The problem with the Geneva Communique from the first Geneva round on Syria is that the government of Syria never subscribed to it. It was jointly chaired by the League of Arab States for Syria, whatever that may mean. Another problem is that it is, as so many diplomatic documents are, highly ambiguous. It plainly advocates a power sharing executive formed by some of the current government plus the opposition to oversee a transition to democracy. But it does not state which elements of the current government, and it does not mention which elements of the opposition, nor does it make plain if President Assad himself is eligible to be part of, or to head, the power-sharing executive, and whether he is eligible to be a candidate in future democratic elections.
Doubtless the British, for example, would argue that the term transition implies that he will go. The Russians will argue there is no such implication and the text does not exclude anybody from the process. Doubtless also diplomats on all sides were fully aware of these differing interpretations and the ambiguity is quite deliberate to enable an agreed text. I would say that the text tends much more to the “western” side, and that this reflects the apparently weak military position of the Assad regime at that time and the then extant threat of western military intervention. There has been a radical shift in those factors against the western side in the interim. Expect Russian interpretations now to get more hardline.
Given the extreme ambiguity of the text, Iran has, as it frequently does, shot itself in the foot diplomatically by refusing to accept the communique as the basis of talks and thus getting excluded from Geneva. Iran should have accepted the communique, and then at Geneva issued its own interpretation of it.
But that is a minor point. The farcical thing about the Geneva conference is that it is attempting to promote into power-sharing in Syria “opposition” members who have no democratic credentials and represent a scarcely significant portion of those actually fighting the Assad regime in Syria. What the West are trying to achieve is what the CIA and Mossad have now achieved in Egypt; replacing the head of the Mubarak regime while keeping all its power structures in place. The West don’t really want democracy in Syria, they just want a less pro-Russian leader of the power structures.
The inability of the British left to understand the Middle East is pathetic. I recall arguing with commenters on this blog who supported the overthrow of the elected President of Egypt Morsi on the grounds that his overthrow was supporting secularism, judicial independence (missing the entirely obvious fact the Egyptian judiciary are almost all puppets of the military) and would lead to a left wing revolutionary outcome. Similarly the demonstrations against Erdogan in Istanbul, orchestrated by very similar pro-military forces to those now in charge in Egypt, were also hailed by commenters here. The word “secularist” seems to obviate all sins when it comes to the Middle East.
Qatar will be present at Geneva, and Qatar has just launched a pre-emptive media offensive by launching a dossier on torture and murder of detainees by the Assad regime, which is being given first headline treatment by the BBC all morning
There would be a good dossier to be issued on torture in detention in Qatar, and the lives of slave workers there, but that is another question.
I do not doubt at all that atrocities have been committed and are being committed by the Assad regime. It is a very unpleasant regime indeed. The fact that atrocities are also being committed by various rebel groups does not make Syrian government atrocities any better.
But whether 11,000 people really were murdered in a single detainee camp I am unsure. What I do know is that the BBC presentation of today’s report has been a disgrace. The report was commissioned by the government of Qatar who commissioned Carter Ruck to do it. Both those organisations are infamous suppressors of free speech. What is reprehensible is that the BBC are presenting the report as though it were produced by neutral experts, whereas the opposite is the case. It is produced not by anti torture campaigners or by human rights activists, but by lawyers who are doing it purely and simply because they are being paid to do it.
The BBC are showing enormous deference to Sir Desmond De Silva, who is introduced as a former UN war crimes prosecutor. He is indeed that, but it is not the capacity in which he is now acting. He is acting as a barrister in private practice. Before he was a UN prosecutor, he was for decades a criminal defence lawyer and has defended many murderers. He has since acted to suppress the truth being published about many celebrities, including John Terry.
If the Assad regime and not the government of Qatar had instructed him and paid him, he would now be on our screens arguing the opposite case to that he is putting. That is his job. He probably regards that as not reprehensible. What is reprehensible is that the BBC do not make it plain, but introduce him as a UN war crimes prosecutor as though he were acting in that capacity or out of concern for human rights. I can find no evidence of his having an especial love for human rights in the abstract, when he is not being paid for it. He produced an official UK government report into the murder of Pat Finucane, a murder organised by British authorities, which Pat Finucane’s widow described as a “sham”. He was also put in charge of quietly sweeping the Israeli murders on the Gaza flotilla under the carpet at the UN.
The question any decent journalist should be asking him is “Sir Desmond De Silva, how much did the government of Qatar pay you for your part in preparing this report? How much did it pay the other experts? Does your fee from the Government of Qatar include this TV interview, or are you charging separately for your time in giving this interview? In short how much are you being paid to say this?”
That is what any decent journalist would ask. Which is why you will never hear those questions on the BBC.
One more Palestinian has been killed in Ramallah by the IDF.
29 January 2014
Israeli troops kill Palestinian in West Bank
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-25947618
A ‘terrorist’ note according to the IDF.
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Harriet Sherwood who has reported from Israel for the Guardian is returning to London.
She has written this very moving valedictory piece on her final visit to Gaza, describing the hellish lives being led there.
Goodbye Gaza: our correspondent reflects on her time in the Middle East
After three years reporting on the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, our Middle East correspondent is coming home to the UK. With heavy heart she pays a farewell visit to Gaza and pays tribute to the resilience, creativity and humour of its people
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/25/goodbye-gaza-harriet-sherwood-palestine-israel
Her humanity is plain and welcome but sometimes her perspective has been skewed.
A small example – ‘especially during the brutal three-week war with Israel in 2008-9.’ She refers to Cast Lead. The ‘brutality’ was almost entirely Israeli as we know. An attack with bombs and missiles was planned for maximum killing at 11am on the first day. 215 children and graduating police were murdered in the first 15 minutes. Thermobaric weapons were used. Photos of the dead police showed ‘rubber legs’ ie multiple fractures from massive blast.
And she uses the phrase ‘Israeli/Palestinian CONFLICT’. Conflict my eye. It has been, and continues to be, slow genocide with imprisonment and torture of all varieties.
PS CIF Watch don’t like her one bit. No less than three unpleasant articles in a row about her reporting.
Squonk
I don’t know if Mary was the author of these posts or if it was someone else, but would you hazard a guess as to why, for example, it was pointed out on this blog (in a manner I would not describe as positive) that
– Associate Justice Sonia Sotomayor had a couple of good Jewish friends (from her college days)
– the last few chairmen of the FED were Jewish
– Jews were “over-represented” on the US Supreme Court?
I can assure you that those observations had nothing to do with the gist (such as it was) of the posts I refer to.
PS to Squonk
In case you think that I’m imagining this about Mary, I would point out that the same observations have been made by a few other commenters whom I don’t know from Adam and with whom I have no connection whatsoever. So I don’t think you can put this down to some sort of personal obsession about Mary (whoever she is).
And I will admit that she has toned down this kind of snide allusion over the past few months, ever since I pulled her up about it rather vigorously. So there is still hope…
If you have evidence of anti-Jewish racism on this blog please provide details.
As well as Mary’s many references to the Jewish relatives of anyone she dislikes, might I suggest you read the postings of Guano (who has Islamosupremacist views as well e.g. Civilisation starts at Istanbul was a recent gem) and then you might wish to look at much of the information to which Daniel Rich links and there is of course John Goss’s links to all the Rothchild’s garbage. Could I suggest you research it all before you come back with a conclusion. We could of course mention English Knight or whatever that thick piece of shit is currently calling himself.
Res Diss
“the postings of Guano (who has Islamosupremacist views as well e.g. Civilisation starts at Istanbul was a recent gem)”
That’s your evidence?
I mean. Are you serious?
“And I will admit that she has toned down this kind of snide allusion over the past few months, ever since I pulled her up about it rather vigorously. So there is still hope…”
To be fair to Mary, she does respond for a time when corrected. The points she makes (e.g re Oona King flip flopping and what her past political positions have been) often have validity even if I disagree – and are in fact weakened rather than strengthened by the Jewish references/allusions.
Many times she does point to events in Israel and Palestine, and occasionally elsewhere, that need to be given wider circulation – and I have no problem with that whatsoever.
Squonk :
Leaving aside for a moment the question of whether Mary is antisemitic or not ( I fear we might have to differ on that),consider this very recent post from Mary :
“One more Palestinian has been killed in Ramallah by the IDF.
29 January 2014
Israeli troops kill Palestinian in West Bank
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-25947618”
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Now, I have read the BBC link she provided. In summary,the Israelis claim that the Palestinian attacked an army post and that a rifle and several bullet casings were found at the scene. The Palestinians for their part say that this is untrue and that the man was working on something for a Palestinian ministry.
I suggest that you read that BBC link as well and then tell me who you think is telling the truth and why. I myself have no idea, but perhaps you possess powers unavailable to me which will enable you to rule on which of those two diametrically opposed versions is the correct one. Mary obviously has those powers, but as I’m sure she won’t share them with me perhaps you would be good enough to do so?
Herbie
I am not going to post a long list with every instance – but believe me I could if I wished. I have pointed out many incidences of what I consider to be anti-Semitism and racism when I come across them (which is the right time to do so) – if you want to review my past postings you will find them by your own efforts. I do not keep a catalogue.
antisemite = Apartheid word, as it embraces only a select few and excludes all others. Those who use it [in its current context] are Apartheid supporters. Keep on rowing now, boys. Your boat’s sinking fast and with no land in sight you’ll be in it for the long haul.
All’s well in La-La-Land too:”The deflation “ogre” is about to devour the economies of the eurozone and the United States, according to some senior officials. The solution is hyperinflation that wipes money and all debt. Amazing mountains of money being printed out of thin-air in the US and eurozone, near-zero interest rates; credit expanding at two-digit rates; stocks prices setting record highs; housing prices rising at 14%; food becoming unaffordable to increasing numbers of people and putting over 50 million Americans on food stamps – describing these conditions as “deflation” is simply insanity and falsehood.” LINK
But, Res Diss,
You said that Guano had what you termed, Islamosupremacist views, and your best evidence, “a gem” in your own words is that he said:
“Civilisation starts at Istanbul”.
“the postings of Guano (who has Islamosupremacist views as well e.g. Civilisation starts at Istanbul was a recent gem)”
You see. If your labelling of Guano as having “Islamosupremacist views” is based on such risible evidence then I fear your allegations of anti-semitism may well be based on similarly risible evidence.
Go cry me a river. Summary of Israeli Violations of International Law in 2013
http://utdocuments.blogspot.com.br/2014/01/does-obama-administration-view.html
Does Obama administration view journalists as Snowden’s “accomplices”? It seems so.
James Clapper, the Director of National Intelligence, appeared today before the Senate Intelligence Committee, his first appearance since outright lying to that Committee last March about NSA bulk collection. In his prepared opening remarks, Clapper said this:
Who, in the view of the Obama administration, are Snowden’s “accomplices” The FBI and other official investigators have been very clear with the media that there is no evidence whatsoever that Snowden had any help in copying and removing documents from the NSA.
Here, Clapper is referring to “accomplices” as those who can “facilitate the return of the remaining” documents. As Snowden has said, the only ones to whom he has given those documents are the journalists with whom he has worked. As has been publicly reported, the journalists who are in possession of thousands of Snowden documents include myself, Laura Poitras, Barton Gellman/The Washington Post, The New York Times, the Guardian, and ProPublica.
Is it now the official view of the Obama administration that these journalists and media outlets are “accomplices” in what they regard as Snowden’s crimes? If so, that is a rather stunning and extremist statement. Is there any other possible interpretation of Clapper’s remarks?
posted by Glenn Greenwald | 10:41 AM
Habbabkuk
you certainly do not Live in the Uk…those of us who do, and are concerned about human rights, and international Laws…almost EVERY DAY…come up against bbc lies, and Gov.com war propaganda – which is in itself a crime in international law… that you attempt to hold up the bbc criminals over the latest Palestinian killing is very telling.
Your most recent slur on Mary is out of order…and also an insult to many of Craig’s posters. Alcanon put forward valid points… and you turn to the bbc….. champions of truth…i think not…i think, that well over 1 million innocent people are dead today… because of the bbc lies, in several countries, latest being Syria… And the war crime of bbc Propaganda goes on, and on, and on.
Most of the posters on Craig’s Blog who post about Israeli crimes, do so mindful that they ARE CRIMES in international law.
Example – For the second time in only a few hours posters here have put up the same link to Israeli violations of international law in 2013, this survey was not compiled by Craig, or his Posters.
As for the politician’s made up word antisemite…. over due time to Bin it…. Racism… now that’s a real word
Someone. 8 46pm
Thanks for the link.
German GDP €2.7 Trillion…..Deutsche Bank Total Derivative Exposure €55.6 Trillion.
”Derivatives are what Warren Buffet dubbed “weapons of financial mass destruction.”
Aside from more bankers leaping from high places, what happens when this one gets found out?
Fujisan
“Your most recent slur on Mary is out of order…and also an insult to many of Craig’s posters. Alcanon put forward valid points… and you turn to the bbc….. champions of truth”
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I think you’ll find that it was Mary who turned to the BBC, as it was she who provided a link to an article on the BBC website. (Ref: Mary’s post at 22h25 yesterday). Don’t try it on.
Especially for Alastair Campbell and Lynton Crosby.
Spin Doctors
by Charles Fraser / January 29th, 2014
Post modern soothsayers
turning lies into truth
Incompetence into
misunderstood genius
spinning, spinning, spinning,
day and night
weaving mixed messages and half truths
spinning common straw into uncommon gold
Corporate owned media
angling, fishing, predicting, 24/7
non-stop, over clover and under cover,
finally, a metamorphous achieved:
From bungling idiot, into mistaken, taken for granted
Good ole boy, president Bush.
Died in the wool,
insightful complex visionary
from shame to fame….
and lame to gain, it is a miracle!!
Lead to gold
Democracy merely an illusion
the truth, what about the truth?
Spin doctors watch their spinning wheel go round and round
never touching the ground
quick silver spin
They really like to watch them spin
There’s much spinning to do
They are tops at spinning the truth.
http://dissidentvoice.org/2014/01/spin-doctors/
Miliband appears to have a team headed by Rowan Williams’ ex secretary, Tim Livesey.
http://www.newstatesman.com/2013/06/who%E2%80%99s-team-ed
Couldn’t make it up.
Please don’t feed the trolls. As much as I really appreciate people coming to my defence, it only provides the troupe with a platform to hurl more of their stuff at me.
They remind me of the TV programme ‘One Man and His Dog’ where one of the tasks of the border collies and their handlers is to isolate one marked sheep and detach it from the group. They will not succeed however.
Incidentally I never said anything about the ethnic origins of Johansson. The RI (Resident Interrogator) did. I neither know nor care. I just know that she is aiding a cruel occupation by supporting an Israeli manufacturer. Susan Sarandon was supporting an Israeli blood diamond dealer Lev Leviev by attending an opening of one of his stores.
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I came across these videos of another actress, a fine one in this case, Vanessa Redgrave. She speaks out.
Vanessa Redgrave’s ‘Zionist Hoodlums’ Speech Shocks Hollywood http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeGWxHvKs48
The context is here.
‘When Redgrave was nominated for an Oscar in 1978, for her role in Julia, members of the Jewish Defense League (JDL), led by Rabbi Meir Kahane, burned effigies of Redgrave and picketed the Academy Awards ceremony to protest against both Redgrave and her support of the Palestinian cause.’
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanessa_Redgrave#Julia.2C_The_Palestinian_and_the_Oscar_controversy
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This one too where she condemns the Israeli attack on Gaza, 2008/9 Cast Lead, named for the dreidls given to children for the festival. The spinning toys used to made of lead. How cruel in the light of the number of Palestinian children in that onslaught.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcghebMywSI
Interesting that the link to this video of Craig speaking at the massive protest on Saturday 10 January 2009, entitled ‘Former British Ambassador Craig Murray Stop Gaza Massacre protest..’ doesn’t work.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DkldhMYlRM
‘An error occurred. Please try again later.’
O/T but pertinent to this blog re: Liam Fox Werrity
http://www.digitaljournal.com/pr/1707143
Radio 4 Today were putting out more anti Assad propaganda this morning, by repeating Clapper’s assertion that biological weapons such as anthrax and ricin were being manufactured. Sarah Montague spoke to this person in the studio to elaborate.
http://www.militaryspeakers.co.uk/speakers/hamish-de-bretton-gordon-obe.aspx
He said the project to remove chemical weapons had virtually failed. Why is that? I thought that the OPCW had been tasked with the work.
http://www.opcw.org/special-sections/the-opcw-and-syria/
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America’s director of intelligence James Clapper has told a Senate committee that Syria may be able to produce biological weapons. Hamish De Bretton Gordon, former commanding officer of the UK’s Joint Chemical, Biological, Radiological and Nuclear Regiment, discusses.
This will get them spitting feathers.
‘Edward Snowden has been nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize
Edward Snowden spent the last year revealing some of the government’s most tightly held secrets, kicking off a massive debate about the proper role of America’s intelligence services. Now, a pair of Norwegian politicians have nominated the NSA leaker for a Nobel Peace Prize.
In their nomination letter, Baard Vegar Solhjell and Snorre Valen, who hail from the Socialist Left party, said Snowden’s revelations “contributed to a more stable and peaceful world order.”‘
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2014/01/29/edward-snowden-has-been-nominated-for-a-nobel-peace-prize/
Nevermind:
‘UEA is surrounded by three massive schools and twice daily the whole area is in deep traffic doodoo, UEA needs more than buses and cycles, its car park is bursting with cars from staff and students.
UEA’s recycling policy is quaint and outsourced when this money should be returned and aid students. The student union is run like a business now and it has some 6 million profits at anyone time, not that this has much improved their Waterfront venue, only the student bars on campus get regular makeovers to the tune of hundreds of thousands…’ (continues)
All sadly true. Also true to say that for anyone outside the (faceless) management cabal, they would indeed ‘do different’. Unfortunately UEA is run by accountants, for accountants. Like the rest of this increasingly unpleasant country.
Only us mamluks have the strength to clear Gods good earth of this wayward permutation. Ask Izzy Demski !
Scarlett does the right thing. I#ll hang onto her CD after all.
http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/world-news/scarlett-johansson-quits-oxfam-role-after-sodastream-west-bank-row.1391066713
Google and YouTube Suppress Russian Documentary on False Flag Terrorism
A study by Elizabeth Woodworth, a former manager of library services for the British Columbia Ministry of Health, suggests that the Google and YouTube websites, two of the world’s most dominant internet portals, worked to bury the Russia Today (RT) network’s Truthseeker series episode examining the history of “false flag” terrorism, and the relationship between the events of September 11, 2001 and “Operation Gladio.”
Operation Gladio was a covert program backed by Western intelligence agencies from the late 1960s thru the early 1980s. During this time civilians in several European nations were terrorized in a series of deadly shootings and bombings ostensibly blamed on left wing political organizations. The state-sponsored terror was intended to influence public opinion toward such groups.
With its September 8, 2013 debut on YouTube, RT’s Truthseeker episode notched 131,000 views in three days. Yet as the anniversary of 9/11 approached, YouTube curiously pulled the video from its search results, despite other popular channels like the MOXNEWS reposting it. “In both the RT and MOXNEWS cases,” Woodworth observes, “the viewer statistics on YouTube suddenly flat-lined on the morning of September 11 — like a heart monitor when a patient dies. The YouTube search engine had suddenly failed to locate these videos … The MOXNET version was also decoupled from the YouTube search engine for a period of time after September 11, but has since been restored to normal indexing.”
Source: Elizabeth Woodworth, “Search Engine Manipulation. Google and YouTube Suppress Controversial 9/11 Truth?” Global Research, October 5, 2013, http://www.globalresearch.ca/search-engine-manipulation-google-and-youtube-suppress-911-truth/5352982.
Student Researcher: Zack Kelberman (Florida Atlantic University)
Faculty Evaluator: James F. Tracy (Florida Atlantic University)
http://www.projectcensored.org/google-youtube-suppress-russian-documentary-false-flag-terrorism/
Oona King (Baroness King of Bow)
Voted very strongly for a wholly elected House of Lords
What a hypocrite
Our resident pain in the backside muttered something like
“Failing, once again, to make the top spot on a page, habby is trying to make out that the OBN and establishment are innocent, that its all down to the proletariat/unions who fleeced poor manufacturing until it was uncompetitive.”
Another often perpetuated lie to cover up the incompetence and viral stupidity of the stiff upper lips on boards of manufacturing companies. It was the greed of shareholders that forever pulled money out of companies, rather than to invest 10% of profits in R&D, take take take and never reinvest and those useless lackey CEO’s could do nothing accept carp and spar with the unions. The result was that a massively undertooled and decrapid manufacturing, car/motorcycle/ship building, your choice, lost market shares to shoddy workmanship that could not iron out intolerances, tried to continue with old machines (Triumph used machinery from 1889 to drill out their cylinder bore’s until 1976)to make customers happy with badly fitting parts, cars were bonnets and boots didn’t close due to incomp[etence of management.
Customers began to realise that Japanese cars and bikes worked, that they started in the morning and would not leave oil on the pavement. They choose foreign cars/bikes/computers/ because they worked and all the ‘made in Britain’ could not stop the rot.
The OBN and its shareholders, short termist banks demanding their shareholders annuities in time, all the time and with annual increases, regardless of strikes or bad sales figures, all this combined has left manufacturing to flee abroad, thanks to the fortuiutous global trade rounds negotiate, they could carry on over there with their futile agenda.
Britain never realised that being on top meant investing in new processes and methods of manufacturing, instead they went to war with the unions rather than inviting them on to the board and make it work for all.
The British establishment and the unions, I do not absolve them, in their insane self destruction have been pissing manufacturing into the wind, dear offender Habbakuk, go read up about the history of the British motorcycling/car industry.
Have nothing to do with Johansson. She had a ‘difference of opinion’ with Oxfam and resigned. Goldring of Oxfam should have acted much earlier and dumped her.
She should now do the right thing and dump Messrs Cohen and Birnbaum of Sodastream based at Airport City in Israel but she will not, as she is obviously a Zionist.
The Herald Scotland piece casts some doubt on the ownership of the land on which Sodastream is based at the settlement – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ma'ale_Adumim. The land was stolen from the Palestinians in the Six Day War and should be returned.
The shareholders in Airport City where the Sodastream HQ is based are –
•Bank Leumi Investment Company Ltd. – a subsidiary of the leading bank in Israel
•The JOEL Group – Jerusalem Oil Exploration Ltd. – a group of public investment companies (traded on the Tel Aviv and the New York stock markets) focused on energy and real estate
•Parol Investments and Trade 1999 Ltd. – a private company, owned by Adv. Shraga Biran and Adv. Gideon Hatuka, who are among the leading real estate experts in Israel
Airport City Ltd. is a public company, traded on the Tel Aviv Stock Exchange. It is counted among the 100 largest companies in Israel. Airport City Ltd. is the entrepreneur, the designer, the developer and the owner of the successful “Airport City” industrial park.
http://www.airport-city.co.il/en/location.php
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It is now also up to Mr Andy Street and his ‘partners’ in John Lewis to stop stocking Sodastream products and also Caterpillar model toys. Caterpillar machines are used to demolish Palestinian homes for settlement construction. His oppo at Waitrose, part of John Lewis, should also stop stocking produce like avocados and Medjool dates, labelled as Israeli, but grown on stolen Palestinian land. The same goes for the CoOp, Tesco, Morrisons, Sainsbury’s, Lidl and the rest of them. They are collaborators in the Zionist project known as Israel.
Someone
29 Jan, 2014 – 4:58 pm
“email from Prof. Dr. Ebrahim Afsah Faculty of Law University of Copenhagen to Corsera students”
Yes very interesting Someone.
“I have thus been informed that my students in Cuba, Syria, Sudan and my homeland will no longer be able to access this course.”
As all the courses from Coursera are online the Prof’s email exposes the lie of western propaganda that Cubans have little or no access to the internet.
Doug Yes I noticed that about King too. She vacillates continuously. The other day I went back to her old speeches in the ‘House’ on TheyWorkForYou. At one moment she is full of praise for GW Bush and sees him as the saviour of the Western world and then later she is full of criticism. Typical of that lot of BLiar babes who came in in 1997. Mayday 1997 was a black day for this country and the world.
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/peer/10341/baroness_king_of_bow
Some evil person calling himself Abel Reuben has just commented on this blog trying to get predominantly sick and unemployed people into debt from which they might never recover. Purporting to help people on benefits with a benefit loan the company he represents charges 1737% APR. How low can anyone sink?
My advice if you are in debt it to go to Citizens’ Advice (I know a lot of these have been deliberately closed from lack of funding from this despicable government. Speak to friends.
This Abel Reuben falls below my contempt.