetic manner.”
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Jives, you should be addressing your comment to Macky – it’s his theory, you dunce. Replace “Jemand” with “Macky” and your comment then makes perfect sense.
@Macky
You don’t seriously expect us to also believe that your ignorant mistaking of the common phrase “curry favour” for the meaningless “carry flavour” was really a typo, do you?
Given the distance between the spacing of the respective keys on a qwerty keyboard, your excuse is quite incredible. You are clearly poorly educated, and perhaps a little young (and angry). Or maybe phrases with the word “curry” are offensive to you. It might explain your otherwise inexplicable Islamophilia.
A picture is now starting to emerge of you as a very determined troll (I rarely use that term) who is sock-puppeting under a number of handles in order to drive off moderate commentators in order to hijack and steer this blog’s comments section.
One tactic is to accuse others of what you, yourself, are doing. Technicolour accurately described some of this behaviour above.
And Fred has given us reason to enquire how you could possibly “accidentally” post a comment in Mary’s name unless you have done it before – here and perhaps elsewhere. I think that you might have tried to do it just the once here and only acknowledged it when you realised the likely embarrassment of you being eventually exposed. Your subsequent attempt at smearing me could have been an attempt at deflecting attention from your own sinister activities. What would you have us believe?
And when you strip all the “fucks” out of Fedup’s unreadable posts, they start to resemble yours. Are his/your use of so many “fucks” a cloaking device for a different persona or a hurricane of Freudian slips?
Meanwhile, as the punches fly, SS Mary quietly sips her sherry in the corner of the bar filling out a crossword puzzle from a dubious newsletter — three letter word meaning “vermin” or “parasite” starting with ‘J’.
The Picking on Jives Now….
Jive’s posts are always short but MutiPowerful in Wit and Wisdom
i fucking love Jives insights
Jemander –
“Jives, you should be addressing your comment to Macky – it’s his theory, you dunce. Replace “Jemand” with “Macky” and your comment then makes perfect sense”.
COMPLETE LIES…..
And it starts again all over….
By only the good grace of Powerful minds will this Blog survive….Macky…thanks for standing down… Jives Best one liners on Ze internet…
You would think that Australia’s Mr Nasty would avoid a reference to the Schutzstaffel (SS) and Jews within one sentence, knowing of the awful connotations.
btw I do not go to bars, rarely drink alcohol especially not sherry and do not do crosswords. Sorry to disappoint there.
Just saw this on Medialens –
Defence Department under scrutiny over links to bushfires in NSW, Queensland and SA
Questions are being asked about how the Australian Defence Department conducts its ammunition training, with three fires in three states linked to live-fire exercises.
Today acting chief of Defence Air Marshall Mark Binskin apologised over the State Mine fire near Lithgow, which was sparked by a live-fire army exercise at the Marrangaroo Army Range last week.
(http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-24/defence-department-under-scrutiny-over-nsw-bushfires/5042682)
http://members5.boardhost.com/medialens/msg/1382754627.html
It’s all going pear shaped for Agent Cameron.
The DWP is in disarray. The change from Disabled Living Allowance to Personal Independence Payments (DLA>PIP – they love their acronyms) has been delayed.
http://disabilityrightsuk.org/news/2013/october/pip-problems-cause-rollout-delay
HS2 will probably be abandoned and Cameron will attempt to pin it on Labour.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/end-of-the-line-50bn-hs2-rail-link-project-in-doubt-8905090.html
It is revealed that more SPADs are employed now than ever before
http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/government-advisers-bill-rises-by-1m-1-6186424
The CEO of SERCO has resigned. Serco have taken £billions of our taxes for running prisons, electronic tagging, security, out of hours GP services, etc and are currently being investigated by the Serious Fraud Office for overcharging.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-24672344
Also pear shaped for Obomber. As the lift attendants used to say ‘Going down’!
‘Top German spy chiefs to go to Washington for talks
US state department spokeswoman Jen Psaki: “We want to ensure we’re collecting information because we need it, and not just because we can”
US spy leaks
US revelations
Profile: Edward Snowden
Edward Snowden: Timeline
US spies on ‘the entire globe’
Germany is to send its top intelligence chiefs to Washington to “push forward” an investigation into allegations the US spied on its leader Angela Merkel.
The heads of foreign and domestic intelligence would hold talks with the White House and the National Security Agency, a government spokesperson said.
Earlier, Germany and France said they want the US to sign a no-spy deal by the end of the year.’
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24680064
Q Will all the huggy huggy stuff at the G8s and G20s come to an end?
Hi Brian, how did your work out go? Belated thanks for the Iraq link. The current spat is the continuation of the poison that has been festering in this blog for the last ten months or so. The notion is to turn this place into yet another outfit that pays fealty to the ziofuckwits or effectively shut it down.
Those of us used to the public transport; have learned to catch a ride alongside the criminals, nutters, drunkards and lunatics, so frequenting a blog that is undergoing a rash of ziofuckwit attacks is really as easy as piss. Therefore keep cool and get on with posting and even joining in to take the piss and have a good laugh.
I have been having a great time enjoying the bust ups and laughing my tits off, this everyone else should do too. There is nothing to be offended by or to be distracted with, I am sure there are far worse incidents out of cyber world. Just pick up the papers or turn to the news channels and you will shudder at the inane racist drivel these carry. On the other hand think of the proceedings in this blog as a counter surveillance/mass spying technique, with all the squabbling on here the computers analysing the shit storm going on here will have a nigh on impossible fucking job making sense out of any of it!
Snowden files reveal enormous GCHQ efforts to escape legal challenge
Fact is these fuckwits knew they are doing wrong, and they cannot take the; “we were carrying out orders” line.
Jemand: “You don’t seriously expect us to also believe that your ignorant mistaking of the common phrase “curry favour” for the meaningless “carry flavour” was really a typo, do you? ”
LOL!! Are you seriously still soiling your pants over that ! Here’s a little word to the superdense; when people refer to “typo” errors on online debating forums, it not only includes hitting the wrong keys, but also grammatical & punctuational errors, etc, because normal, I repeat normal, people realise, that making on the fly comments, normally quickly & without bothering to proof-check, will naturally include some of these errors; even the most prestigious academic books with the benefit of time & serious proof-reading, often contain embarrassing howlers ! The fact that you don’t realise this obvious fact, and think it’s such a big revealing deal, really does pull you down to Villager level juvenile stupidity.
Jemand: “in order to drive off moderate commentators in order to hijack and steer this blog’s comments section”
LOL !! You really are in comical mode ! “moderate commentators” such as yourself, the Habbu-Troll, the new Fred Troll, the Village Idiot, the clueless Technicolour, the Irish SourPus, etc ??!!
Jemand: “I think that you might have tried to do it just the once here and only acknowledged it when you realised the likely embarrassment of you being eventually exposed”
The “once” can only be the Post that I myself highlighted, otherwise Mary would have noticed any other impersonating posts; the same Post in which I refer to Mary in the third person, & myself in the first ?! Sorry to shatter your delusions, but I am not as stupid as you obviously are.
Jemand: “Are his/your use of so many “fucks” a cloaking device for a different persona or a hurricane of Freudian slips?”
Yet another corker ! Can you point to my use of “many” fucks, to even attempt to justify this latest desperate dingbat crazy paranoid CT ?
Jemand: ” Meanwhile, as the punches fly, SS Mary quietly sips her sherry in the corner of the bar filling out a crossword puzzle from a dubious newsletter — three letter word meaning “vermin” or “parasite” starting with ‘J’.”
Yet another attempt to smear Mary as some sort of StormFront neo-nazi, and you seriously expect people to believe that it wasn’t you behind the frame-up !
@SS Mary, you have raised the issue of the Oz Defence Dept sparking the recent major bushfire for about the third(?) time now and always in immediate reply to something I posted. Why? What is the useful information you are trying to impart about this issue and why do you think I care?
And still no word from you explaining your happy acceptance of offensive support from your trio of flying monkeys – Macky-Fedup-Passerby. You know, their insults can be attributed to you as they are evidently your proxies.
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@BrianFujisan waddles into the fray to offer a withering defence of Jives who shot himself in the foot while it was still in his mouth. It’s like Dumb and Dumber, but in this case funny. Well done, Brian.
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Did anyone post this yet?
From Wikipedia –
According to Craig Murray, a former ambassador to Uzbekistan, Big Talk Productions tried to buy the rights to Murder in Samarkand for a film and believes the series is based on his book. He also thought the Foreign and Commonwealth Office had backed the comedy to “defuse the horror of our alliance with Uzbekistan and make it banal, accepted and safe”.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambassadors_(TV_series)
“Toying with him like mocking the afflicted, but I think that I’m being a bit selfish & greedy in clogging up this thread with having fun swatting gnats, and Fred is not particular witty & very prone to going potty-mouth, so out of respect to others, I will cease & desist with him as he is not really worth it anyway.”
Shit for brained fuckwit retard.
I wipe better things than you off my boots.
“Maybe tomorrow will be different, or next week……..”
No Ben, this is the way it is now.
Get used to it.
“LOL !! You really are in comical mode ! “moderate commentators” such as yourself, the Habbu-Troll, the new Fred Troll, the Village Idiot, the clueless Technicolour, the Irish SourPus, etc ??!! ”
Go fuck yourself obnoxious little toad.
Macky squawked – “Yet another attempt to smear Mary as some sort of StormFront neo-nazi, and you seriously expect people to believe that it wasn’t you behind the frame-up !”
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No one here believes that Mary was the true author of the SF comment. And although I initially thought that she might have naively posted to that website, it was clear soon after reading some comments here that she didn’t. The seemingly ambiguous motive for someone else posting the comment didn’t become evident until after you started banging on about it.
Now I’m quite sure that you have convinced some of your less cerebral friends here that I am the culprit, but it has become increasingly probable that you were the one behind that SF comment. As light is being cast on your questionable conduct with your posting under Mary’s name, inexplicably sudden ‘discovery’ of the SF culprit and irrational rejections of plausible explanations that incriminate you – is it any wonder that some people here might now think it was you?
Let’s see how many of your friends come to your defence.
Mary, do you think Macky is innocent of posting the SF comment?