I had fairly well concluded that the most likely cause was a fire disrupting the electrical and control systems, when CNN now say the sharp left turn was pre-programmed 12 minutes before sign off from Malaysian Air Traffic control, which was followed fairly quickly by that left turn.
CNN claim to have this from an US official, from data sent back before the reporting systems went off. It is hard to know what to make of it: obviously there are large economic interests that much prefer blame to lie with the pilots rather than the aircraft. But if it is true then the move was not a response to an emergency. (CNN went on to say the pilot could have programmed in the course change as a contingency in case of an emergency. That made no sense to me at all – does it to anyone else?)
I still find it extremely unlikely that the plane landed or crashed on land I cannot believe it could evade military detection as it flew over a highly militarized region. Somewhere there is debris on the ocean. There have been previous pilot suicides that took the plane with them; but the long detour first seems very strange and I do not believe is precedented. However if the CNN information on pre-programming is correct, and given it was the co-pilot who signed off to air traffic control, it is hard to look beyond the pilots as those responsible for whatever did happen. In fact, on consideration, the most improbable thing is that information CNN are reporting from the US official.
En mor piple where killed. Hat list nine FRENCH. The top armyman gave there names en said some could be wimen. Do the’y have trans-gender pilots in ze French armee? Major James wood no, butt his bisy give-in less ons on the other fred!
They might not want to know?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-30997992
AirAsia probe vets possible computer glitch, crew response
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/01/27/us-indonesia-airplane-computer-pilots-idUSKBN0L00X020150127
From Pink
“The pair of computers comprising the A320’s FAC system is mainly responsible for controlling rudder movements and helping to keep the airplane stable, as well detecting windshear, or sudden changes in wind speed or direction.
Indonesian magazine Tempo reported a series of maintenance problems with the computerized rudder system of that particular aircraft in the days and months before the loss of Flight QZ8501.”
I wonder if this is the reason an engineer was on board?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-31015055
Sounds like the Indonesians don’t even want to find the bodies, never mind not thinking about autopsys, now they don’t even want the wreakage?
Air Asia as bean one of ze bigest customor of Airbusses (French made) thise last few years. They dont want to hurt there reputation
But it seems that the indonesian Authorities want to just get on with their lives, it is just one of those things.
How can they be so disinterested in not finding the real cause of the “accident”
and it they are not going to do autopsy on a single body, how can they know it was not a terrorist attack.
How can they jut know?
Ur rite, MN.
Ore razor, if they no its naught, hit means they no its some fing ell’s, like base hic defect inn the FAC sis-team you’sed by FRENCH airbusses.
Hi new hit! The FRENCH co-pilot was at the con-trols befor the jet stalled. Case solved
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-31034135
The BBC loves the French. If they seem to incriminate the co-pilot, it must be for a good reason
Malaysia officially declares MAS flight MH370 an accident, says DCA
Read more at: http://english.astroawani.com/videos/show/buletin-awani/malaysia-officially-declares-mas-flight-mh370-accident-says-dca-49594?cp
I had thought ( from the Indonesian Authorities) that when things started to go pear shaped that No.1 captain took control from No.2 captain.
If true No.1 captain would have been in charge as it plunged into the sea?
Oh captain, my captain
No body nose theres claas-hics?
Declaring MH370 loss ‘an accident’ is a gift to the reinsurance brokerage companies. Families of the victims can be paid the minimum amount stipulated by international conventions. That’s the main purpose of such statement.
Indonesian officials believed Captain Iriyanto, 53, an Indonesia air force veteran with about 20,000 flying hours logged, had taken over control of the aircraft from his less experienced French co-pilot Remi-Emmanuel Plesel when it started to climb and then descend.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/30/airasia-pilots-turned-off-planes-computer-system-before-crash-report
They ‘believed’? Have they changed their mind since?
Where did you learn English, Michael?
From the Grauniad
Wunderbar.
A French plane, a French pilot, perfect recipe for a disaster
The issue with the Airbus philosophy is that they accept ‘dual input’ from the side joysticks of both the FP and the NFP. In an emergency, it can explain things get confusing. Boeing is better on that one.
Meanwhile, they leaked the FACs were both switched off at one point. The question is why, because obviously that deprived them of envelope protection.
I would say blame the French pilot, the captain found it too difficult to recover from the stall in stormy weather.
I love the Guardian too. It’s perfect for fish and chips.
So French co-pilot,
French Aircraft,
French Engines!!!
Yet as far as we are being led to believe The Black Boxes have not been de-coded by The French?
Depends what you mean. Two French BEA ( Bureau Enquêtes Accidents) supervisors have been there ever since the black boxes were recovered. I don’t think the initial report could have been written without their approval. Most of the MSM outlets mention that the FAC (flight augmentation computer) would have been switched off, but the problem with this is there are two of them on the A320, each of the two designed to take over if the other one fails.
Siswosuwarno has been so silent these last few days. Is it the influence of the French?
If the ropes/cables The Indonesians have been slinging around the airframe
are tending to pull it apart, why not engulf the airframe in a huge net or series of nets fastened together, I am thinking of the nets slung from Chinooks,
to move vehicles/ordnance ?
Feb 2 (Reuters) – Indonesian air crash investigators said on Monday they had not so far found evidence that the pilot of an AirAsia jet had left his seat, or that power to an automated control system was shut off, shortly before the aircraft plunged into the sea….
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/02/02/indonesia-airplane-idUSL4N0VC30D20150202
Reports on that issue seem contradictory. But the CVR should provide evidence. Hard to imagine the captain would pull the circuit breakers to the FACs without giving a warning to the FO who was at the controls.
Those computers use a FRENCH software. Airbus can hardly afford to admit it falied repeatedly. The two FACs are redundant and can easily be rebooted from the control panel with a On/Off switch.
Woken up to see there is another plane crash, the link I sent has not gone through probably awaiting mod check pprune for Transasia in the water it seems to be an ongoing rescue.
[craigmurray.org.uk – lodged in spamfilter since 06:05]
http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/555876-transasia-water.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8GmxMGCDh4#t=4893
Bloody Hell,
not another plane down in the sea in South East Asia
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-31125052
good write up in the BBC
Not in the sea, in the river.
The ATR a/c involved is ONCE AGAIN partly French-designed.