One of my oldest and dearest friends has gone public on his support for Scottish Independence. I am greatly cheered by this. More thoughts later.
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Hopefully it will be a landslide. Beware of mass emigration from England.
I want to move to Scotland, vote “Yes” and hope for independence. If anyone knows somewhere I could stay, a room in a shared house or something, while I look for a place, please e-mail me.
Off this topic but have you heard the news about Gulnara Karimova Craig? Under house arrest etc.
‘Bring power closer to the people of Scotland’ –
That’s sound.
That’s real.
That’s for sure.
Placing Scotland’s future in Scotland’s hands is something that must be done.
As am I, having known him from University days. I was especially heartened by his coherent reasoning in making what, for him, will have been a difficult decision but, having been made, will lift a weight I’m sure
Apparently the UK has the 5th highest ‘defense’ spending after the US, China, Russia and Saudi Arabia. No way an independent Scotland would continue that obscene profligacy.
Let’s hear more publicity about the Peace Divident.
If the people of Scotland vote for independence from the UK, I will respect their decision. But I hope they vote to stay in the UK.
Abe, and when the people of Scotland vote against independence, I hope the Nat Socs on here will respect their decision.
Node: “Apparently the UK has the 5th highest ‘defense’ spending after the US, China, Russia and Saudi Arabia. No way an independent Scotland would continue that obscene profligacy.”
That is because an independent Scotland would be about as relevant on the world stage as Moldova, and probably as well off.
“I hope the Nat Socs on here will respect their decision.”
Saw what you did there. But gather round, and I’ll tell you about the 1745 Anschluss…
“That is because an independent Scotland would be about as relevant on the world stage as Moldova, and probably as well off.”
As Fred would say, can I see your figures? And are they based on the assumption that the freedom n’ democracy flagflappers round here would respect a Yes decision to the extent of not interfering in Scotland’s new international alignment?
Anon 26 Mar, 2014 – 1:25 pm
…or grab the Hebrides back?
http://www.smh.com.au/world/russia-stages-exercises-in-breakaway-moldova-region-of-transnistria-20140326-zqmyi.html
Moldova’s not the best example you could have chosen, is it?
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/aug/10/scotland-land-rights
It’s political independence which will be wholly orchestrated from the present dichotomy.
The big decisions on revenue and expenditure should be transparent and the ability of Scotland’s independence to restructure should not be in doubt. For the ability of the British parliament, we can all question in our language.
“Lang may yer lum reek”
You do to the English language what Cumberland did to the Highlands.
Wonder if the articles about the ship-building of those two aircraft carriers at Rothsay has anything to do with it – what would be left in some limbo if Scotland breaks up Britain?
Ben-William Wallace
26 Mar, 2014 – 1:38 pm
“Lang may yer lum reek”
Tell Ben tae come ben. If Ben doesnae come ben, tell Ben I’ll be ben to bring Ben ben.
“A’m leukin swatchin for John.”
Sorry. That’s the extent of my vocabulary. 🙂
One thing is for certain if a majority of us here in Scotland do vote Yes in September, we can kiss goodbye to future Royal Navy contracts. The rUK government will re-open the Portsmouth yard to massive acclaim while what is left of Scotland’s heavy industry goes down the pan.
Good job there is so much talk from the SNP about a ‘fairer society’ ie. enhanced welfare and benefits as there will be many who are going to require that safety net.
You Scots are being conned by your so called “Independence”
* The Queen will still be your head of state. Long rule the Saxe Coburg Gotha’s! [not] Wise up the power of the crown
* You will not have your own money. So you will be enslaved in the western debt based money system still
Don’t tell me that you will change this later on. That is just wishful thinking. And disingenuous too. If that is what you intend then it should be on the ballot
The globalists always want to divide and rule. They want you to be “Independent”. Please don’t fall for their con
http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/andrew-andy-myles/21/754/643
Be interested to know what he thinks of the LD creeps occupying ministerial jobs in the cruel coalition we were landed with.
See my links on the deteriorating NHS on the previous thread. One example yet alone the warmongering in Libya and the attempt to do the same in Syria, etc etc.
“Apparently the UK has the 5th highest ‘defense’ spending after the US, China, Russia and Saudi Arabia. No way an independent Scotland would continue that obscene profligacy.
Let’s hear more publicity about the Peace Divident.”
Yes I know people here who are in the armed forces and part of that money feeds their wives and children.
Defence supports a lot of families in Scotland.
“* You will not have your own money. So you will be enslaved in the western debt based money system still”
Scotland already have their own currency, independent of the rest of the UK, not controlled in any way by the Bank of England.
The Scottish pound is worth the same as a UK pound for the sole reason the issuing banks promise to pay the bearer one UK pound for one.
This system could continue in an independent Scotland, Scotland could keep reserves of sterling to back their currency or they could decide to back their currency with something else. The only difference is that Scotland would have to fund their own lender of last resort and the UK tax payer wouldn’t be forced to bail out Scotland in the event of economic collapse.
fred 26 Mar, 2014 – 3:35 pm
Spend the peace dividend on hospitals and schools – let those ‘defence’ workers be nurses and teachers.
My best wishes to the Scots in whatever they choose.
I should say though, in my experience independence movements are rarely, if ever, the endogenous affairs many imagine.
Craig recently denied the large part played by the West in fomenting the Ukrainian coup.
Here however is a detailed analysis of how the West organised that coup:
“Meet the Americans Who Put Together the Coup in Kiev”
http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2014/march/25/meet-the-americans-who-put-together-the-coup-in-kiev.aspx
Beware billionaires bearing freedom and democracy.
“Spend the peace dividend on hospitals and schools – let those ‘defence’ workers be nurses and teachers.”
To be honest I don’t think my friends would make good nurses or teachers, that’s why they joined the navy.
Anon
“Abe, and when the people of Scotland vote against independence, I hope the Nat Socs on here will respect their decision.”
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It depends what you mean by “respect”, Anon.
In practical terms they will respect it, of course, if only because they have no say and no influence in the wider world outside the bubble of this blog. They will have no choice but to respect it.
But in mental terms they will of course not respect it. As various posts on previous threads have already shown, they will find a hundred and one reasons for claiming that the referendum was unfair (threats, media bias, disinformation, etc etc zzzzzz…).
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PS – teacher’s apple for Mr John Goss (first comment on this thread, posted a mere 21 minutes after the thread opened)
Herbie reveals something interesting:
“I should say though, in my experience independence movements are rarely, if ever, the endogenous affairs many imagine.”
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I had no idea that you had experience of independence movements, Herbie!
Would be fascinated to get more detail – which independence movements do you have experience of? And what was your rôle in them?
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