I had fairly well concluded that the most likely cause was a fire disrupting the electrical and control systems, when CNN now say the sharp left turn was pre-programmed 12 minutes before sign off from Malaysian Air Traffic control, which was followed fairly quickly by that left turn.
CNN claim to have this from an US official, from data sent back before the reporting systems went off. It is hard to know what to make of it: obviously there are large economic interests that much prefer blame to lie with the pilots rather than the aircraft. But if it is true then the move was not a response to an emergency. (CNN went on to say the pilot could have programmed in the course change as a contingency in case of an emergency. That made no sense to me at all – does it to anyone else?)
I still find it extremely unlikely that the plane landed or crashed on land I cannot believe it could evade military detection as it flew over a highly militarized region. Somewhere there is debris on the ocean. There have been previous pilot suicides that took the plane with them; but the long detour first seems very strange and I do not believe is precedented. However if the CNN information on pre-programming is correct, and given it was the co-pilot who signed off to air traffic control, it is hard to look beyond the pilots as those responsible for whatever did happen. In fact, on consideration, the most improbable thing is that information CNN are reporting from the US official.
Here we are;
‘The US navy tracking equipment – a special listening device known as a “towed pinger locator” and an underwater drone dubbed Bluefin-21 – has arrived in Perth, where the international effort is headquartered and is being sent to the search site.’
Reports said the equipment would be loaded on to the Royal Australian Navy’s HMAS Ocean Shield, which will drag the locator through the water in the hope of picking up a signal. The drone can dive to depths of about 4,500 metres, using sonar to form images of the ocean floor. Similar technology was used to locate the main wreckage from Air France flight 447 in 2011 – yet it still took searchers two years to recover the black box from the depths of the Atlantic Ocean.’
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/27/mh370-search-effort-swings-towards-finding-black-boxes
Very good analogy there BB, the white flag ! Hahaha.
This is interesting, from the Guardian;
World news
Malaysia Airlines flight MH370
>>>>MH370: Inmarsat hints Malaysia delayed data on plane’s location<<<<<
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Our latest story is here
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/26/mh370-search-set-to-be-hampered-by-more-storms-live-updates
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So was it too near the truth , the hint is there but only in the title, why didn't they delete it altogether?
There was a story in which a Vietnamese admiral admits that the plane fell on Vietnamese territory, it was the Malaysians who later denied he has said so. But the admiral not only said what plane had crashed, he even stated where it had crashed.
“….(Reuters) – A Malaysia Airlines flight carrying 227 passengers and 12 crew crashed into the sea 153 miles off the coast of Vietnam’s Tho Chu island on Saturday, according to a Vietnamese navy officer quoted by state media.
“At the moment there are no Vietnamese navy boats in that area so we have to ask boats from Phu Quoc island to be prepared for rescue,” Admiral Ngo Van Phat told the website of Tuoi Tre news.
Tho Chu and Phu Quoc lie to the southwest of southern Vietnam.
The admiral could not be reached by telephone. It was not immediately clear how he knew where the plane had crashed or whether wreckage had been spotted…….”
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/08/us-malaysia-airlines-vietnam-idUSBREA2706920140308
This is why I’ve always believed that although I am willing to think of all eventualities, I somehow know the plane was shot down by the Vietnamese.
Perhaps somebody should look 246 Km (or 153 miles) off the coast of Vietnam’s Tho Chu island, who knows what might be laying off the coast. Perhaps the rest is just a smoke screen to cover up the fact that Vietnam shot down a passenger airliner for not having its transponder on.
China would most likely go to war against Vietnam if it turned out to be true. No love lost between these two
Also read the comments.
http://www.straitstimes.com/the-big-story/missing-mas-plane/story/malaysia-says-theres-sealed-evidence-mh370-cannot-be-made-publ
Malaysia says there’s sealed evidence on MH370 that cannot be made public.
Read the comments. There’s lots of discussion and speculation regarding the cargo being WMD.
In that regards i remeber the final scene of Batman’s “The Dark night rises”. He saved Gotham by flying out into the sea towards nowhere.
I must admit that the following is just science fiction speculation but i had seen that before in different movies in cinema:
Existing movie script:
There is a nuclear bomb on board and it will detonate once the plane is flying below a certain flight altitude. They have no other choice than to fly into a region far away from any civilisation and deliberately die there. The same movie script exists with biological weapons (virus, bacteria) on board.
My script – see above – (taken from already existing novels and movies) would explain why the plane went almost all its way over sea and why the military didnt do anything about the plane because they knew who it was and why it was flying there.
I understand that this is pure science fiction only, but this is something that might fit into logic IF the plane was really crashing in nowhere, far away from any civilisation.
Bluebird – So do you see the climb to 44,000 feet as being part of a struggle?
Donald: i dont know. Maybe. That is just speculation.
Other movies apart from “the dark knight rises”
Nuclear device on board:
http://imdb.com/title/tt0130413/
Deadly illness on board. Plane comes from thailand:
http://www.german-films.de/filmarchive/browse-archive/view/detail/query/f/film/-9571e87c5d/
The only thing your theory on Vietnam does not answer Donald, is the plane banking to the West over the East Malaysian coast.
Katie – Ships even went to the area in question and found wreckage, their response was that it did not match the “Body of the plane”, they didn’t even mention to say that it might have been part of the cargo, passenger luggage and so on .. no .. they only concentrated on the body of the plane.
Katie – Sorry, forgot to add: The island is to the west of the flight path, the plane therefore did turn west
OMG, Lao, have you seen this ?
‘Were the passengers really on 9M-MRQ that was taken into Vietnam and then flown west?
Were the sightings of a plane flying west over the islands and the Maldives under radar actually true while 9M-MRO was flown over the Indian Ocean leaving a trail of Satellite pings in the opposite direction?
Which plane was really fight MH370?
Did something happen after it crossed Vietnam? What the heck happened and what is going on?
http://beforeitsnews.com/events/2014/03/malaysia-airlines-370-had-secret-twin-radar-data-shows-2432870.html?utm_content=beforeit39snews-floatingtoolbar&utm_term=http%3A%2F%2Fb4in.info%2FhWBp&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=&utm_source=http%3A%2F%2Ft.co%2FZA3RKNFzDk
Sorry, that comment is addressed to Donald. Slap ma wrists !
Sounding like an episode of Sherlock–the one with Mycroft’s plane full of previously-deceased people.
Flight MH370 Found? Not Quite – Now the Real Whitewash Begins
By 21st Century Wire
Global Research, March 27, 2014
http://www.globalresearch.ca/flight-mh370-found-not-quite-now-the-real-whitewash-begins/5375408
Bluebird; Has anyone info on MH370’s previous destinations? IOW was Seychelles a previous stop?
The ‘cargo’ mentioned in your Big Story piece is my interest.
Surely we are not supposed to believe that Flight tracker is based on radar. I was under the impression that Flight tracker, Like Ship Tracker, uses GPS info. Oh, that’s right, we are not supposed to know that very expensive commercial airliners have GPS and can be tracked by satellites. Much cheaper, rather ordinary cars have GPS tracking, but not very expensive airplanes. silly me. I should not be questioning the small details that fall apart under scrutiny. Why are the media not noticing these flaws in the tale that are big enough to fly a plane through?
btw; Malaysian air has Seychelles as one of their destinations.
Katie – your 12:44 … Not to worry 🙂
All I could find about 9M-MRQ is that on the 3rd of January, 2014 it flew from Kuala Lumpur to Dubai
Funny 🙁
On the 8th of March, 2014 it is 9M-MRQ which is listed as MH-370 and having departed Kuala Lumpur to Beijing. I looked up plane finder to find this info
http://planefinder.net/data/airplanes/9M-MRQ
Further searches revealed this plane is the return leg of the flight path .. one plane comes and one goes.
9M-MRO had flown the reverse leg the day before
http://planefinder.net/data/airplanes/9M-MRO
Nothing unusual about it, I’m afraid, the article is simply using a flightradar map for a different day, it does say its map were 48 hours over or something.
Ben – The links I provided in my previous comment show all 9M-MRO’s previous flights
Donald
You made the same mistake that Dahboo7 is it, (now Dahboo77 I see) on youtube where he said Flightradar24 have altered the data. Flight MH370 that is missing departed on 7th March using UTC, local time minus 8 hours.
I posted on David Icke that mistake stating that plane is 9M-MRQ, the missing one is 9M-MRO.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1062021597&postcount=151
Thx Donald; the search engine confounds. How can I see all previous flights out Seychelles?
Appreciate the help. I am not a techie.
Strawberry – Yes, I was that is what I meant to say, MRO and MRQ are part of the same service, the links show them flying opposite legs of the same path .. MRO is definitely the one that fell, MRQ flew the service today.
Ben – A bit late for me but why not simply look up Malaysian Airlines flight to the Seychelles as if you wanted to buy a ticket, of maybe from the Seychelles back to Malaysia, then you will have its flight number and you can track things from there.
You might also need to do the same with other airlines, shouldn’t be too hard
The flight numbers don’t change going to the same destination; different dates?
Up to 300 more floating objects have been found floating in the Southern Indian Ocean. Nobody dares to say it is from the missing plane. A massive storm is keeping the navies away.
http://www.sbs.com.au/news/storystream/missing-malaysia-airlines-plane-300-objects-spotted-thailands-satellite
For those reading this:
When was it that somebody stole an airline passenger jet plane from somewhere in Africa and nobody ever saw it again? was it 2006? I do remember it was a big one, perhaps a 737.
Ben – Yes, different dates, one plane flies one day and the other the next.
Ben – All flights Kuala Lumpur to the Seychelles on 7/8 of March 2014
http://cheapfaresindia.makemytrip.com/international/listing/exIndia/RT/KUL-SEZ-D-07Apr2014_SEZ-KUL-D-29Apr2014/A-1/E?userID=80131395932292687
Ben – Forget it, I bugged that one up, I’m tired, off to bed before I make an even bigger fool of myself 🙂
Donald; Flight numbers change apparently.
MH 0179, 9159, 9722, 0796 all from Seychelles to KL. different numbers for business and first class as well.