One of my oldest and dearest friends has gone public on his support for Scottish Independence. I am greatly cheered by this. More thoughts later.
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““Does not seem to have stopped your shameful, or is it shameless, continued appearance on this blog when everybody knows your repeated sock-changing habits. I could never have such shame.”
And what about the shame of using this blog for many months to campaign against the extradition of these terrorists convicted on their own admission
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25322782
Or the shame of trying to silence those with alternative views to his own.”
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Or the shame of squatting on Craig’s blog, which, as far as I’m aware, is not dedicated to mindless anti-West prejudice and adoration for any tin-pot honcho who “stands up to” the West.
Impudent as well – the squatter presumes to tell guests on someone else’s blog what they can and cannot say and even tries to issue directions to the blog owner!
“..if you look at the link I provided you will see that the latest increase goes further than removing a price subsidy but involves Russia imposing an export duty on the gas it provides to the Ukraine.”
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Well, there you are, Mr Scorgie! What say you now? Facts + link!
Mary 9:03pm
“It was sent to me by a Palestinian friend who lost a child and a relative in Matan Vilnai’s promised ‘greater shoah’ on Gaza, Cast Lead 27 December 2008-18 January 2009.”
Yep, we’ve all had them. Ask anyone who’s visited Pakistan whether they’ve had emails about friends and family killed in earthquakes and floods, only to discover the money they ask for is being diverted to jihadi groups.
You need to exercise at least some degree of caution, Mary.
@pedant
No I’ll be magnanimous and get my apology in first. Sorry.
Satisfied – I trust you’ll be equally rigorous in getting others to apologise in the appropriate terms – but I’m not holding my breath.
“Why don’t you back up your claims Kempe ie “Yanukovitch formally resigned” and “he’s tried to retract his resignation”?
Perhaps you could provide links to prove your case?”
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When I read Mr Scorgie’s (invariably belated) comments I sometimes feel like posting “the earth goes around the sun” and waiting to see if he’ll ask me to provide links 🙂
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Good to see our old friend Rehmat1 is a regular contributor to “The Ugly Truth”. All getting a bit incestous!
Further to the above
“Perhaps you could provide links to prove your case”
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Let us say, Mr Scorgie, for the sake of argument, that I posted to the effect that the Jews were the source of all evil, and supplied quotations from “Mein Kampf” as links.
Would I have proved my case by providing those links?
Resident Dissident is sticking his nose in above
No I followed the link to that site and was genuinely disgusted by what I saw. What are we meant to do with the links that you post? I should also say that I find games trying to elevate one brutality above another particularly tasteless who ever is playing.
The three lay members of the Parliamentary Standards Committee could be described as establishment place persons.
Walter Rader
http://ramanujam1.parliament.uk/documents/commons-committees/standards-and-privileges/Walter%20Rader%20-%20Biography.pdf
Sharon Darcy
http://www.parliament.uk/documents/commons-committees/standards-and-privileges/Sharon%20Darcy%20-%20Biography.pdf
Peter Jinman
http://ramanujam1.parliament.uk/documents/commons-committees/standards-and-privileges/Peter%20Jinman%20-%20Biography.pdf
A Node Your smiley look a little lost there in the middle of all that venom. 8 of them in a row. It’s getting really silly.
The three lay members of the Parliamentary Standards Committee could be described as establishment place persons.
They could also be described as a Youth worker in Belfast, a consumer advocate and a vet – all of which most people would see as activities that make a valuable contribution to society unless you are in character assassination mode.
The article Mary linked to is entirely respectable, and was originally published in Haaretz:
http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/jewish-world-news/1.581318
The Ugly Truth site doesn’t look nearly so bad if you follow the link that Mary was sent instead of following Anon’s. Even its home page doesn’t give the impression of Anon’s link. If Mary just followed a link she was sent and read the article, she’d have seen a criticism of the US, a legitimate political cartoon, a picture of an injured child, and nothing like the material returned by Anon’s link.
And no, the site is not a general race-hatred site like Stormfront, but it does seem very derogatory towards Jews in certain places, though you’d be unlikely to notice without following Anon’s link.
Resident Dissident, would I be right in assuming that you followed Anon’s link rather than Mary’s?
Anon, how did you come up with that link, and did you do so in a deliberate attempt to discredit Mary? You certainly seem to have spent more time experimenting with the site than Mary did.
Mary 6 Apr, 2014 – 9:47 pm
I allowed myself a smirk, Mary. You probably missed it, but RD finally, grudgingly, ungraciously, apologised to you two comments above my smiley.
“And no, the site is not a general race-hatred site like Stormfront, but it does seem very derogatory towards Jews in certain places, though you’d be unlikely to notice without following Anon’s link.”
Not a general race-hatred site, just a partial one. Derogatory towards Jews in places, but not in others.
Look at the way you try to bypass and excuse. Can you imagine a site that was pro-Zionist being let off so easily?
Never ceases to amaze me the blind spots from those who so readily flaunt their anti-racist credentials…
Anon, 9:22 pm
Untrue. It has one cartoon of a hook-nosed monster mask, tipping scales in Israel’s direction, repeated several times, and another cartoon of an orthodox Jew (and thus misleading; many orthodox Jews disown Israel, I believe), also repeated. On reflection, not nearly as bad as Stormfront. But still bad.
No “blood sucking”, no “goyim”. You seem to have exaggerated in a dishonest way.
No, Anon, I’m not excusing anything. Not that sites offensive cartoons, and not your dishonesty, either.
Resident Dissident, would I be right in assuming that you followed Anon’s link rather than Mary’s?
No I went to Mary’s link first, then the home page (which is pretty bad) and then Anon’s link.
“I allowed myself a smirk, Mary. You probably missed it, but RD finally, grudgingly, ungraciously, apologised to you two comments above my smiley.”
I look forward to you getting an equally fulsome apology from Sofia for doing the same to Habba for a much longer period – good luck in your efforts.
Resident Dissident, I seem to be suffering from the same sort of dishonest accusations that have been directed at you, though from the opposite direction.
Anon, did you experiment with The Ugly Truth site to find the most offensive material it would serve up?
“No “blood sucking”, no “goyim”. You seem to have exaggerated in a dishonest way.”
Might I suggest that you have a closer look at the front page.
Mod; “ESLO and Resident Dissident both started using new e-mail addresses when posting their first comments after Identicons were enabled. The new email addresses are both based on the respective handles in similar ways”
So the introduction of the Identicons has flushed out one long suspected sock-puppet; I wonder if it was due to the other obvious sock-puppet pushing his luck just too far by using “ferd” & “fffff”, that made the Mods finally act, or maybe even this comment was the trigger;
http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2014/03/andy-myles/comment-page-3/#comment-450435
The crooked and recently imprisoned Yulia Timoshenko has written an article.
http://opinion.inquirer.net/73371/the-yalta-temptation
Hot off the press. No comments yet. Mine, the first, is awaiting approval. I wrote:
“And when will you be paying back all the money you’ve stolen from Ukraine and stashed away in foreign bank accounts Yulia?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/exclusive-uk-banks-in-row-over-yulia-tymoshenko-millions-9177693.html“
Resident Dissident, what did you find most objectionable about The Ugly Truth’s home page? I notice there’s also an there article warning against Jobbik making gains in Hungary. Jobbik are, I believe, racist, and also anti-Jewish.
That site is not a clear-cut anti-Jewish site, is it?
A monster mask, I tell you!
Resident Dissident, I’ve attempted to scroll to the bottom of the home page (is that what you mean by the “front page”?). Javascript keeps extending the page as I scroll down. I kept going until I got bored.
There is various anti-racist material; a warning against Ku Klux Klan recruitment, for instance.
But I still see no blood sucking of “goyim”. What are you referring to?
Anon, why not try jumping up and down? That might make me believe you.
I am just going to bed reflecting on that unpleasant response by Resident Dissident on the bereavement of my Palestinian friend implying some deception. This from someone who has been proved to have carried out deception on this blog.
I can assure him that the deaths of a child and a relative in Gaza were absolutely real and grief is still felt.
UglyTruth is anti-Racist!
Spitting Image – Never met a nice South African:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZjwCmJrnlY
Should I have objected to the racial slur against South Africans?
The first comment appears to have been ditched. It might not like links to other articles. So I tried this.
“The desire of diplomats to find a peaceful solution to Ukraine’s crisis
is understandable. But the terms that Russia is demanding, if accepted
by the West, would fatally undermine Ukraine’s sovereignty; worse,
accepting Russia’s terms would ratify the idea that powerful countries
may bully less powerful neighbors into doing their bidding, to the point
of surrendering their independence”
That sounds like you do not want democracy. You should negotiate and arrive at an amicable agreement that suits everybody, including Russians, who in many Ukrainian cities are seeking representation. Many in the UK, and other European countries, believe a western-funded coup financed by Chatham House, NATO, Swedbank and other big-money donors led to the overthrow of the legitimate government. It seems you could not wait for the elections.