I had fairly well concluded that the most likely cause was a fire disrupting the electrical and control systems, when CNN now say the sharp left turn was pre-programmed 12 minutes before sign off from Malaysian Air Traffic control, which was followed fairly quickly by that left turn.
CNN claim to have this from an US official, from data sent back before the reporting systems went off. It is hard to know what to make of it: obviously there are large economic interests that much prefer blame to lie with the pilots rather than the aircraft. But if it is true then the move was not a response to an emergency. (CNN went on to say the pilot could have programmed in the course change as a contingency in case of an emergency. That made no sense to me at all – does it to anyone else?)
I still find it extremely unlikely that the plane landed or crashed on land I cannot believe it could evade military detection as it flew over a highly militarized region. Somewhere there is debris on the ocean. There have been previous pilot suicides that took the plane with them; but the long detour first seems very strange and I do not believe is precedented. However if the CNN information on pre-programming is correct, and given it was the co-pilot who signed off to air traffic control, it is hard to look beyond the pilots as those responsible for whatever did happen. In fact, on consideration, the most improbable thing is that information CNN are reporting from the US official.
Just after a piece of MH370 wing washes up, we learn that China is skiving off from its share of the search costs.
http://mobile.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/china-refusing-to-contribute-funds-to-mh370-search/story-fnizu68q-1227465529341
Exmouth has an interesting history.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exmouth,_Western_Australia
Silent Running: the MH370 story.
Back to the requins, it is entirely possible that debris from MH370 may have washed up on Réunion before now (if official confirmation verifies the flaperon). Surfing was banned due to the unusually high number of shark attacks, many of which were fatal, over the past several years. Swimming near shore was as unsafe as surfing. Even the most stalwart surfers have given up, after a 13-year-old surfer was killed. Mick Fanning might want to avoid returning to this island, after his recent close call in SA.
Tourism is dying. Who would have noticed plane debris, when everyone’s afraid to go on the water? Johnny Bègue’s job maintaining paths to the beach doesn’t have much of a future.
The locals and international surfers blame the tiger and bull sharks for eating the placid reef sharks. They say a marine preserve created by the French who govern the island, and the ban on fishing have allowed these new predators to increase in number beyond what is healthy. Many want a cull. It’s surprising they don’t have shark-watching tours.
My point is that who would have been watching the garbage on shore, when tourists are gone and fins are the big concern?
Pastor Begley is at it again. July 31 was a blue moon.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/science/595246/BLUE-MOON-world-will-END-September-modern-Nostradamus-Blood-Moon-prophecy
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-2872522/Panic-mid-air-bird-strike-leaves-hole-wing-witnesses-spot-flames-shooting-jet-engine-plane-carrying-150-passengers.html
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/28678669/ns/us_news-life/t/ny-jet-crash-called-miracle-hudson/#.VbzmwW5VhBc
Recalling the recent fake viral video of a drone striking a Southwest Airlines plane at La Guardia, which was picked up by The Mirror.
What would happen if a bird or “bird” hit the forward edge of a 777 wing? Would the flaperon fall off?
Remember this?
http://www.3news.co.nz/world/eyewitness-reports-seeing-missing-plane-on-fire-2014031306#axzz3hZyTKBvf
Does that sound like the Southwest Airlines mid-air bird strike fire of December 2014?
Refreshing my memory:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2951991/Search-MH370-taking-place-thousands-miles-away-wrong-direction-insists-oil-rig-worker-notoriously-fired-reporting-believed-saw-jet-fire.html
Right on cue, the flaperon and other debris may have been on Reunion Island’s shores months before they were reported to authorities:
http://www.9news.com.au/world/2015/08/01/18/35/reunion-island-locals-say-possible-mh370-debris-washed-ashore-months-ago
Like the Haute Savoie, Reunion Island is known for its parapentes. Tourists from France flock there during their summer breaks, from June to September. That is, they did flock there until a French girl was attacked and killed by a shark while snorkelling in shallow water.
http://blog.welcometoreunionisland.com/blog/entry/paragliding-in-reunion-island
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2364155/French-Girl-sliced-half-shark-attack-Reunion-Island.html
Can someone translate this I think the language is Dhivehi I have had no luck with google.
http://www.haveeru.com.mv/dhivehi/news/160179
Implications from the Reunion Debris found
July 29, 2015
http://www.duncansteel.com/archives/date/2015/07/31
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Communication_Station_Harold_E._Holt
“On 7 October 2008, Qantas Flight 72 made an emergency landing at Learmonth airport near the town of Exmouth, Western Australia following an inflight accident featuring a pair of sudden uncommanded pitch-down manoeuvres that resulted in serious injuries to many of the occupants.[13][14][15][16][17] The Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB) identified in a preliminary report that a fault occurred within the Number 1 Air Data Inertial Reference Unit (ADIRU) and is the “likely origin of the event”. The ADIRU — one of three such devices on the aircraft — began to supply incorrect data to the other aircraft systems.[16][18] The ATSB’s continuing accident investigation will include assessment of speculation that possible interference from Harold E. Holt facility or passenger personal electronic devices could have been involved, although based on initial analysis, the Bureau believes these are unlikely to have been of any impact.[16][19][20]
On 27 December 2008, another aircraft, Qantas Flight 71, also had a malfunction in its ADIRU. The incident again fuelled media speculation regarding the significance of the Harold E. Holt facility, with the Australian and International Pilots Association calling for commercial aircraft to be barred from the area as a precaution until the events are better understood,[21][22] while the manager of the facility has claimed that it is “highly, highly unlikely” that any interference has been caused.[23]”
Why do ADIRU units fail in the vicinity of Exmouth’s Harold E. Holt Naval Communication Station? This is a facility run by the U.S.
Could a “a pair of sudden uncommanded pitch-down manoeuvres that resulted in serious injuries to many of the occupants” also have led to a flaperon disconnect under certain circumstances?
Isn’t Qantas one of the safest airlines in the world?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qantas_Flight_72:
“Final Report
The ATSB’s final report issued on 19 December 2011 concluded that the incident “occurred due to the combination of a design limitation in the flight control primary computer (FCPC) software of the Airbus A330/Airbus A340, and a failure mode affecting one of the aircraft’s three air data inertial reference units (ADIRUs). The design limitation meant that, in a very rare and specific situation, multiple spikes in angle of attack (AOA) data from one of the ADIRUs could result in the FCPCs commanding the aircraft to pitch down.”
Subsequent Qantas Flight 72 incident
Main article: Air Data Inertial Reference Unit § Failures and directives
On 27 December 2008, a Qantas A330-300 aircraft operating from Perth to Singapore was involved in an occurrence approximately 260 nautical miles (480 km) north-west of Perth and 350 nautical miles (650 km) south of Learmonth Airport at 1729 WST while flying at 36,000 feet. At this time, the autopilot disconnected and the crew received an alert indicating a problem with ADIRU Number 1. The crew actioned the revised procedure released by Airbus after the earlier accident and returned to Perth uneventfully. The ATSB will include the incident in their existing accident investigation. The incident again fuelled media speculation regarding the significance of the Harold E. Holt facility, with the Australian and International Pilots Association calling for commercial aircraft to be barred from the area as a precaution until the events are better understood, while the manager of the facility has claimed that it is “highly, highly unlikely” that any interference has been caused.”
Does autopilot disconnect sound familiar?
Does the altitude of 36,000 feet sound familiar?
Who do you believe — the pilots’ association or the manager of the Harold E. Holt facility?
Initially blamed on a mouse:
http://www.cnet.com/news/bluetooth-mouse-may-have-caused-plane-to-fall-out-of-the-sky/
http://www.airlinesafety.com/faq/777DataFailure.htm
Airbus ADIRUs failed after this. Qantas grounded their fleet.
If the Boeing ADIRU problem was already fixed, could an outside factor have set off new problems in MH 370?
http://www.dutchops.com/Portfolio_Marcel/Articles/Flight%20Controls/B737_Flight_Controls/B737_Secondary_Flight_Controls.html
In a sudden failure of the ADIRU primary) or secondary flight controls (SAARU) in a Boeing 777, wouldn’t the trailing edge flaperons be under considerable stress? Would a sudden change in elevation, as happened in the Qantas incidents, be enough to disconnect the wing, in a plane that had previously sustained wing damage in a runway incident? Or would it take impact to do that?
If the pilots shut off the ADIRU, it may have been because of conflicting information, as in the 2005 incident.
Much of this is old ground. Interference in flights of various airplane types coming and going from Perth is a question mark.
Computers make mistakes. Programs have flaws. Nickel-and-diming fuel loads can lead to cutting things too close.
http://www.sita.aero/pressroom/news-releases/malaysia-airlines-to-reduce-fuel-costs-with-sitas-wind-and-weather-service
Gimli Glider of another sort?
Why did MAS choose SITA Wind instead of Boeing Wind? Was Boeing Wind being used before SITA?
I have not heard of this being investigated, when just about everything else had. (Think food poisoning, out of the “Airplane” plot. Surely the manufacturer’s own program would be best for calculating fuel loads, as they should know their planes better than anyone else.
SITA and ACARS mentioned in this report on the Swissair crash:
http://www.tsb.gc.ca/eng/rapports-reports/aviation/1998/a98h0003/02sti/06aircraft/acars.asp
http://www.newsvivo.com/news/images-suggest-flaperon-broke-off-while-plane-was-airborne-group-says
Short version, without a download. Thx Pink.
A glide would have required someone conscious at the controls, according to yesterday’s interview with a U.S. ABC news correspondent.
Did the primary and secondary flight controls fail. It has happened in the past, especially around Exmouth.
Was Ningaloo Reef showing any damage after March 8, 2014? This area is monitored for the docile whale shark. It’s also monitored as a habitat for sea turtles.
http://ningaloo-atlas.org.au/content/whale-shark-monitoring-ningaloo
https://www.osapublishing.org/abstract.cfm?uri=HISE-2007-HWB3
http://www.eomap.com/eomap-and-landgate-launch-new-water-monitoring-tools/
A plane seat washed up on the beach three months ago, so they say. Has everyone on Réunion dragged a chunk of a plane off the beach?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/mh370/11777921/MH370-Plane-seat-found-washed-up-on-Reunion-Island-three-months-ago.html
You’ll notice the Bin Laden reference, MN.
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/missing-jet/mh370-search-reunion-islanders-flock-special-beach-after-debris-find-n402216
And so the souvenir hunters descend, to take what they can from what may be crucial evidence. Where are law enforcement officials and soldiers to protect the evidence, before all of it is gone?
And what of nearby islands? Is anyone alerting islanders to stop burning beach debris?
A second piece of suspected plane debris has washed ashore on
the Indian Ocean island of Reunion,
after a wing part suspected to come from the missing flight MH370 was found on Wednesday.
The object,
believed to be the door of an aircraft,
was discovered just south of the city of St Denis.
It is said to have writing on it and possibly some illustration.
The Malaysia Airlines plane from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing disappeared last March with 239 people on board.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-33750811
The plane’s pilot was a Jordanian national – and according to Hampshire Police, the three Saudi Arabian passengers were OSMA BIN LADEN’s stepmother, sister and brother-in-law.
http://news.sky.com/story/1529006/bin-laden-plane-crash-doesnt-make-sense
A plane crash that killed three members of the bin Laden family “doesn’t make sense”, according to a pilot who regularly flies into Blackbushe Airport.
Speaking to Sky News, Simon Moores explained how the Phenom 300 jet, which came down over a car auction site in Hampshire on Friday, “has every conceivable state-of-the-art safety function you can possibly imagine”.
He explained how the plane takes approximately 750m to 800m to land – but as Blackbushe’s runway is 1,300m, there should have been no reason for the aircraft to overshoot as it arrived from Milan’s Malpensa Airport.
Had a look around the forums seems like a failed go around there was another crash there with a bad landing and brake failure combined that ended up the same way but got stopped by the bushes , from what I am seeing though this plane wasn’t braking it was trying to get back up for a go around and ran out of space .
Very sad sometimes shit happens.
Perhaps James will have an idea of how it went wrong I am just guessing on what I am seeing .
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/08/01/uk-malaysia-airlines-crash-idUKKCN0Q62WR20150801
even though the part was found on a FRENCH island,
and now FRANCE has the wing part in FRANCE
and it has been confirmed to come from a 777,
they can’t be arsed to do anything with it till Wednesday?
What are they doing,
thinking up good stories?
This reminds me of the Slaughter of the Horses, when they didn’t find the little girl because nobody good get their arses into gear ( while they were working out their storylines.
Now every bit of debris is claimed to be from the downed plane. Look — it’s a plane part. No, it’s domestic ladder.
http://news.sky.com/story/1529113/mh370-search-metal-object-from-ladder-claim
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3179609/MH370-map-prepared-University-Western-Australia-oceanographers-one-year-ago-predicted-debris-missing-Malaysia-Airlines-plane-arrive-La-Reunion-Madagascar.html
So why didn’t one of these oceanographers try to alert the people of the islands where debris may wash up? Have they done it now? Do the local coast guards and governments have a clue?
And what about that suitcase found on Reunion? Does anyone really think that a suitcase that has been floating along in salt water and sunshine for more than a year would contain DNA? They’re likely to find the DNA of the beachcombers.
Maybe the search for MH370 would have been faster if it had been left to souvenir hunters. It seems they’re drawn like flies to fruit.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2497112/British-diver-arrested-caught-souvenir-hunting-wreck-cruise-ship-Costa-Concordia.html
This joke doesn’t seem so funny now.
http://lolsnaps.com/funny/132665