Ray McGovern and the Sam Adams party have presented the Sam Adams award to Edward Snowden. I am delighted. This from Ray’s account of the event:
In brief remarks from his visitors, Snowden was reassured — first and foremost — that he need no longer be worried that nothing significant would happen as a result of his decision to risk his future by revealing documentary proof that the U.S. government was playing fast and loose with the Constitutional rights of Americans.
Even amid the government shutdown, Establishment Washington and the normally docile “mainstream media” have not been able to deflect attention from the intrusive eavesdropping that makes a mockery of the Fourth Amendment. Even Congress is showing signs of awaking from its torpor.
In the somnolent Senate, a few hardy souls have gone so far as to express displeasure at having been lied to by Director of National Intelligence James Clapper and NSA Director Keith Alexander — Clapper having formally apologized for telling the Senate Intelligence Committee eavesdropping-related things that were, in his words, “clearly erroneous” and Alexander having told now-discredited whoppers about the effectiveness of NSA’s intrusive and unconstitutional methods in combating terrorism.
Coleen Rowley, the first winner of the Sam Adams Award (2002), cited some little-known history to remind Snowden that he is in good company as a whistleblower — and not only because of previous Sam Adams honorees. She noted that in 1773, Benjamin Franklin leaked confidential information by releasing letters written by then-Lt. Governor of Massachusetts Thomas Hutchinson to Thomas Whatley, an assistant to the British Prime Minister.
The letters suggested that it was impossible for the colonists to enjoy the same rights as subjects living in England and that “an abridgement of what are called English liberties” might be necessary. The content of the letters was so damaging to the British government that Benjamin Franklin was dismissed as colonial Postmaster General and had to endure an hour-long censure from British Solicitor General Alexander Wedderburn.
There has been a determined attempt by government to justify the need to intercept everybody’s communications, all the time. We have, yet again, had MI5 claim there are many thousand violent Islamic terrorists running around the UK, (yet somehow not managing to kill anybody). The cry of “paedophiles” is raised, as always. I can imagine them suggesting the entire population be shot dead, and justifying it as making sure they get the paedophiles. The tabloids would go with that.
There still had not been a single credible claim by the mainstream media that any named individual has died, despite that contingency being trotted out all the time as the reason Snowden and Manning should not have revealed state crimes and abuse of power. I am hopeful that, with the internet still largely free to the dissemination of information, out next massive whistleblower is only weeks away.
Answer Kedem Forever. Because he’s on top of the heap of steaming manure in the HoC aka the Augean stables. He probably knows it all when you see where he’s been and where he is now. He secured chairmanship of the Intelligence Committee from Agent ‘I am a Zionist’ Cameron.
Rifkind was appointed chairman of the Intelligence and Security Committee by the Prime Minister, David Cameron, on 6 July 2010, a post he will hold for the duration of the Parliament.[1]
On 28 August 2013, Rifkind abandoned his anti-war principles and advocated for British military intervention in the Syrian civil war, regardless of whether or not the United Nations would support such action.[2] Writing in The Guardian, he accused the regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad of being willing to “do anything that they think they can get away with to stay in power” but then claimed that for Britain there was “no choice but to take military action with or without a UN mandate.”[2]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcolm_Rifkind
David Cameron: ‘I am a Zionist and I’m proud of the fact’
Thursday, June 14, 2007
‘The words of HM Leader of the Opposition, the Rt Hon David Cameron MP, at an address to the Conservative Friends of Israel. Out of context, the sentence is uncharacteristically declarative, but even in context, it is forthright, bold, and, in this day and age, rather brave. When asked about the Zionism and Conservatism, Mr Cameron said: ‘If what you mean by Zionist, someone who believes that the Jews have a right to a homeland in Israel and a right to their country then yes I am a Zionist and I’m proud of the fact that Conservative politicians down the ages have played a huge role in helping to bring this about.’
http://archbishop-cranmer.blogspot.co.uk/2007/06/david-cameron-i-am-zionist-and-im-proud.html
@Mary – Agent Cameron might have to fly over to Obomber and plead to start war if intelligence indicates the Scots Referendum will result in a YES vote, as a “force majeure” excuse for scrapping the vote. BTW guano is yiddish manure, I hope you are able to see through it.
“I actually think you are one of the better commentators here but your sense of absolutes on a lot of things makes you like well, shall I say, surprisingly naive.”
I don’t see it in absolutes AlcAnon, I just see it differently.
Firstly I think that a country should have control of their own domestic laws. I approve of the ECHR’s ability to overrule a court’s decisions where there is evidence that they violate someone’s human rights. I don’t believe that is the case here.
Say someone were to post clearly illegal and derogatory lies about Craig in the comments section of a popular UK newspaper where they remained for six weeks despite moderators having removed other posts? It was clear that the paper knew the posts were there and they knew they were illegal and damaging to Craig?
Suppose it went to court and the court awarded Craig a measly £250?
What would your opinion be then?
Guano and Kedem Forever both accusing each other of being Jewish – priceless!
“What applies to Google is applicable to all I would assume.
As there is no moderator here now, and if Craig is away and/or it is impossible to contact him, how does he stand legally?”
Until he is informed that a post to this blog violates UK law he is in the clear.
If it can be shown that he was aware of the post but didn’t remove it he would be liable.
@Fred – does this mean its OK to to “kibbitz” for all of Camerons “Yiddos” to be banned from being Spurs supporters (or worse, eg be Zykloned) for aiding and abetting 911 false flag after the fact with their never ending sayanim singalong at HuffPo !!
“does this mean its OK to to “kibbitz” for all of Camerons “Yiddos” to be banned from being Spurs supporters (or worse, eg be Zykloned) for aiding and abetting 911 false flag after the fact with their never ending sayanim singalong at HuffPo !!”
IANAL.
BTW I’ve been keeping an eye on the surface pressure charts and maybe those in central and southern Britain should at least consider the possibility that the BBC wasn’t just trying to scare you.
Interesting comments, but there is no such thing as ‘UK law’.
The Scottish legal system is, and has always been, separate from the rest of the UK.
Scottish independence: Ex-police chiefs clash over security
The economic and social research council organised a seminar about national security
Two former senior police officers have clashed over the national security implications of Scotland becoming independent.
Labour MSP Graeme Pearson, a former director of the Scottish Crime and Drug Enforcement Agency, said “effective working” was easier as part of the UK.
But Allan Burnett, a former director of intelligence at Strathclyde Police, dismissed his concerns.
The row follows a report from the Economic and Social Research Council.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-24677769
The chair of the ESRC mentioned in the report referred to above is a Dr Alan Gillespie,
Partner and MD at Goldman Sachs. LOL
Current ESRC Council members:
•Dr Alan Gillespie (Chair), Partner and Managing Director at Goldman Sachs and Co; Chairman of the Ulster Bank Group; Senior Independent Director of Old Mutual plc. (current term ends June 2017
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http://www.esrc.ac.uk/about-esrc/governance/esrc-council/index.aspx
Old Mutual is a ‘leading international long-term savings, investment, banking and protection Group’ based in SA.
Ulster Bank ‘is a subsidiary of National Westminster Bank, part of The Royal Bank of Scotland Group since 2000’.
(Both links Wikipedia)
The ESRC report http://www.futureukandscotland.ac.uk/sites/default/files/papers/Assessing%20security%20governance%20in%20the%20UK%20and%20Scotland%20under%20current%20arrangements.pdf
Scots law on defamation.
http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Publications/2011/01/11092246/4
Where are Ben/AA when you need em, we need to digress into ISON/scooby doo aliens of the Nevada desert before someone lets lose Jack Rubys real name was Jack Rubenstein !! The cui bonos have conveniently managed to dumb the goyim (for 50 years no less) from asking why in Gods name a yiddish night club owner got so aggrieved over an Irishman getting shot in Dallas, so as to go and shoot the “perpetrator”, until now.
This Govt biog for Dr Alan Gillespie is different to the one on the ESRC website in that this one says he worked for Goldman Sachs from 1986 until 1999 whereas the ESRC version implies the posts are current. ???
‘His banking career began at Citibank in 1976 before working for Goldman Sachs & Co from 1986 to 1999 as Partner and Managing Director. From 2001 to 2008 he was Chairman of the Ulster Bank Group and in 2008 he was appointed Chairman of Alliance & Leicester plc, until the takeover by Banco Santander. Dr Gillespie was also a Non-Executive Director of Elan Corporation plc, 1996-2006 and is currently Senior Independent Director of United Business Media plc, and Senior Independent Director of Old Mutual plc. In the public sector, he has been Chairman of the Northern Ireland Industrial Development Board (1996-2001), Chief Executive of the Commonwealth Development Corporation (1999-2002) and Chairman of the International Finance Facility for Immunisation (2005 to 2012).’
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/reappointment-of-economic-and-social-research-council-chair
Why are so many here happy to jump on trolls who disagree with what they say – but have absolutely nothing to say against the blatant anti-semitism and racism of Kedem Forever, Guano and Daniel Rich – some even post supportive comments?
The Rebekah Brooks/Andy Coulson trial commence tomorrow.
Don’t comment on Andy Coulson and Rebekah Brooks, MPs told
Ed Miliband, Nick Clegg and David Cameron have been warned to keep their MPs in check ahead of one of the most high profile criminal trials involving a political figure in years
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/phone-hacking/10405763/Dont-comment-on-Andy-Coulson-and-Rebekah-Brooks-MPs-told.html
So says Oliver Heald, the Solicitor General.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_Heald
Almost empty cf many other MPs. http://www.theyworkforyou.com/regmem/?p=10267
eg Edward Garnier, another barrister and previous Solicitor General
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/10221/edward_garnier/harborough#register which includes the registering of a visit to Israel this year.
Resident Dissident
27 Oct, 2013 – 9:18 am
Why are so many here happy to jump on trolls who disagree with what they say – but have absolutely nothing to say against the blatant anti-semitism and racism of Kedem Forever, Guano and Daniel Rich – some even post supportive comments?
If you don’t like it here… then be a good boy and JOG ON.
“If you don’t like it here… then be a good boy and JOG ON.”
Meaning: if you don’t like the blatant anti-semitism, just leave. In direct opposition to the wishes of the blog owner, who asked anti-Semites and Holocaust deniers to clear off.
To give Komodo credit, he is the only Murrayista to date to have actually taken English Knight/Kedem Forever to task, though unfortunately he also believed that the anti-Semite’s presence here was a Zionist conspiracy to pollute the blog with anti-Semitic comments. Still, credit where credit’s due!
Interesting to see Mary engaging with Kedem Forever.
“Dg” Jemand. 2 36am
. “Bilal Skaf led a gang of Muslim youths to rape “Aussie sluts”. The Wikipedia articles don’t give nearly as much details as what was reported at the time of the crimes and trials.”
What is your take on the details in this? Was that Muslims too?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_of_Indigenous_Australians.
@Jemand, your reply was devoid of any substance except empty bluster; I’m beginning to suspect that not only were you behind the SF frame-up, but have Neo-Nazi leanings, which also fits in with the views you often express on this Blog.
@Res Des, Do you jump in and take issue with every Islamophobic post ? Do you accuse such Poster of being racists, as you do whenever you perceive any whiff of anti-semitism, and do you harangue other posters for not objecting to Islamophobic Posts & Posters ?
Further, although you can try to claim that stating that some Jews conspire in Israel’s interest is a CT, you cannot claim it’s anti-Semetism.
Exexpat
Good to see you updating the slogan of apologists and appeasers down the years – and you know what I am sure you can find some supporters of the Israeli Government who will be saying giving exactly the same message to those Israelis who criticise its abuse of Palestinians humman rights. You should be thoroughly ashamed of yourself.
Anon
I think you are wrong about Craig telling these creatures to clear off – what I think he said was that they should be exposed and ridiculed- clearly the appeasers and apologists think that such work is beneath them and should be left to mere trolls, leaving them to their more selective attacks on racism.
Des Res
Now I understand the meaning of the phrase ‘ You don’t say ‘. Everyone seems bothered about what people don’t say. You can go to a library or surf the internet to find everything I haven’t said.
MACKY
Do i step in and take issue with every Islamophobic post?
No – but I would do so if someone else didn’t and I wouldn’t attack the person for trying to counter that post. BTW how is your search going to find a single case regarding the slur you made against me?
The pressing issue is what do we do with bibi satanyahu now? The devil has just failed in the joint Ghouta undertaking with bandar bosh, and his follow up “training” missile caper also failed. His 911 partner Ehud Brog is upto no good as we speak, it must be remembered the zionistan state of terror devils do not retire, begin,peres,sharon are good examples. I remember Habba hinting “we got the Romans to do our job” re the Son of Man, so to get a few dumbass Southern Baptist zio rednecks like McCain or N Carolina hillybilly gays like Lindsey Graham is really a walk in the park for AIPAC. The recent flimsy sackings of US Generals may be an indicator? Interesting Yom Kippur ahead.
desres (aka the bottom half of the villager sandwich)
why do you keep coming here if you don’t like it?
You Zionist apologists seem to enjoy M as well as the S…
Thanks for that link to the turkish site, Brian Fujisan, very interesting indeed. Mesopotamia and also the area now called Afghanistan all can be described as the birthplaces of civilisation. It definately did not start with the Greeks or in Egypt. It looks like Hum anity evovled in more than one place at the same time.
I’d love to visit that site, but will most likely demise beforehand.
I think that this blog will either be revampt by somebody, or taken down, as Craig is rather occupied with other issues.
I have other things to do and write about and had enough of the screams and accusations of anti semitism here.
Fuck those zionists who only pray to their false god of war and chaos, who like prissy anemone’s come on here to spray their venom, but god beware that they are takien to rtask for their blurb and falsehoods, they screams anti semite.
Fascist fools the lot of them and that includes your dear leader Cameron.
My best to Craig and all those I have met through this blog, some in person. It was great while it lasted,take care.
Brian, here is my last link to above story.
And may all those who still kill civilians in Afghanistan, die alone, painful and without anybody noticing.
http://www.afghanwiki.com/en/index.php?title=Prehistory_of_Afghanistan
Anon 9.37am
Kedem Forever asked ‘But my pet peeve is WHY has the lithuanian jew rifkind not resigned after that evil performance shilling for war on the floor of the Commons, based on YouTube videos and dodgy 8200 “intercepts”?’
I made some suggestions in answer to the question which seemed reasonable as he was speaking in favour of war. OK? I did not engage about Sir Malcolm’s provenance. I do not care. I do care that Rifkind was war mongering for Hague and Cameron.
Malcolm Rifkind (Kensington, Conservative)
29 Aug 2013
The Leader of the Opposition has said that he might be able to support military action of the kind that the Government are contemplating. He has put in his amendment a list of the requirements, virtually all of which, as far as I can tell, appear in the Government’s own motion. Why can he not, therefore, support the Government’s motion, in order that this House could speak with a united voice to the world on this matter?
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and so on.
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/debates/?id=2013-08-29c.1425.2#g1448.4
He made three speeches that day. Note what Sir Gerald Kaufman has to say following him!
Gerald Kaufman (Manchester, Gorton, Labour)
When the right hon. and learned Gentleman says that we know that Syria is the only country in the middle east that possesses stocks of chemical weapons, will he draw attention to the use by Israel of illegal chemical weapons in Gaza—white phosphorus? Surely Israel, too, has such weapons, and we should take that into account in looking at the spectrum.
Straw follows attempting to justify his involvement in waging war on Iraq. That is his usual script these days. Vile.
I always wanted to visit Syria but that will probably be impossible in my lifetime now.
What has happened to the archaeological sites and the museums and artefacts? Anyone know. I do know what happened to Iraq’s treasures.
Loving this from the Poet Laureate, Carol Ann Duffy.
Her latest poem.
22 Reasons for the Bedroom Tax
Because the Badgers are moving the goalposts.
The Ferrets are bending the rules.
The Weasels are taking the hindmost.
The Otters are downing tools.
The Hegehogs are changing the game-plan.
The Grass-snakes are spitting tacks.
The Squirrels are playing the blame-game.
The Skunks are twisting the facts.
The Pole-cats are upping the ante.
The Foxes are jumping the gun.
The Voles are crashing the party.
The Stoats are dismantling the Sun.
The Rabbits are taking the biscuit.
The Hares are loosing the plot.
The Eagles are kicking the bucket.
The Rats are joining the dots.
The Herons are throwing a curveball.
The Shrews are fanning the flames.
The Field mice are sinking the 8-ball.
The Swans are passing the blame.
And the Pheasants are draining the oil from the tanks – but only the
Bustards have broken the bank.
Here endeth the lesson ….