I had fairly well concluded that the most likely cause was a fire disrupting the electrical and control systems, when CNN now say the sharp left turn was pre-programmed 12 minutes before sign off from Malaysian Air Traffic control, which was followed fairly quickly by that left turn.
CNN claim to have this from an US official, from data sent back before the reporting systems went off. It is hard to know what to make of it: obviously there are large economic interests that much prefer blame to lie with the pilots rather than the aircraft. But if it is true then the move was not a response to an emergency. (CNN went on to say the pilot could have programmed in the course change as a contingency in case of an emergency. That made no sense to me at all – does it to anyone else?)
I still find it extremely unlikely that the plane landed or crashed on land I cannot believe it could evade military detection as it flew over a highly militarized region. Somewhere there is debris on the ocean. There have been previous pilot suicides that took the plane with them; but the long detour first seems very strange and I do not believe is precedented. However if the CNN information on pre-programming is correct, and given it was the co-pilot who signed off to air traffic control, it is hard to look beyond the pilots as those responsible for whatever did happen. In fact, on consideration, the most improbable thing is that information CNN are reporting from the US official.
It might be time to refresh the context of what was going on with oil rigs off Vietnam in 2014.
Mike McKay was fired for his MH370 sighting.
http://thediplomat.com/2014/08/learning-from-chinas-oil-rig-standoff-with-vietnam/
This site isn’t very active, but it’s still going:
https://m.facebook.com/mh370.southchinasea
They continue to expouse the idea of a South China Sea crash due to improper maintenance, specifically the alleged failure of the wing repair from the previous runway incident wingtip damage.
Hi Q I thought you had abandoned ship I am not up to this sleuthing lark on my own .
I have been trying to work out where all these places are on google earth it’s a nightmare I now wish I had payed attention in geography if I am seeing right Tim Akers wreckage could end up on this island couldn’t it but wouldn’t fit with plane being inland of the coast ?
A company called Prophet is in charge of the Malaysia Airlines rebrand. Of course! I’m not sure if “Today is here” is the right slogan, but the whole thing is rich with symbolism.
http://www.marketingmagazine.com.my/index.php/categories/breaking-news/11165-today-is-here-for-malaysia-airlines-with-new-branding-campaign
I suppose it’s better than other slogans like allahu…oh, never mind.
Pink, I’m around. Jaded, but still here. Victor from JW has some interesting historical dates of the latest “find”. He seems to think it’s a bit of political maneuvering.
Maybe it’s a distraction from the tethering issue.
Tim Akers could be right.
Here they go again.
Fire at warehouse in Tianjin, CHINA,
alcohol spill suspected?
Sounds like a good place to manufacture aircraft?
https://www.rt.com/news/318418-fire-warehouse-china-alcohol/
It comes just two months after a double blast a chemical warehouse in Tianjin killed 112 people and injured more than 700 others.
Thousands were left homeless following the disaster, which was the deadliest for Chinese firefighters in more than 60 years.
Just three days after the deadly blasts, a total of seven or eight explosions rocked the site, prompting armed police to evacuate residents within a three-kilometer radius.
Look over there, don’t look here.
That strategy takes the search for MH370 on a wild goose chase of epic proportions, costing mega-money.
And when it falls flat on its face, the ocean is salted with a chunk of a 777, which conveniently lands on a beach, to be found be someone who may be a distant relative of a French reality TV star.
It’s all good for tourism, as the Maldives soon realize. Equally as corrupt as the Malaysian government is the one in the Maldives.
Then JW posts about the flaperon possibly being tethered underwater (not unlike the Japanese pearl culturing, but this time as barnacle growth medium). And suddenly another country claims its share of the global tourism pie by “finding” MH370. But who would want to risk travelling to such a dangerous place? No, this claim has a different signature, a more obvious origin.
And the strategy has changed to, “look over here”, close to where it all began. But don’t look exactly in the right place. Look slightly in the wrong place. Look at a too-obvious motive. Looking in the almost-right place then debunks the right place.
Go back to the beginning, as people like Tim Akers say. Whether we agree with him on other points or not, all other points are dead ends.
High-price PR companies are rebranding the truth.
Woman claims she stumbled across smashed fuselage in thick jungle
She found ‘many human skeletons and bones’ after climbing into debris
Also found ‘Malaysian flag measuring 70 inches long and 35 inches wide’
Police reserved about report but have not ruled out link to Malaysian jet
But scene in relation to MH370 flap find in Indian Ocean makes it unlikely
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3269008/Plane-wreckage-containing-skeletons-painted-Malaysian-flag-remote-Philippine-island-fuelling-speculation-MH370.html
I think there is some dis-information happening Q
Police in Sabah, in northern Borneo, confirmed that Mr Omar had called in at the police headquarters to personally lodge a report about the wreckage. Mr Jamil, who produced his identity card to police, said his aunt had not been able to provide the information earlier because there were no facilities on the island.
‘So my aunt came to see me,’ Mr Jamil told the police.
In his official report, Mr Omar said the nephew and his friends went into the wreckage ‘and found many human skeletons and bones,’ a report on freemalaysiatoday.com stated.
The site added: ‘There was a skeleton still in the pilot’s seat. The pilot had his safety belt on and the communication gear attached to his head and ears.’
DAILY MAIL
Q Do you mean jaded with the topic or you are you not feeling great?
To me its a bit like an itch I have to scratch and even after all this time I do not have a scooby do whats going on with either this plane or the other case still I don’t need to beat myself up to much as no one else seems to have a clue either 🙂
Yes, Pink, this latest report of “finding Nemo, er, MH370” comes just as Malaysia Airlines is rebranding.
Would it be a surprise that the past can be rebranded, even a past as frightening to potential customers as the loss of two airplanes and several hundred lives in a few months, as happened with Malaysia Airlines?
“Look over here, don’t look over there.”
I think Najib Razik is in the pilot’s seat on this one, Pink. And he’s been there from day one.
Q do you think the truth or the plane is going to surface ever ?
Not counting on it, Pink. MH370 has to want to be found. The plane is this century’s Amelia Earhart.
Meanwhile, the teenager/aunt/whatever story has legs. Who is this man from Borneo?
http://nypost.com/2015/10/12/teen-might-have-found-flight-mh370s-skeleton-filled-fuselage-in-philippines/
Borneo, land of a thousand scams:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bre-X
Dunno there are a few turn up on google and one facebook in the right area there is no point in me searching I don’t speak the lingo.
Its should be so simple there is either a plane there or there is not its a tiny island I would plump for not as I don’t imagine you could miss a plane crash the island looking towards it seems busy with boats who must cross that bit of water ,how much noise would there be after flameout how much noise would a crashing plane at night make ?
I just picked this up on twitter if it means anything to you.
“i believe the boys are pinoy. Sulu people. Even the aunt. Jamil is a MY. He’s a civil servant here.”
MH370 wreckage ‘find’ might ‘just’ be missing Flying Tiger Connie
http://blogs.crikey.com.au/planetalking/2015/10/13/mh370-wreckage-find-might-just-be-missing-flying-tiger-connie/
Philippines dismisses reports MH370 wreckage found on remote island
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asiapacific/philippines-dismisses/2189428.html
Quote the Independent
“But the discovery of wreckage on the island, located some way east of Kuala Lumpur, would be difficult to tally with either satellite data from MH370 or the discovery of a Boeing 777 “flaperon” on the island of Reunion in July.”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/mh370-search-philippines-authorities-reject-claims-plane-wreckage-with-skeletons-found-on-remote-a6691136.html
I agree it would be difficult to reconcile the flaperon and pings with this discovery
but is that a reason to not look?
How to tell that Malaysia Airlines and/or its government accomplices are pulling a scam.
1. The records are burned in a mysterious fire. Or are they? Remember the fire in the Malaysia Airlines maintenance hangar?
2. The story involves the Philippines, and Borneo. The mysterious Borneo angle is always good.
3. Bodies are never found, or the correct body is never found.
4. The man at the centre of the controversy suddenly disappears, as Jamil Omar, audio technician, age 46, has done. He’s either the nephew or uncle of a woman/teen who discovered a plane full of skeletons. No doubt there are many skeletons in this closet, and Halloween is rapidly approaching.
It’s kind of like this:
http://www.businessinsider.com/bre-x-6-billion-gold-fraud-indonesia-2014-10?op=1
Why go to the work of inventing a brand new scam, when variations on a theme are far easier?
Rebranding MH370 is only going to get harder after this. It’s kind of like tabloid photos of a famous TV cook after an ugly row in a restaurant: once they’re in your head, they’re hard to get out.
Until they find the bodies and explain what happened, and until customers understand why two major crashes that killed hundreds of people happened in a few short months, the slogan for the rebrand might as well be, “You can’t prove we did anything wrong, because there is no evidence to corroborate it.”
Does anyone know if Jamil Omar, the audio technician who is now an audiovisual technician who has vanished into thin air like MH370 itself, is the person who altered the final recording from the flight deck of MH370? Remember the whole “alright, goodnight” discombobulation?
Suggestion for sub-slogan to new Malaysia Airlines slogan, “Today is Here”. Frank Sinatra had me with, “Let’s forget about tomorrow, for tomorrow never comes”.
He had a number of other songs that would be a propos for a very expensive ad campaign, too.
Hull insurance explained:
http://fortune.com/2014/05/01/the-big-money-surprise-about-malaysia-airlines-flight-370/
Is there really any incentive for an airline to want to find out what happened to one of its “involuntary conversions” after they’ve received a hefty payout for full replacement value, only a few days later?
This usually falls to transportation safety investigators. Things get blurry in Malaysia, where government officials, their friends and family have fingers in many pies.
Whatever happened to the scandal over the vast fortunes of Malaysia’s PM, anyways?
I guess everyone is distracted with tales of bird hunters and things washing up on the shores of shark-infested Islands.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3270423/He-tried-pilot-s-hat-flesh-man-s-jaw-fell-Filipinos-grisly-moment-MH370-wreckage-jungle-really-airliner-vanished-mysteriously-53-years-ago.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3270423/He-tried-pilot-s-hat-flesh-man-s-jaw-fell-Filipinos-grisly-moment-MH370-wreckage-jungle-really-airliner-vanished-mysteriously-53-years-ago.html
Reported in The Express and The Independent:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/596612/terrorists-hijack-MH370-French-prosecutors-fear
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/mh370-live-could-terrorists-have-hijacked-the-missing-malaysia-airlines-boeing-777-10443580.html
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/mobile/specialreports/mh370/news/philippine-troops-hunt/1058628.html
Even bird hunters get abducted in the Tawi-Tawis. That’s 106 Islands and islets.
It’s a safe bet that all 106 Islands and islets are free of large aircraft after a quick check by authorities in this Abu Sayyaf-infested state. Honest.
On the map in this article where it says area wreckage found with a little red box happens to be where I said to look at the clearing on that google earth link at
Pink
10 Oct, 2015 – 10:24 pm
http://www.detroitnewstime.com/regional/105077-he-tried-to-take-off-the-pilot-s-hat,-but-the-flesh-on-the-man-s-jaw-fell-off-filipinos-describe-grisly-moment-they-found-mh370-wreckage-in-jungle…-but-is-it-really-airliner-which-vanished-mysteriously-53-years-ago.html
Try that again the link didn’t work
http://www.detroitnewstime.com/regional/105077-he-tried-to-take-off-the-pilot-s-hat,-but-the-flesh-on-the-man-s-jaw-fell-off-filipinos-describe-grisly-moment-they-found-mh370-wreckage-in-jungle…-but-is-it-really-airliner-which-vanished-mysteriously-53-years-ago.html
Don’t know why its not working
try this
http://t.co/DIyeM3r8Pq
MH370 Operational Search Update—
14 October 2015
http://jacc.gov.au/families/operational_reports/opsearch-update-20151014.aspx