I had fairly well concluded that the most likely cause was a fire disrupting the electrical and control systems, when CNN now say the sharp left turn was pre-programmed 12 minutes before sign off from Malaysian Air Traffic control, which was followed fairly quickly by that left turn.
CNN claim to have this from an US official, from data sent back before the reporting systems went off. It is hard to know what to make of it: obviously there are large economic interests that much prefer blame to lie with the pilots rather than the aircraft. But if it is true then the move was not a response to an emergency. (CNN went on to say the pilot could have programmed in the course change as a contingency in case of an emergency. That made no sense to me at all – does it to anyone else?)
I still find it extremely unlikely that the plane landed or crashed on land I cannot believe it could evade military detection as it flew over a highly militarized region. Somewhere there is debris on the ocean. There have been previous pilot suicides that took the plane with them; but the long detour first seems very strange and I do not believe is precedented. However if the CNN information on pre-programming is correct, and given it was the co-pilot who signed off to air traffic control, it is hard to look beyond the pilots as those responsible for whatever did happen. In fact, on consideration, the most improbable thing is that information CNN are reporting from the US official.
“Turkish Airlines flight TK34 has been diverted to Shannon, Ireland, after a bomb threat. The plane was headed from Houston, USA, to Istanbul, Turkey.
A package discovered on board is suspected to be an explosive device.”
Russia Today
IRAN to buy 114 Airbus planes
but no deals with the AMERICANS
https://www.rt.com/business/329965-airbus-boeing-deal-iran/
IRAN plans to buy 114 civil aircraft from European manufacturing giant Airbus – Boeing’s major rival. The deal, reportedly worth over $10 billion and set to be signed next week, comes as Tehran emerges from years of international sanctions and isolation.
OK, IT’S NOT MH370, OR PART OF A SHIP BUT MAYBE THE H-IIA OR H-IIB ROCKET INSTEAD
http://www.gerryairways.com/index.php/en/ok-its-not-mh370-or-part-of-a-ship-but-maybe-the-h-iia-or-h-iib-rocket-instead/
Another incident of severe turbulence has been reported.
http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/american-airlines-flight-diverted-st-johns-1.3418056
This comes in the aftermath of a huge winter storm that dumped up to 42 inches of snow in the eastern U.S.
It’s not graft, it’s a gift from the Saudi royals:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/26/malaysian-pm-najib-razak-cleared-corruption-gift-saudi-royals
This sounds like fiction, too, but it’s not:
http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/25/asia/mh370-search-sonar-vehicle-lost/index.html
The Fugro hit a seamount and lost the towfish.
Malaysia Airlines is grounding all of its 777s and cancelling the route of MH17.
http://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/mh370-mh17-malaysia-airlines-grounds-boeing-777-a6833031.html
Travellers in FRANCE face disruptions on Tuesday as disgruntled air traffic controllers and taxi drivers go on strike alongside civil servants upset over shrinking purchasing power.
http://www.france24.com/en/20160125-air-traffic-controller-taxi-strike-halt-20-percent-france-flights
Incidentally
has it been definately discovered that the co-pilot of the Germanwings aircraft that crashed into the FRENCH Alps did it on purpose?
@MN re:GermanWings co-pilot, French TV this morning (Channel 2) just revealed snippets of an email discussion between the deceased and his doctor, days before the incident. Doc was not impressed “this guy shouldn’t be anywhere near a plane” is my paraphrase of what he thought. Co-pilot was consulting the doc over fears of going-blind, doc thought his mindset was paranoïque, allegedly.
MN Jeff Wise has done a book on the Germanwings crash called Fatal Descent available on Amazon .
Workers at Charles de Gaulle airport FRANCE
fled the area around the plane and alerted authorities to an “immediate danger” after discovering the sinister package.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/638889/Security-alert-Charles-de-Gaulle-airport-security-services-botch-bomb-test
Botched training exercise causes bomb scare at Paris, FRANCE airport
http://www.france24.com/en/20160128-botched-training-exercise-causes-bomb-scare-paris-charles-de-gaulle-airport
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35434483
Airbus signs $25bn deal to sell 118 planes to Iran
Remember that fire in the Malaysia Airlines hangar, where maintenance records supposedly went up in flames? Could something similar to this have happened:
http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/exclusive-egyptair-mechanic-suspected-in-russian-plane-crash-sources/ar-BBoR6QH?li=AAggFp5&ocid=mailsignout
US and UK agencies reportedly hacked into Israeli drones and other aircraft as they gathered intelligence, in an operation dating from the late 1990s.
It enabled Israel’s allies to monitor information acquired by its reconnaissance missions,
Der Spiegel and The Intercept website reported.
The website said the information came from material leaked by US whistleblower Edward Snowden.
One Israeli minister said it was disappointing, but not a surprise.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-35440523
So could MH370 have been got at?
Is this what happens when you get rid of your (unionized, qualified) maintenance division and send your planes off to cheap overseas maintenance operations? You get what you pay for?
http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/toronto/air-canada-flight-549-makes-emergency-landing-in-toronto-1.3426759
Note: pax don’t pay attention to all the preflight demonstrations of how to put on the oxygen mask, instead opting to do nothing.
Malaysia 1MDB scandal: Singapore seizes bank accounts
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35459529
One that didn’t disappear, but possibly it was tried
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-3428090/Pictured-Fire-breaks-passenger-jet-minutes-leaving-gaping-hole-aircraft.html
Oh, and a plane that never existed – The Snowdon Rendition flight –
https://www.newsmax.com/World/Newsfront/secret-u-sflight-rendition/2016/02/02/id/712466/
Body find sparks fears passenger sucked out of jet after hole torn in plane?
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/640557/passenger-falls-out-plane-explosion-tears-hole-emergency-landing
Just seen this link on twitter.
https://www.radiocockpit.fr/2016/01/22/les-meilleurs-passages-du-livre-de-nicolas-sarkozy-mh370-nddl-rafale-et-airbus-a380/#
Man sucked out of passenger jet after bomb exploded was a suicide bomber who smuggled his device on board in his WHEELCHAIR, claim investigators
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3431295/Islamist-terror-group-Al-Shabaab-named-prime-suspects-bomb-blast-tore-hole-Somali-plane-sucked-passenger-death.html
A new write up from Jeff Wise .
http://kernelmag.dailydot.com/issue-sections/staff-editorials/15766/peanut-gallery-independent-group-malaysia-airlines-mh370/
@MN 4Feb16 the Daily Mail link you gave said “Aviation sources have suggested the aircraft was delayed leaving Mogadishu”
other suggestions today are that the alleged perpetrator was ‘accidentally’ travelling on Daallo Airlines D3159 with a Turkish Airlines boarding-pass, his Turkish Airline flight having been cancelled due to foggy weather. The 74 passengers including the deceased transferred to the Daalloo flight to Djibouti.
If it was an attempt on a Turkish carrier then presumably Putin was involved in some way. . .
I can’t see that President Putin would involve himself.
It seems there has been dealings between Islamic State and Turkey.
Recently people travelling from Islamic State to Turkey have been caught carrying explosives.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/turkey/12149664/Turkey-seizes-suicide-vests-and-explosives-from-Syrian-border.html
Turkey ‘seizes suicide vests and explosives’ from Syrian border
Army says they found the haul while searching a group trying to cross into Turkey
Turkey has claimed that its soldiers had seized explosives and suicide vests from the closed border with Syria.
The army said in a statement that the hardware had been found in the baggage of a group of 34 people stopped near the Syrian border. “Between 12 and 15 kilos of explosives and four belts that could be used for suicide attacks were found in two bags,” it said.
The group – four men, 10 women and 20 children – were stopped in Turkey’s southeastern border town of Karkamis, the statement said. It did not refer to any terror group but Karkamis lies across the border from the Syrian town of Jerabalus, which is currently controlled by the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (Isil).
A suicide bomber who carried out an attack in Istanbul’s central tourist district last month is understood to have entered Turkey from Syria, registered as a refugee.
Lufthansa chief denies errors over Germanwings crash
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35550799
“Our pilots are a very important part of our safety network, they are not a threat to safety – they are guaranteeing safety in aviation.”
That is the forthright response from Lufthansa Group’s chief executive, Carsten Spohr, when asked about the company’s reaction to the loss of Germanwings flight 9525, a year ago.
Last March the aircraft crashed into a mountainside in southern France.
All 150 passengers and crew were killed.
“Obsessives”? Jeff Wise could have said “inquiring minds”. In an era when MSM seems to have gone to the dogs, this is not a bad thing. Internet forums are the last remaining place for people who once found in-depth analysis in the pages of a newspaper. When journos turn into pandering lapdogs, what do you expect?
So right back at you, JW. Without those (insulting, much) “obsessives”, where would you find the audience for your books, dude?
So where is the big picture in all this, oh great Oracle JW? If this is not a conspiracy, is it a conspiracy of silence at the governmental (intergovernmental) level?
Q
One day,
on of these aircraft mysteries ought to be solved?
MH370
MH17
Germanwings over the FRENCH Alps
Russian plane over Sinai
and a few more
but we are never allowed to know who done it?
As TURKEY shot down a Russian aircraft because it momentarilly strayed from SYRIAN terrortory into TURKEY, how come it is O.K. for Turkey to supply arms and to fire from TURKEY into SYRIA
http://news.sky.com/story/1641551/syrian-troops-plan-to-target-is-stronghold
TURKISH artillery have bombarded areas of Aleppo province in northern SYRIA
controlled by Kurdish forces, it is claimed.
https://www.rt.com/news/332354-saudi-turkey-jets-deployed/
And how come it is O.K. for other nations aircraft to fly from TURKEY to shoot in SYRIA
without the agreement of the government of SYRIA?
Is that what is known as double standards?
All along TURKEY & SAUDI have been behind the de-stabalizing of SYRIA, yet in 17 seconds it was O.K. for the Turks to shoot the Russian plane down and shoot the pilot and rescuer?
It seems likely that more aircraft will soon disappear over Turkey / Syria
quote
“The Saudi kingdom now has a presence at Incirlik airbase in Turkey,
brigadier general Ahmed al-Assiri was quoted as saying
by Al-Arabiya television late on Saturday.
Saudi warplanes are present with their crews to intensify aerial operations along with missions launched from bases in Saudi Arabia,
Assiri said, without providing further details.
http://www.france24.com/en/20160214-saudi-arabia-deploys-jets-toturkey-anti-fight
Turkey strikes Kurdish targets, returns regime fire in Syria
It looks like TURKEY is wanting a World War
TURKEY has confirmed its armed forces have struck at SYRIAN army
and Kurdish positions north of Aleppo,
well on the Syrian side of its border with Turkey.
The Turks claim they were responding to mortar fire from Syrian army positions against one of their police stations.
While the Kurds may well be fighting Assad the Turks are not taking the attitude that their enemy’s enemy is their friend.
“The PYD Kurdish Democratic Party is attacking Syrian civilians in cooperation with Russia and Syrian regime forces. They attack Kurds, Arabs and Turkmens who don’t think like them. We will help our brothers in Aleppo with all the means at our disposal. We will take those in need but we will never allow Aleppo to be emptied through an ethnic massacre,” said Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu.
As Syrian and Russian offensives take more land back close to the Turkish border the chance of Turkmen casualties which anger Ankara rises. Turkey has already said it is ready to send ground troops into the country.
That would represent a dangerous escalation, as do Saturday’s strikes into Syria. Were Turkish forces to run into, engage, and kill any Russian personnel it is unlikely Moscow would not react strongly, with unpredictable results.
There are reports that 20 Saudi F15s arrived at Turkey Incirlik airbase on Saturday, indicating that the Saudis may be about to intensify their efforts, and from Turkish soil. Ground troops will reportedly follow, and Turkey’s foreign minister said his soliders are ready to fight alongside their Saudi brothers and enter Syria.
http://www.euronews.com/2016/02/14/turkish-forces-attack-syrian-and-kurdish-positions-in-northern-syria/