I had fairly well concluded that the most likely cause was a fire disrupting the electrical and control systems, when CNN now say the sharp left turn was pre-programmed 12 minutes before sign off from Malaysian Air Traffic control, which was followed fairly quickly by that left turn.
CNN claim to have this from an US official, from data sent back before the reporting systems went off. It is hard to know what to make of it: obviously there are large economic interests that much prefer blame to lie with the pilots rather than the aircraft. But if it is true then the move was not a response to an emergency. (CNN went on to say the pilot could have programmed in the course change as a contingency in case of an emergency. That made no sense to me at all – does it to anyone else?)
I still find it extremely unlikely that the plane landed or crashed on land I cannot believe it could evade military detection as it flew over a highly militarized region. Somewhere there is debris on the ocean. There have been previous pilot suicides that took the plane with them; but the long detour first seems very strange and I do not believe is precedented. However if the CNN information on pre-programming is correct, and given it was the co-pilot who signed off to air traffic control, it is hard to look beyond the pilots as those responsible for whatever did happen. In fact, on consideration, the most improbable thing is that information CNN are reporting from the US official.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/germany-investigates-airbus-defense-deals-in-saudi-arabia-romania-1417607252
Full link.
http://www.economist.com/node/1842124
France used to allow a tax deduction for corporate bribes. I don’t know if this is still the case. Other countries do not legitimize bribery and influence-peddling in this way.
Airbus and Saudi Arabia go way back.
http://m.ft.com/cms/s/0/b86cee54-1ce7-11e2-a17f-00144feabdc0.html
France has a long way to go on the bribery issue.
http://www.oecd.org/corruption/oecdseriouslyconcernedatlackofforeignbriberyconvictionsinfrancebutrecognisesrecenteffortstoensureindependenceofprosecutors.htm
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Kudos on your developing talents for FRENCH bashing. Once your training is complete, you may start studying aviation incidents.
Yes, bribery is at the heart of FRENCH policy. No wonder they managed to sell a nuclear plant to the current UK government.
UKIP is far too lax.
What we need is UKAF: United Kingdom Against France.
Then, they’ll understand. No more disappearing aircraft.
And cough we do.
THE FRENCH
are at it again
French air traffic strike prompts hundreds of cancellations
“It’s grossly unfair that thousands of European travellers will once again have their travel plans disrupted by the selfish actions of a tiny number of FRENCH … workers,”
the Irish airline fumed.
http://www.france24.com/en/20150408-french-air-traffic-strike-grounds-hundreds-flights-easyjet-ryanair-france/
http://21stcenturywire.com/2015/04/05/scapegoat-is-germanwings-co-pilot-andreas-lubitz-being-framed-for-french-alps-crash/
SCAPEGOAT: Is Germanwings Pilot Andreas Lubitz Being ‘Framed’ for French Alps Crash?
The initial and main source of the current official narrative can be traced to what the western media refer to as “The French Proscecutor“, or Marseille prosecutor Brice Robin. At no time have the mainstream media ever questioned the veracity of Brice’s initial pre-investigation claims that sent the media following a very specific story line. In other words, before the bodies were cold, the case was already ‘solved’.
No new revelations lately?
Thank you for 21stcentury wire link, MN. The way the Germanwings crash has been presented in the media is the clue to your question. The coverage of the story is quite unique in volume and intensity. The conclusion was made immediately in the media, without factual substantiation.
Normal crash investigations can drag on for years without disclosure of facts to the public until the final report. This was no normal crash investigation. Conclusion made, they move on to prove the conclusion. Legitimate investigations do not involve tunnel vision. Facts and evidence are missed when investigators have tunnel vision. Normal investigations do not point the finger of blame until proof has been found.
This is a circus. There are clowns, and even an elephant or two in the room. We are supposed to believe that pilots, like the former colonel Russell Williams, are never again checked or monitored once they get a licence. Williams flew troops internationally the morning after he murdered Jessica Lloyd. He had little to no sleep. He was taking multiple prescription drugs. And nobody knew! How high the sky!
BTW, Williams had worked as an electronics warfare specialist.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_warfare
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No large debris, means conspiracy.
The FRENCH mirage was remotely in control of the GermanWings Airbus.
Simple as ABC.
Some say there were three Mirage aircraft adjacent to the Germanwings A320 as it plunged.
Fantasy world is continuing
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3031540/Killer-pilot-spiked-coffee-captain-diuretic-drug-leave-cockpit-toilet.html
Germanwings co-pilot spiked the captain’s tea, so he would have to rush to the bog!!!
As if German pilots drunk tea! Only the Daily Fail could produce such a ludicrous theory. What about his bacon and egg? Was there a laxative in it?
FRENCH mirages, like roses in a bouquet, must always go by odd numbers. Why not five, seven or nine? Let’s keep dreaming.
Wheels fall off jet after it belly flops in England after coming from FRANCE
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-3031749/Plane-s-landing-gear-falls-touching-East-Midlands-Airport.html
Quote
“At the crash site, a senior official working on the investigation said, workers found the casing of the plane’s other so-called black box, the flight data recorder, but the memory card containing data on the plane’s altitude, speed, location and condition was not inside, apparently having been thrown loose or destroyed by the impact.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/26/world/europe/germanwings-airbus-crash.html?_r=0
How come that French Admaral’s women found it complete nine days later?
Have they found the AXE yet?
Very unlikely an axe would be vapourised.
@MN: Maybe he spiked the coffee with coffee, which is a diuretic. I could believe that.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3030873/Was-Germanwings-plane-crashed-HACKER-instead-pilot-Aviation-expert-says-jet-easily-accessed-remotely.html
Spiked coffee and a hacker. What a day.
http://www.esterel-technologies.com/success-stories/airbus-a380/
Airbus has a defense division, too. SCADE is used on military planes.
Do channels ever get crossed in digitized, high security military flight controls? At last word, Germany was very unhappy with its military Airbus purchase, and complained that quality of construction was lacking. AREVA TA, which also used SCADE and was working under contract for Airbus, has now been sold to an American company, but this may be unrelated to the quality control issues that upset the German government.
NATO warships, aircraft and personnel have arrived in Scotland for what has been described as the biggest ever Exercise Joint Warrior.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-32252012
More than 50 ships and 70 aircraft, some being based at RAF Lossiemouth in Moray and Prestwick Airport in Ayrshire, along with 13,000 personnel will be involved.
Pressured by the leak of a local radio station, the Polish Prosecutor’s Office has released black box transcripts from the presidential plane that crashed in Russia in 2010. It confirms that unauthorized people were in cockpit, instructing the pilots.
http://rt.com/news/248453-polish-prosecutor-transcript-kaczynski-crash/
Was that plane remotedly hacked by the FRENCH?
Let’s just say that the Italian cargo plane “escorted” to Glasgow-Prestwick was a
civilian aircraft, like the BBC & the M.O.D. expect us to believe,
why do they not say which airline/business is running it?
Why do they not give the aircraft number or Flight number?
“The Eurofighter Typhoon is a highly agile aircraft, designed to be an effective dogfighter when in combat with other aircraft.”
http://www.glasgowprestwick.com/news-and-events/italianc27incident.html
Statement from Glasgow Prestwick Airport re Italian C27 Incident
Quote Prestwick: “An Italian military aircraft landed safely last night (April 2) after being escorted into Prestwick Airport after radio communications problems.
A major emergency was declared at the airport just after 7pm after the Italian C27 plane, flying from Iceland to Italy, could not be contacted by air traffic controllers.
Following standard procedures, it was escorted into Prestwick by two RAF Typhoon fighters from Lossiemouth and landed without incident. Police Scotland took the lead in the incident and liaised with the aircraft’s captain and crew.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurofighter_Typhoon#United_Kingdom
“It was announced in December 2013 that No. 2 Squadron will be the fifth Typhoon Squadron and will convert from the Panavia Tornado and reform at RAF Lossiemouth from 1 April 2015”
So, if the stories being put out are in anyway to be believed;
only 12 hours or so from the R.A.F. Typhoons being newly operationally active in Lossiemouth
at least two of them are deployed for a MAJOR INCIDENT to bring in and force land
at Prestwick
a rogue Alenia Aermacchi MC27J gunship
http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/mc27j-multimission-aircraft-italy/
Co-incidence?
At the same time as the newly operation Typhoons were “escorting” the MC27J gunship down to Prestwick the A320 was crash landing in Halifax
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Canada_Flight_624
http://news.stv.tv/west-central/316855-prestwick-plays-major-role-in-joint-warrior-military-exercise/
Glasgow-Prestwick has MAJOR part in wargames
Prestwick’s Chief Executive Iain Cochrane said: “Prestwick stands ready to play its part in Joint Warrior and our involvement shows we have the expertise, capability and resources to assist in Europe’s largest military exercise.
Quote BBC
“Joint-Warrior: Earlier this month, the Royal Navy said jamming will be limited to a confined area in the north-west of Scotland.”
Michael Norton
Thanks for the navy info.. The things are a Blight on our stunning Scenery – Here on the Clyde.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/569819/British-forces-Russia-Europe-biggest-war-game
It is possible that the interception of the rogue Alenia Aermacchi MC27J gunship
by a pair of Typhoons from the newly operational number two Squadron
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No._2_Squadron_RAF
was a pre-runner to
Joint-Warrior