Dashing off to London now to do an interview with George Galloway for his crowd sourced documentary “The Killing of Tony Blair”. Sounds less like a film, more like a good idea.
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“It was the NSDAP who made out that Versailles was the bain for all of Germany, that it stifled its re development. AH used this to his advantage, lamenting how downtrodden and aweful the agreement was for Germany.”
Well yes there could be a lot of that in it. Extremists seeking power will always find some alleged grievances to rally the people behind them whether it’s “The Rhineland is ours and they stole it” or “The oil fields are ours and they stole them”.
Many have argued that Versailles was more than generous to Germany.
Sofia and cluborlov must have been purchasing too many meerkats, the Ukrainian language was crafted in medieval times and it contains aspects of many other languages, which is normal.
‘shut de doer’ in plat deutsch means ‘shut the door’, just an example on how interelations and intonation of words have travelled with trade. I would not be surprised to find Swedish words in the Ukrainian language, after all it was the Vikings who sailed down the Dnjeper trading with the Slavs and Rus.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_language
“As the result of close Slavic contacts with the remnants of Scythian and Sarmatian population north of the Black Sea, lasting into the early Middle Ages, is explained the appearance of voiced fricative γ(h) in modern Ukrainian and some southern Russian dialects, that initially emerged in Scythian and the related eastern Iranian dialects from earlier common Proto-Indo-European g* and gh*.[15][16][17]
Ukrainian traces its roots through the mid-14th century Ruthenian language, a chancellery language of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, back to the early written evidences of 10th century Rus’. Until the end of the 18th century, the written language used in Ukraine was quite different from the spoken, which is one of the key difficulties in tracing the origin of the Ukrainian language more precisely. There is little direct data on the origin of the Ukrainian language. Scholars rely on indirect methods: analysis of typical mistakes in old manuscripts, comparison of linguistic data with historical, anthropological, archaeological ones, etc. Several theories of the origin of Ukrainian language exist.[citation needed]
During the 13th century, when German settlers were invited to Ukraine by the princes of Galicia-Vollhynia, German words began to appear in the language spoken in Ukraine. Their influence would continue under Poland not only through German colonists but also through the Yiddish-speaking Jews. Often such words involve trade or handicrafts. Examples of words of German or Yiddish origin spoken in Ukraine include dakh (roof), rura (pipe), rynok (market), kushnir (furrier), and majster (master or craftsman).[18]”
“Ukrainian is a village dialect”
How is that not racist?
As it is by a Slav, about Slavs, not at all. Though it’s arguably untrue: Ukrainian is more than a dialect of Russian.
I am intentionally missing your point, though, which is to denigrate a commentator by association with a remark peripheral to the actual discussion, made by someone else. Rather than having anything whatever useful to say about Ukrainian nationalism. Which, applying your criteria, is racist…
Beat me to it, Nevermind. But “‘shut de doer’ in plat deutsch means ‘put wood i’ th’ oyl’ in Old Lancashire. 🙂
Habba with news release yesterday on the possibility of Fluoridation of our water supplies, with your current interest in the vaccination programs how do you fell about this news.
http://fluoridealert.org/articles/fluoride-facts/
The article does indeed suggest that through experience and trials that this practice would not achieve the intended outcome of protection against tooth decay.
I remember a decade or so ago a news release that tooth bacteria could be rendered harmless through a scientific process. I kind of sterilisation of the aggressive nature of bacterial.
A genetic modification. I have not heard of this since, health and well being are paramount and our right to choose as well. More Dental care could be instigated without much doing, have we the capacity to teach and train dentist and open up more practices.
Know any crocodiles?
captcha problems??? is seven plus seven not 14 anymore???
I leave it to others to judge whether the reparations were too lenient, I heard that it was only in 2010 that Germany managed to pay off the WW1 debts, Fred, it lingered.
http://content.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2023140,00.html
Historians will always differ slightly depending on what their interest are tied to, patriotism demands etc. At a time when a country is down and defeated such treaties can grind somewhat, but you have to be in such position to be able to judge it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Versailles
“The treaty forced Germany to disarm, make substantial territorial concessions, and pay reparations to certain countries that had formed the Entente powers. In 1921 the total cost of these reparations was assessed at 132 billion Marks (then $31.4 billion or £6.6 billion, roughly equivalent to US $442 billion or UK £284 billion in 2014). At the time economists, notably John Maynard Keynes predicted that the treaty was too harsh—a “Carthaginian peace”, and said the figure was excessive and counter-productive. The historian Sally Marks judged the reparation figure to be lenient, a sum that was designed to look imposing but was in fact not, that had little impact on the German economy and analysed the treaty as a whole to be quite restrained and not as harsh as it could have been.”
On topic. Wow.
No unpleasantness intended, Craig, but, knowing your view on independence, do you really want to be associated with Galloway?
http://www.fifetoday.co.uk/news/local-headlines/galloway-delivers-a-big-naw-at-glenrothes-event-1-3353018
“As it is by a Slav, about Slavs, not at all.”
So Slavs cannot be racist about other Slavs?
Wow, what a shot in the foot, Ba’al Zevul, and well in advance of the referendum… Will this leave Galloway having to prove he’s from Scotland?
and what of this vanity, what a posey picture, fit for an actor….
“What strikes me as rather odd, indeed very odd is that Germany’s first world war war graves are abondoned and neglected TODAY, ”
Not my experience at all. Germany has it’s own war graves commission which cares for these places although I understand they are rarely visited. The largest is at Neuville St Vaast, near Arras. I went there a few years ago as part of a tour of the Somme and Ypres.
http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/photo-gallery-german-war-diaries-recall-horror-of-wwi-fotostrecke-61176-3.html
Each cross marks four graves and the headstones you can see here and there mark the graves of Jewish soldiers. I’m told none of these was damaged or desecrated during the occupation of France during WW2.
So Slavs cannot be racist about other Slavs?
No. They’re the same race. Geddit? When your Reform rabbi is nasty about the chazar down the road, that’s not racism either….
The word you’re reaching for is “nationalist”. And trying to smear someone with what someone else has said, legally, in another country, is “cretinous”.
“and what of this vanity, what a posey picture, fit for an actor….”
He seems undecided between Clint Eastwood and Noel Coward, doesn’t he? A bent and filthy cigarillo in an embossed ivory cigarette holder is all the picture needs. I can guarantee he has a chair marked ‘Director’ and a clapperboard within easy reach.
Thanks Kempe, but you are being picky by showing us the largest, best kept and winner in all categories… its not a big draw for those now very elderly Germans who were humiliated to believe under the following regime that their children died a shameful death and that Elsass was more important than the versailles treaty per se.
As for todays generation and those of voting age, they are living in the here and now, not in the past, they are not regularly choked, at least once/week, with never ending articles about the second great unpleasantness, so they care more about bilateral and German politics today, and that the same ugly issues are flogged to death, literally, once again, by wolfs in sheepskin.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/11/14/nsu-n14.html
and a flurry of different articles on the NPD and murderous NSU from der Spiegel
http://www.spiegel.de/international/topic/right_wing_extremism/
Being involved means that beer swilling characters such as Nigel would find it a tad harder going to persuade anybody else but the ultra conservatives, he would get a rough ride.
A Node’s point (24 March at 3.57 pm) about the media bias against the Yes campaign and the BBC’s attempts to discredit the authors of the report needs to be put in context. The BBC displays a far stronger bias against radical political and social voices on many other subjects, so for the bias in favour of the No campaign to be only 3:2 is far less marked than I would have expected, especially when both Coalition parties and the official opposition at Westminster are also in the No camp. Given that the report sets out evidence of BBC bias, it’s hardly surprising – even if regrettable – that the BBC puts some effort into discrediting the authors. What really matters would be evidence of the BBC using deliberate untruths to do so.
I agree with your analysis, Ian, I would have expected some more flak by now, but then its a fine line to steer, one would not want to disaffected all those undecided, not to rake too much ill feeling, they realised what happened after Camerons last jibe.
My guess is that they are working up to it, slowly, touchy feely, and in the final two weeks this will turn into a crescendo of pro union articles and scenarios.
First they will have the hard task to ignore the EU elections as much as possible, one would not want to disturb the public with elections, after all its only the party faithful that should have a say… feeling sick whilst writing this….
Disband… break up and reform, with all skeletons unearthed, onwards forwards into the 21st century, ripped from its Macheavellian circles it should flourish, and why not?
@Iain Orr
I looked at the research a while back and decided it was totally unscientific and I’m not surprised those who conducted it are refusing to release the raw data.
If the BBC interviewed Alex Salmond and he said Scotland would have monetary union, then they interviewed the Governor of the Bank of England, the Chancellor and the Shadow Chancellor and they all said they wouldn’t, that would be seen as bias by 3 to 1.
There was criticism of George Galloway earlier, I can’t comment on what he said I don’t know what he said but the article indicated he was talking about the issues not screaming “unfair”, “bias”, scaremongering” at the opposition. Someone seemed to think he should be ostracised and branded the enemy for this and his other views on the Middle East and the Iraq War loyal flag waving Nationalists should distance themselves from.
“Someone seemed to think he should be ostracised and branded the enemy for this and his other views on the Middle East and the Iraq War loyal flag waving Nationalists should distance themselves from.”
Not me. I pointed out that he was, with the obnoxious Brian Wilson, promoting the No campaign. I guess loyal, sash-wearing Unionists will want to ally themselves with him*…maybe that’s naif of me?
Heh.
*He’s a left-footer…you want to stir it, fine.
No. They’re the same race. Geddit?
Well that may have been the view of Nazis – but per Wikipedia
“Modern nations and ethnic groups called by the ethnonym Slavs are considerably diverse both genetically and culturally, and relations between them – even within the individual ethnic groups themselves – are varied, ranging from a sense of connection to mutual feelings of hostility”
Now of course Cluborlov – who you right is an extreme nationalist – may have the view that Ukrainians are some kind of inferior people over which Putin and his clique are entitled to exercise authority – but rather than quoting him with approval as a number of people here have (not just Sofia), perhaps they could recognise that extreme nationalism/racism exists on the Russian side of the equation.
If people want to quote chunks of extreme nationalists/racists then they should learn not to be so defensive when their cut and paste efforts are not subject to attack.
…fine…
http://nationalcollective.com/2013/10/16/just-say-naw-to-george-galloway/
Regarding George Galloway I think you have to look for common ground, like the scrapping of Trident, rather than condemn him for having an opinion on the Yes/No vote for Scotland’s independence. After all, last year, I would have said the same thing, mostly because I believe in unity rather than division. But when David Cameron got his Tory business colleagues to say they would move shop from Scotland if it became independent, and deliberately cause a loss of Scottish jobs, that was the despicable trick that changed my mind. Go for it Scotland! Set an example that England can follow.
“If people want to quote chunks of extreme nationalists/racists then they should learn not to be so defensive when their cut and paste efforts are not (sic – BZ) subject to attack.”
I’ll add that to the “Young Ladies’ Manual of Etiquette When Contributing One’s Thoughts to the Blog of HE. C. Murray”, shall I? Along with all your mates’ unsourced opinions?
You were simply having a go at the messenger. I have yet to see you attempt to discuss the message.
Not one paltry signature. Now why is that I wonder?
INVASION OF IRAQ 2003
Session: 2013-14
Date tabled: 20.03.2014
Primary sponsor: Galloway, George
Sponsors:
That this House recalls that it was 11 years ago on 20 March 2003 that the first missiles hit Baghdad, signalling what was dubbed shock and awe, the start of the US-led attack on Iraq in which the UK participated; further recalls that the premise on which the war was launched was that Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction, based in large part on false dossiers produced by the then Government; notes that there were no weapons of mass destruction as the Iraqi government said at the time and as independent witnesses had verified; believes that this House and the British public were gravely and deliberately misled; mourns the thousands of men, women and children who died as a result of these falsehoods; and concludes that this was the greatest British foreign policy disaster in living memory.
Total number of signatures: 1
Galloway, George Respect Bradford West 20.03.2014
A. Because nearly all of them voted for it.
News from DoH, Richmond House, Whitehall. They have a large team in their media and press office numbering 26.
https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/department-of-health/about/media-enquiries
There seems to be no attempt to counter reports like these below or to propose remedial action from Mr Unt. All in today’s Guardian.
NHS workers’ views are ‘damning indictment of Jeremy Hunt’s record’
A year after the radical restructure of the service, a Guardian survey finds staff under ever greater pressure
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/mar/26/nhs-workers-damning-indictment-jeremy-hunt
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Simon Stevens, the new head of NHS England, has a daunting task ahead
With staffing problems, low morale, the need to move services out of hospitals, a £30bn funding gap and little room for manoeuvre, the incoming chief executive will need all his skills
Note he moves seamlessly from the privatised sector, United Health.
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/mar/26/simon-stevens-nhs-england-daunting-task
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Cuts have left 250,000 older people without state care, report says
Report warns there is no way of assessing the true impact that social care cuts are having on vulnerable older people
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/mar/26/cuts-vulnerable-older-people-without-state-social-care
Also from today’s Guardian on cuts of a different kind.
Lawrence family lawyer Imran Khan: ‘We see what the state is capable of’
Imran Khan has been routinely portrayed as an anti‑establishment troublemaker. Now, in the wake of the Ellison report on police corruption, he explains how it feels to be vindicated
http://www.theguardian.com/law/2014/mar/25/stephen-lawrence-family-lawyer-imran-khan-state-capable-police
‘Khan tried politics once, as a candidate for the Socialist Labour Party. He won’t again. “That was a horrible experience,” he says, chuckling. “I am not a politician in a sense of being able to say things to all people.” And yet the impact political decisions have on ordinary lives troubles him greatly. The £215m cuts to the legal aid budget, for example. “I am working twice as hard as I used to, with half or a third of the money I used to get. Not to put too dramatic a point on it, if the Lawrence case landed on my desk today I wouldn’t take it. There are not enough hours to be able to make enough money on legal aid to be able to survive. I did Lawrence on a pro-bono basis.”
He’s hamstrung now. “It is my biggest regret that I have to have conversations with families and say you deserve better, but I can’t help you. What will happen is that society won’t get the benefit of those cases. You don’t need to have inquiries and spend lots of money if you have lawyers who are challenging courts in individual cases and making law. If we had the bedrock of reliable public funding, we would be able to do a lot more. I can’t imagine there is going to be another Lawrence case for a long time – if ever.”‘
ESLO
26 Mar, 2014 – 9:27 am
As quoted by Sofia from cluborlov:
“Ukrainian is a village dialect”
“How is that not racist?”
ESLO, please explain why you think it IS racist.
BubbleZubble (08h32)
What’s your problem, Bubble? You asked a question and I answered it. Disappointed?
Mary
“Another sneaky flogging off of state assets to a favoured few. I don’t suppose any of us were offered Lloyds Bank shares, even if we wanted them. Osborne has procured £4.2bn. All done on the old boys’ network over lavish lunches no doubt. We don’t even get to know who bought them so open is our ‘society’.”
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You’re talking nonsense as usual.
The shares were sold directly to institutional investors and in that way the govt maximised the takings since no commission or fees needed to be paid to handling agents. You should be pleased about that, surely? After all, the money raised by the govt will be ploughed into social security, the NHS, debt reduction and many other good things you surely approve of.
Secondly, there is nothing unusual about this procedure. For example, it is usual for companies to place a share offering with institutional investors.
Thirdly, there is nothing to stop you, Mary, asking your stockbroker to buy you some Lloyds Bank shares on the market.
And lastly, you can find out, at Companies House, who are the shareholders in any publicly quoted company.
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You really must learn to think before posting! Knee jerk posts – as you will have seen from your silly, silly post on infant vaccinations – can make you look foolish and get you into hot water.
Nevermind
“The amalgamation of France’ national front by the UMP conservatives, their ‘coordination’ with the national front in two seats is a worrying development, all over Europe the fascists are gaining with simple slogans and beer drinking gags.”
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I sympathise with your anguish, but I wouldn’t get my knickers in such a twist if I were you. You mention “two seats”” – are you aware of the total number of seats being contested in France at these elections?
“Thanks Kempe, but you are being picky by showing us the largest, best kept and winner in all categories ”
Well so far no evidence at all has been presented to support the claim that these cemeteries are being neglected.