I had fairly well concluded that the most likely cause was a fire disrupting the electrical and control systems, when CNN now say the sharp left turn was pre-programmed 12 minutes before sign off from Malaysian Air Traffic control, which was followed fairly quickly by that left turn.
CNN claim to have this from an US official, from data sent back before the reporting systems went off. It is hard to know what to make of it: obviously there are large economic interests that much prefer blame to lie with the pilots rather than the aircraft. But if it is true then the move was not a response to an emergency. (CNN went on to say the pilot could have programmed in the course change as a contingency in case of an emergency. That made no sense to me at all – does it to anyone else?)
I still find it extremely unlikely that the plane landed or crashed on land I cannot believe it could evade military detection as it flew over a highly militarized region. Somewhere there is debris on the ocean. There have been previous pilot suicides that took the plane with them; but the long detour first seems very strange and I do not believe is precedented. However if the CNN information on pre-programming is correct, and given it was the co-pilot who signed off to air traffic control, it is hard to look beyond the pilots as those responsible for whatever did happen. In fact, on consideration, the most improbable thing is that information CNN are reporting from the US official.
Sainte Suzannne debris is the sailboat that ran aground last year.
http://reunion.la1ere.fr/2015/08/12/mh370-le-debris-trouve-sainte-suzanne-proviendrait-d-un-bateau-278065.html
Meanwhile, Malaysia’s government came up with this:
http://www.businessinsider.com/malaysian-government-mh370-theory-2015-8
Still no word from the French.
Gold bar found that lakes going to be popular.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/german-girl-finds-gold-bar-while-swimming-in-alpine-lake-10452085.html
Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond, who is currently in China, sent his “deep condolences for the tragic loss of life”.
He said: “I was in this vibrant city, meeting local workers at the AIRBUS factory,
just hours before the explosions happened and pay tribute to Tianjin emergency workers who have been fighting fires and treating casualties.”
Residents in the north Chinese city reported an explosion at the dock at around 11.30pm local time (5.30pm BST).
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/597905/Explosion-Chinese-port-city-Tianjin
I thought AIRBUS were made in Toulouse in FRANCE
have they sold AIRBUS to the CHINESE?
So were the massive explosions in an AIRBUS factory?
It has been reported by the BBC that the facility where the eXplosions occurred were storing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_cyanide
Sodium cyanide,
this can lead to Cyanide poisoning
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-33844084
why would you be storing this shit
near where people live?
Did you say the Boeing factory in Tianjin?
Boeing has factories all over the world thatake different specialized components. Everett, WA is the assembly plant.
http://boeing.mediaroom.com/2011-04-18-Boeing-Celebrates-Opening-of-New-Factory-in-China
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/aerospace-composites-market-forecast-2015-2025-top-companies-in-commercial-civil-aviation–military-applications-for-cfrp-gfrp–afrp-507864811.html
Tianjin is a leader in composites for aviation, including titanium composites (hello, al-Hilli thread). You don’t suppose some of those composites are highly toxic, flammable and explosive, do you? And what would that mean for a passenger airliner that vanished into thin air? Could modern composites contribute to risk of fire and explosions when combined with”mangosteens” and lithium batteries?
https://books.google.ca/books?id=k1Ji-JwHCG8C&pg=PA216&lpg=PA216&dq=aerospace+plastic+%2B+sodium+cyanide+aviation&source=bl&ots=AxVP_QS3Pz&sig=DdAdJKd3VgSu8jZWjULVjN7Uk8A&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CDwQ6AEwCGoVChMIiKrV4bemxwIVgjeICh1tNgIQ#v=onepage&q=aerospace%20plastic%20%2B%20sodium%20cyanide%20aviation&f=false
Page 216 gets into other uses of sodium cyanide, MN.
Answer: MH370 is fully intact on the ocean floor, with the exception of one flaperon. Also available for those who wish to believe Najib Razak et al, swamp land for sale in Bayou Corne.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/598097/MH370-Malaysia-Airlines-plane-landed-safely-Indian-Ocean-sinking-intact
https://www.atsb.gov.au/newsroom/correcting-the-record.aspx
Incorrect media reporting of MH370 sonar contacts
13 August 2015
Recent articles suggesting that sonar images gathered during the underwater search for MH370 could be aircraft debris are incorrect.
The sonar contacts mentioned in the articles are old ones that were already assessed and discounted months ago.
As well, the articles incorrectly describe ‘Category 3’ sonar contacts as being the most likely to be aircraft debris. In fact, they are the least likely to be aircraft debris. Category 3 is assigned to sonar contacts that are of some interest as they stand out from their surroundings but have low probability of being significant to the search. The underwater search so far has identified more than 400 seabed features that have been classified as Category 3.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binhai
This is where the AIRBUS A320
are made?
I really thought they were made in FRANCE.
Bloody Hell.
The People’s Daily, the official newspaper of the Chinese Communist Party, reports that rescuers “are trying to remove all the 700 tons of sodium cyanide” stored at the site.
BBC NEWS
700 tons of Sodium cyanide sounds like quite a lot of poison / eXplosive.
It is no wonder they can make aircraft cheaper than in FRANCE if they are storing all that horrible stuff, right next to where millions of people live.
I suppose you get what you pay for, in more than one meaning.
Sometimes Wiki is straight off the starting blocks
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Tianjin_explosion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tianhe-I#Tianhe-1A
shut down because of the BLAST.
I wonder, if this is terror it was spectacular, perhaps as important as the nine eleven stuff.
On 12 August, 2015, the 186,368-core Tianhe-1, felt the impact of the powerful Tianjin explosion and went offline for some time. Xinhua reports that “the office building of Chinese supercomputer Tianhe-1, one of the world’s fastest supercomputers, suffered damage.” Sources at Tianhe-1 told Xinhua the computer is not damaged, but they have shut down some of its operations as a precaution.
39°02’22.06″ N 117°43’53.14″ E
Tianjin Port Fire Department Base
at epicentre of BLAST
These “incidents” in Binhai / Tianjin
will turn out to be more economically important than all the aircraft ever crashed.
That Tianhe facility is run by China’s Defence Department. It does aviation simulation research. Sounds like they’re sitting on a powder keg, and vulnerable to criminal acts. This will be a setback.
Aviation simulation research is what, in this case? I take as something more than a flight simulator to practise landing at Diego Garcia.
@Pink: so the media got it upside down and backwards again. IOW, the international team has been looking in the wrong place all along, because they have found nothing related to MH370 in all this time. Is the ocean salty or salted?
I’m afraid that you are right, MN. The death toll from the Tianjin explosions will climb significantly.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/13/asia/china-tianjin-explosions/
Some material from the past:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/465557/Malaysian-plane-20-on-board-worked-for-ELECTRONIC-WARFARE-and-radar-defence-company
And about that supercomputer Tianhe-2:
http://www.element14.com/community/community/news/blog/2015/07/24/china-s-tianhe-2-retains-its-crown-as-the-world-s-fastest-supercomputer
http://www.bidnessetc.com/39593-intel-corporation-intc-barred-from-selling-supercomputer-chips-to-china/
http://www.eetindia.co.in/ART_8800711646_1800009_NT_80ee6e5b.HTM
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/world/article/china-blast-warehouse-owner-violated-packaging-safety-tests-in-2013
The logistics company in China where the explosions occurred had violated safety rules in the past.
I wonder how many other logistics companies violate safety rules in other countries.
Tianjin is also known for drones:
http://www.uav-cn.com/English/News/UAV%20exhibition%20in%20Tianjin,all%20China%20times%20stunning%20appearance.html
Earlier this.month, China announced that it would be restricting exports of drones and supercomputers,apparently over fears this technology could be used against China.
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0Q81NQ20150803
http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702304665904576381290666515926
No one is mentioning the previous incidents in Tianjin.
Q from the last article you quoted. 2011
In one of the latest such scandals, Xinhua reported Sunday that more than 600 people, including 103 children, had been found to suffer from lead poisoning in the eastern province of Zhejiang. Such reports of mass lead poisonings have become increasingly common in China in recent years, reflecting both the pervasiveness of industrial pollution and the government’s efforts to be more open about them.Workers and their children in 25 family-run tinfoil workshops in Zhejiang’s Yangxunqiao township had dangerously high levels of lead in their blood, according to a preliminary medical test, it said. Twelve victims were being treated in the hospital, and all of the 25 workshops had suspended operations, Xinhua said.
I am shocked that very high tech stuff like AIRBUS is made in Binhai,Tianjin, CHINA
lack of safety, lack of care for people and their environment,
pollution, explosives, corruption.
Is this how the world is going, outsource everything?
Brock McEwen tweet showing link to MH370 drift study
https://twitter.com/Brock_McEwen
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-r3yuaF2p72dk9ualY1bzNLVHc/view
odd story
Maldives arrest foreigners heading for Diego Garcia
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/south-asia/Maldives-arrest-foreigners-heading-for-Diego-Garcia/articleshow/48439928.cms