I had fairly well concluded that the most likely cause was a fire disrupting the electrical and control systems, when CNN now say the sharp left turn was pre-programmed 12 minutes before sign off from Malaysian Air Traffic control, which was followed fairly quickly by that left turn.
CNN claim to have this from an US official, from data sent back before the reporting systems went off. It is hard to know what to make of it: obviously there are large economic interests that much prefer blame to lie with the pilots rather than the aircraft. But if it is true then the move was not a response to an emergency. (CNN went on to say the pilot could have programmed in the course change as a contingency in case of an emergency. That made no sense to me at all – does it to anyone else?)
I still find it extremely unlikely that the plane landed or crashed on land I cannot believe it could evade military detection as it flew over a highly militarized region. Somewhere there is debris on the ocean. There have been previous pilot suicides that took the plane with them; but the long detour first seems very strange and I do not believe is precedented. However if the CNN information on pre-programming is correct, and given it was the co-pilot who signed off to air traffic control, it is hard to look beyond the pilots as those responsible for whatever did happen. In fact, on consideration, the most improbable thing is that information CNN are reporting from the US official.
May be it was Roger the Engineer that started the fight? When ever Yard birds fly, that means trouble.
As a note (B flat), the fuselage of the disappeared Air Asia airline is reported to be up side down in the Java sea. Does it mean that it’s cargo was two light, or that the flight crew bailed out with a chute befor it crashed?
Correct: Airbusses, made by a FRENCH company, have this silly posture of being almost identical: you can take a doze-on A320s and they all look the same beside the paint job. A good reason to stick to our British motto “if its not Boeing I am not flying”.
On 16 January 2015, the Indonesian National Transportation Safety Committee (KNKT or NTSC) announced that 124 minutes of cockpit dialogue had been successfully extracted from the cockpit voice recorder and was being transcribed. Data from the flight data recorder was also being converted. It was stated that the KNKT plans to submit a preliminary ADREP report to the ICAO within the required 30 days after the crash, or 27 January 2015.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesia_AirAsia_Flight_8501#Investigation
Flight 8501 seems to have dropped out of the news, lately.
Once a gain, the FRENCH are sending false flags to the pibic, just like with the Charlie mass-acre. Don’t forget they are ‘helping’ those poor guys there transcribe the data.
How could they’re bee 124 minutes of cockpit dialogue when the aircraft dived into the ocean only 50 minutes after take-of? Its obviosly a conspiracy, in the line of 9/11, 7/7 and 7/1.
You bait the report will say it was an accident caused bye bye weather!!!
Has a reminder, Charles de Gaulle has left France a few days a-go, and should be on the scene in the vary near future.
It woz jus bad weather
Mr Hananto told BBC Indonesian that investigators had listened to the entire two-hour recording, and found that there was “no threatening voice on board.”
This is going to stir things up a bit.
A senior Iranian general was killed in Syria on Sunday following an airstrike believed to have been carried out by Israel.
A statement posted on the website of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard confirmed that General Mohammed Ali Allahdadi was killed in the Syrian Golan Heights
http://news.sky.com/story/1410748/iranian-general-killed-in-israeli-airstrike
“I can’t think of an accident where weather was the sole cause of the problem,” she says. “But there can be a situation where the weather puts the aircraft at a higher risk of going wrong.”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-30631968
” Another crash where the weather was examined as a factor was the Air France plane lost in the Atlantic in 2009.” he says.
Another French-made airbus!
BREAKING BREAKING
In the Air Asia incident, in vestigators who have studied the orange black boxes, are know con-fident the loss of the a/c is an accidant, wheater by hyuaman error (half of the flight crew was FRENCH) or by mechanical problems (the plane was FRENCH).
Two bad we dont no if there where many ‘pings’ or partial ‘handshakes’ other wise Herr James could give us a professional o pinion.
Read more
http://www.straitstimes.com/news/asia/south-east-asia/story/airasia-flight-qz8501-probe-focuses-human-error-plane-damage-2015012
Breaking Breaking
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-30902237
The AirAsia flight that crashed in the Java Sea, killing 162 people, climbed too fast before stalling, Indonesia’s transport minister has said.
Ignasius Jonan told a parliamentary hearing in Jakarta that flight QZ8501 had ascended at a speed of 6,000ft (1,828m) per minute.
No passenger or fighter jet would attempt to climb so fast, he said.
But what nobody would attempt, a FRENCH plane was stupid enough to try, at the cost of almost 200 lives. The UN should forbid this people to fly. Not to mention that they also climb too fast on our females.
No, no. It climbed at 8,000 feet per minute. And next time you ask, it might be 8,000 million-bazillion:
http://www.wsj.com/articles/airasia-jet-climbed-at-rates-beyond-design-of-commercial-planes-1421759312
AirAsia Airbus is the new F-18 Hornet, Mr. Pinocchio.
& A :
Doesn’t it smell FISH?
It would seem that the air Asia QZ8501 airbus
was equipped with
CFM International CFM56-5B6
not sure if we can tell if these pair of engines are made in America or France?
Has far as wee can tale, it is a joint venture. But has we no, it only means the US partner is get-ing the profits, and the FRENCH the dirty work.
Because hoo in the world whould accept to fly on an aircraft if they new the engines were FRENCH?
Good point,
I would only travel in an Airbus if it had proper
English Rolls-Royce Trent engines.
The Airbus Air France Flight 447
was fitted with a pair of
General Electric CF6-80E1A3
that plunged into the sea.
So not Rolls-Royce Trent
However the Boeing 777-2H6ER Flight MH370
did have
Rolls-Royce Trent engines
Rolls-Royce über alles !
In the MH370 incident, they’re is no proof that the plane reilly crashed. And if hit did, it coudnt be beecause of the engines, has they were many pings and partial hand-shakes.
But the french aircraft have long his story of engine fail your: remember the concorde that was in fire be for even taking of!
“It can only be done by a fighter jet.”
If a commercial jetliner could not ascend that fast,
why does the Indonesian “expert” tell the world it did, does he think it was black magic?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-30902237
Don’t trust the BeeBeeCee ( there being taken over by the French ).
Read Craig: it makes him vomeat.
Quote RT
Indonesian divers find 5 bodies belted in seats near AirAsia fuselage
Indonesian divers on Thursday found five bodies belted into their seats near the main section of an AirAsia plane that crashed into the Java Sea last month with 162 people on board, AFP said. The divers hope to reach the fuselage. A total of 58 bodies have now been found following the crash of flight QZ8501 which went down on December 28. Indonesian Transport Minister Ignasius Jonan said earlier that the plane climbed abnormally fast before stalling and plunging into the sea.
FRENCH jetliners seem particularly prawn to be unable to recover from a stall situ ation. Is it because of there side joysticks that pilots seem to be unable to use prop early in ann emergency? Two bad our freund James can nut give us bet her explanations about this factor. After hall, recovering from a stall should bee lesson number one for fly-in.
I sink AIRBUSSES are dangerous. There okey when every thing is fined, butt a major problem has soon has some thing goes wrung.
Quote RT
Four more bodies were recovered and an operation was begun to raise the fuselage of the AirAsia Flight 8501 wreckage from the bottom of the Java Sea on Saturday. The start of the operation comes a day after recovery crews were able to enter the main section of the plane, which crashed on December 28. Bad weather prevented them from entering it earlier in January when it was first spotted. “We have begun the operation today to lift the main body and we hope we can float it today,” one official with the rescue agency told AFP. The authorities blame bad weather on the crash, which took place on a short flight from Surabaya, Indonesia, to Singapore. It has also been established this week that shortly before the plunge, the plane had started a climb at an abnormally high speed. The tragedy claimed 162 lives.
You no alot. May bee ze nex face shoud bee two no ouaille zis moderne airbus l’host control. Like hit hornot, hi fink like James that two munch blame his pout on the Crews hand not enof on the French.
Has one commentator posted upthread: ” Indonesia normally doesn’t do things things anyways. ”
So how hard can it be to tell the world whether they raised the fuselage to the surface or not?
Quote CNN
A monster snow storm is expected to slam into the northeast Monday and Tuesday, dumping what could be up to 3 feet of snow in Boston and New York, with freezing rain and strong gusts — possibly reaching hurricane level — from northern New Jersey through southern Connecticut.
“This could be a storm the likes of which we’ve never seen before,” said New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio.
If any FRENCH aoirplanes are a load to fly in the blizard, how mainy Will dis-appear?
Greek aiplane drops out of the sky over Spain
http://rt.com/news/226383-spain-jet-crash-albacete/
http://www.france24.com/en/20150126-spain-eight-french-citizens-dead-fighter-jet-crash/
en people were killed – eight of whom were French nationals – and several injured after a Greek fighter plane crashed upon takeoff during NATO training in Spain on Monday, Spanish Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy said.
The F-16 crashed about 3:20pm (1420 GMT) as it took off at a training centre in Albacete, 260km (160 miles) southeast of the capital Madrid.