I had fairly well concluded that the most likely cause was a fire disrupting the electrical and control systems, when CNN now say the sharp left turn was pre-programmed 12 minutes before sign off from Malaysian Air Traffic control, which was followed fairly quickly by that left turn.
CNN claim to have this from an US official, from data sent back before the reporting systems went off. It is hard to know what to make of it: obviously there are large economic interests that much prefer blame to lie with the pilots rather than the aircraft. But if it is true then the move was not a response to an emergency. (CNN went on to say the pilot could have programmed in the course change as a contingency in case of an emergency. That made no sense to me at all – does it to anyone else?)
I still find it extremely unlikely that the plane landed or crashed on land I cannot believe it could evade military detection as it flew over a highly militarized region. Somewhere there is debris on the ocean. There have been previous pilot suicides that took the plane with them; but the long detour first seems very strange and I do not believe is precedented. However if the CNN information on pre-programming is correct, and given it was the co-pilot who signed off to air traffic control, it is hard to look beyond the pilots as those responsible for whatever did happen. In fact, on consideration, the most improbable thing is that information CNN are reporting from the US official.
Hi all. I still check this discussion and the al Hilli one very infrequently. Amazing both are still going.
Have nothing to contribute, except I recalled there were mangosteens on MH370 and while mangoes and mangosteens are distinctly different tropical fruits is it possible they or some other fruits give off a gas while ripening that make them useful to mask explosives or drugs from detectors or dogs?
Found what’s quoted below. The discussion also has much speculation whether mangoes are one of the code-words used in human trafficking or pedophilia.
“When Hilary’s comments on Pakistani mangoes were heard, at least some people within Pakistan or elsewhere in the world might have been reminded of an earlier conspiracy theory related to mangos and Pakistan’s military dictator Zia ul Haq’a death in a plane crash in 1988.”
“When President Mohammad Zia ul-Haq along with the then U.S. Ambassador to Pakistan Arnold L. Raphel, and Brig. Gen. Herbert M. Wassom, head of the Military Assistance Group at the U.S. Embassy in Islamabad died in a plane crash on 17 August 1988, there were rumours that chemicals stored in a mango crate was the reason for the explosion and the plane crash.”
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1564617
The simple answer is that both threads are still going because their causes, the USA and its allies, have never been established. The MH370 crash was caused by the Anglo-Americans to get the nuclear deal with Iran, and the Al-Hillii et al. massacres was a consequence of making the Mediterranean Dialogue operational.
This has been posted on Jeff Wise ..
Missing Peter Chong a close friend of MH370 captain
PETALING JAYA: Peter Chong, the activist who went missing last week after he had narrated an apparent veiled threat against him, is a close friend of pilot Zaharie Ahmad Shah, captain of the Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 that mysteriously vanished three years ago…
http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2017/04/10/missing-peter-chong-a-close-friend-of-mh370-captain/
update
‘Missing’ activist Peter Chong in Thailand, not abducted –
KUALA LUMPUR, April 12 ― Former Petaling Jaya city councillor Peter Chong, the most recent activist reported missing, left for Thailand and was not abducted, said Tan Sri Khalid Abu Bakar.
The Inspector-General of Police said authorities have evidence of Chong passing through the immigration checkpoint in Kedah last Friday.
“I want to confirm that Peter Chong has crossed to Thailand at 6.30am on 7th of April by bus…
– See more at: http://www.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia/article/igp-missing-activist-peter-chong-in-thailand-not-abducted#sthash.xuU5F8R1.dpuf
See more at: http://www.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia/article/igp-missing-activist-peter-chong-in-thailand-not-abducted#sthash.xuU5F8R1.dpuf
Just more expected trolling, Pink
Peter Chong returns to KL, claims he was abducted in Hatyai
http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2017/04/16/peter-chong-is-found-says-police-chief/
MH370: New analysis reiterates plane’s likely location
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-39663395
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/798832/mh370-malaysia-airlines-vladimir-putin-russia-knows-plane-missing-boeing-777-satellite
Vlad Putin knows where MH370 is but is keeping his trap shut.
Allegedly this is how some discount airlines work: file a flight plan, then change it en route as a matter of routine practice endorsed by airline management. The pilots in this non-Malaysian case have concerns about loss of contact with ATC between countries, and the ultimate consequence of fighter jets and the unmentioned unmentionable.
This, friends, is what I think happened to MH370.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/flair-newleaf-airtransat-aircanada-westjet-airlines-cancun-vacation-discount-airlines-1.4096090
More problems.
“”It is not a hijack. One disruptive passenger tried to enter the plane’s cockpit,” Malaysia’s Deputy Transport Minister Abdul Aziz Kaprawi said.”
Read more at
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asiapacific/malaysia-airlines-plane-forced-to-turn-back-to-melbourne-after-8900384?view=DEFAULT
http://avherald.com/h?article=4a9b58fe&opt=0
Saw it here
http://jeffwise.net/2017/05/23/reading-the-secrets-of-mh370-debris/#comments
Aircraft wreckage washes ashore in Mayaro
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/20170531/news/aircraft-wreckage-washes-ashore-in-mayaro
Trinidad is in the Atlanric, Pink.
You could better spend your time looking for Michael Norton.
Did MH370 wander into the airspace near Woomera Protected Area?
http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2014-02-06/taranis-drone-uk-mod-bae-systems-woomera-south-australia/5242636
More recently near WPA, a man claims his drone was forced out of the sky by what seems to be nuclear weapons testing.
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/private-drone-forced-to-the-ground-before-explosion-at-woomera-weapons-testing-ground/news-story/64208654dc08e07b784e72b57d935e00
Passrngers were told to say a little prayer when a blade popped off a turbine on this Airasia flight from Perth to Kuala Lumpur. Oh well, it has been reported that each of the passengers received $20 for the inconvenience.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/25/terrifying-footage-shows-airasia-flight-shaking-returning-airport/
$20!
KUALA LUMPUR: Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 mysteriously disappeared on March 8, 2014, with 239 people on board. Now, a lawyer who filed to sue Malaysia Airlines and Boeing has mysteriously disappeared as well….
http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2017/06/30/now-lawyer-who-filed-suit-over-mh370-also-missing/
Did the CIA force Yingying Zhang, a Chinese national studying how best to respond back home to weather modification at the University of Illinois, to disappear after she also complained about the sabotage of MH370 which killed so many of her countrymen, resulting in a shake up of Beijing’s leadership after it determined that Sun Chengdai, a successor of Bo Xilai, was still trying to overthrow the regime?
Shipwreck hunter David Mearns leads push for new MH370 search.
http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/shipwreck-hunter-david-mearns-leads-push-for-new-mh370-search/news-story/07e61d78b51b8c08c92a5918a2827373
At least David Means was looking in the right ocean for the sunken cruiser Sydney, the Indian Ocean off Australia.
The search for MH370 has been looking in it wrongly for the plane. Until he says he will be looking in the South China Sea, the relatives of its victims will just be wasting their money until he says that he will be looking there too in any new investigation for its whereabouts.
Sarah Bacj, partner of Phillip Wood, discussing MH370. Phillip Wood is allegedly the passenger on flight MH370 who blindfolded and in a cell sent a message and black photo with coordinates to Diego Garcia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1zNy-5ESos
In this interview she claims there is a Facebook Page called “Finding Phillip Wood” but I cannot find this.
Now I’ve found it. I spelled his name wrong having been misled by another article. It only has one l in Philip.
https://www.facebook.com/findingphilipwood370
This suggests it is a hoax and I can find nothing on the Find Philip Wood FB Community page suggesting he sent a photo.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MH370/comments/23vuqy/debunked_yes_or_no_mh370_philip_woods_diego/
This was the original story which now seems like a 100% hoax.
https://inpursuitofhappiness.wordpress.com/2014/03/31/mh-370-this-is-accurate-and-now-100-confirmed-hijacked-ibm-engineer-philip-wood-successfully-dialed-out-of-diego-garcia-jim-stone/
Jon that was not the only rumour of a text from Philip Wood.
http://english.astroawani.com/malaysia-news/mh370-hishammuddin-brushes-aside-communication-possibility-31734
https://www.reddit.com/r/MH370/comments/215j9e/message_from_m370_passenger_temperature_in_the/
https://www.reddit.com/r/MH370/comments/214fyq/philip_woods_instagram_cant_breath/
MH370 victims’ relatives demand Malaysia accept ‘win-win’ search offer
US firm offers to start new search for free, only taking payment “if it finds main debris field” of plane missing since 2014.
Friday 11 August 2017
http://news.sky.com/story/mh370-victims-relatives-demand-malaysia-accept-win-win-search-offer-10983352
Guardian, today, have French military sat photos released by the aussies showing man-made debris clusters on the sea just north of the previous MH370 search area.
No comments allowed, at time of reading.
and here’s the link
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/aug/16/french-images-bolster-theory-mh370-crashed-north-of-search-area
STARTLING new evidence has virtually pinpointed the location of MH370 — 1258 days since it disappeared.
http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/incidents/explosive-new-report-virtually-pinpoints-location-of-missing-flight-mh370/news-story/182daac1538bc01c7955e1a5b431c98b
https://www.atsb.gov.au/newsroom/news-items/2017/mh370-satellite-imagery/
Does anyone think this new finding will be investigated? There seems to have been so much resistance to learning the truth.
I don’t know Q the original search didn’t find anything that turned out to be from the plane it was shipping containers and whales if I remember right ,there are still plenty of people saying they found stuff on sat pictures I can’t tell they all look the same to me, I did fancy I could see a person on one of Don Elliots though which is a bit disconcerting ,I keep following the plot and my first thought when this new offer came through from OI was it sounded good all I have seen since is a lot of fancy graphics and not a lot else will just have to wait and see what pans out this time .
Don Elliot is still going btw talks about a movie release in 2017 called The Last chance not seen anything yet .
http://www.timesunion.com/local/article/Capital-Region-man-believes-he-located-lost-5470059.php#photo-6289379
http://www.dwestudios.com/MH370passengers/MH370sinking42x56web.jpg
https://vimeo.com/93416488
Pentagon orders pause in Pacific fleet operations after latest fatal collision
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/21/us-destroyer-uss-john-s-mccain-damaged-after-collision-with-oil-tanker
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/08/20/asia/us-navy-destroyer-collision-singapore/index.html
Another twist being reported on twitter
http://www.zinfos974.com/Le-consul-de-Malaisie-assassine-a-Antananarivo_a118197.html
The Honorary Consul of Malaysia in Antananarivo was assassinated this Thursday night in the center of the capital of Madagascar. The diplomat was driving his car when he was shot at.
Zahid Raza was the manager of an office supply business, Z & Z Center, in the Malagasy capital. He lived a few years in La Reunion before returning to Madagascar about three years ago to take up the post of consul in Antananarivo.
In Madagascar, his name is associated with the kidnapping of members of the Karen community in Fianarantsoa in 2009. He was imprisoned in Tsiafahy and then in Antanimora prison, suspected of having participated. He was able to return to his country freely in December 2010, provoking indignation within the Karen community.
Friday 25 August 2017 – 00:51
Zinfos974
Seen here last year with Blaine Gibson in the second photo .
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-malaysia-airlines-mh370-idUSKBN13U1SS
Slain Diplomat Was Helping Get MH370 Debris to Malaysia
http://mh370.radiantphysics.com/2017/08/26/slain-diplomat-was-helping-get-mh370-debris-to-malaysia/
What are you making of this Q it all sounds a little odd ?
New Pieces Possibly from MH370; Blaine Gibson Threatened in Madagascar
http://mh370.radiantphysics.com/2017/08/28/new-pieces-possibly-from-mh370-blaine-gibson-threatened-in-madagascar/#comments
The plot thickens.
Pink, do you know how close the ties are beyween the Karen people of the Nicobar and Andaman Islands and Karen communities elsewhere?
I am posting this article on the strategic importance of the Andaman and Nicobar Islands for the record.
http://www.claws.in/1697/andaman-and-nicobar-islands-in-light-of-chinese-actions-in-south-china-sea-anushree-dutta.html
No Q it’s a shame Bluebird is not around to enlighten us .
http://archive-3.mizzima.com/mizzima-news/regional/item/14465-outrage-over-attack-on-karen-on-andaman-islands-over-tribal-film/14465-outrage-over-attack-on-karen-on-andaman-islands-over-tribal-film
http://www.organicthejarawa.com/single-post/2017/02/26/The-Jarawa-people-have-decided-to-stick-with-love
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2014/03/14/an-introduction-to-the-andaman-and-nicobar-islands-a-remote-indian-archipelago-now-part-of-the-hunt-for-mh370/?utm_term=.813b6cb60efd
http://www.hindustantimes.com/world/if-mh370-made-it-to-andaman-sea-did-indian-radars-fail-to-detect-it/story-sFLTNwJ8pXzxbSRuUNBg7J.html
Going back over ground already covered, but what if Indian radar did not miss it? What if there is more than one reason to block access to tribal groups, and what if this is connected to the assassination of the man who was supposed to be the courier for those pieces of what is believed to be Mh370? Huge parts of the puzzle are missing, and strange things continue to happen.
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asiapacific/malaysian-team-heads-to-madagascar-to-probe-suspected-mh370-9186188
Malaysian officials are travelling to Amanda’s car to pick up the pieces. Mike Exner comments.
Spellcheck really stinks. Madagascar. It’s a country.