I had fairly well concluded that the most likely cause was a fire disrupting the electrical and control systems, when CNN now say the sharp left turn was pre-programmed 12 minutes before sign off from Malaysian Air Traffic control, which was followed fairly quickly by that left turn.
CNN claim to have this from an US official, from data sent back before the reporting systems went off. It is hard to know what to make of it: obviously there are large economic interests that much prefer blame to lie with the pilots rather than the aircraft. But if it is true then the move was not a response to an emergency. (CNN went on to say the pilot could have programmed in the course change as a contingency in case of an emergency. That made no sense to me at all – does it to anyone else?)
I still find it extremely unlikely that the plane landed or crashed on land I cannot believe it could evade military detection as it flew over a highly militarized region. Somewhere there is debris on the ocean. There have been previous pilot suicides that took the plane with them; but the long detour first seems very strange and I do not believe is precedented. However if the CNN information on pre-programming is correct, and given it was the co-pilot who signed off to air traffic control, it is hard to look beyond the pilots as those responsible for whatever did happen. In fact, on consideration, the most improbable thing is that information CNN are reporting from the US official.
Apparently I am posting comments too quickly and have to slow down!!
http://www.acukwik.com/AirportInfo/VRMM
Not what you are getting at there Straw, I did look at photos & wiki before posting.
Obviously it is a busy airport as the Maldives are a popular tourist resort.
I still see no reason for landing there when DG would have offered all that was necessary for a covert operation.
I was just saying that Male Airport is almost as separate from the city of Male as DG is, but obviously close to Male. MH370 landing from the north would mean any residents seeing the aircraft probably wouldnt even be able to identify airline.
Wanting to land at DG would not require flying low over the Maldives with a further 700 miles to fly.
Without these eyewitnesses, if they did indeed see MH370 would the focus be on DG to such an extent?
Quite sensational piece of russian media propaganda:
Putins (Russia’s) personal media outlet RT blames the UK, the USA, the IMF and Gladio for missing plane MH370.
Russia’s official voice uses more ‘conspiracy’ than internet blogs.
Worth reading! Dont miss to read the comments, too!
Does Russia know more or is this just war propaganda?
Malaysia MH370: Who has means & motive to take a plane full of people?
http://rt.com/op-edge/lost-airliner-malaysia-nato-china-365/
Katie
This is for you.
I was wondering what kind of nuclear devices they were searching in Claygate? Thorium?
http://www.greenoptions.com/t/4205/should-technology-suppression-be-a-felony-crime-requiring-a-mandatory-5-year-prison-sentence
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Read the below links and you will see that two plasma battery inventors were murdered and the other two disappeared without a trace over two years ago!
Here are their names and the links…
Dimitri Petronov – DIsappeard from a Moscow bakery in 2010
http://peakoil.com/alternative-energy/500000-reward-offered-for-whearbouts-of-russian-plasma-battery-inventor-dimitri-petronov/
Aries DeGeus – Found dead in his car in an airport parking lot
http://www.rexresearch.com/degeus/degeus.htm
MIT Professor Gene Mallove – Beaten to death after giving a national radio interview
http://open.salon.com/blog/green_energy_reports/2011/07/01/thorium_plasma_battery_technology_-_wrongly_top_secret
Danny ????? – Disappeared after returning from China
http://www.zimbio.com/National+Science+Foundation+-+NSF/articles/hB0g3vD3aFY/New+plasma+battery+now+restricted+only+military
To get a grasp of the real problem check these links:
http://exposingcensorship.blogspot.com
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/aug/10/opinion/la-oe-leonard-classified-information-20110810
http://peakoil.com/alternative-energy/plasma-battery-inventors-disappearing-regularly/
Shall we add Saad al Hilli to that list?
However, katie you are totally correct. Sending lithium batteries to china is as sending coal to newcastle. In malaysia they are now even checking the farms where the mangosteens came from but nobody asks questions about the batteries? Strange!
No it wouldn’t Straw, but what is to say that was not ‘after’ DG?
I’m not precise like you, but I originally worked out that the plane could have had around two hours on the ground at DG, then flown out over the Maldives passing overhead at 6-15 local time , flying low to avoid radar & en route to somewhere else……the world is your oyster. 😉
The only fault I see with that is, according to Maldive witnesses the plane was still carrying MAS colours,whereas one of the things to be done at DG, I would have thought, would be to obliterate their logo.
Either this or there were two planes, 370 & 377 ?
Katie
If you check yesterdays postings Nick Turner 11.40 pm:-
Katie 4 April 2014, 8:11pm
From the Haveeru Online report that I linked to earlier:
Eyewitnesses from the Kuda Huvadhoo concurred that the aeroplane was travelling North to South-East towards the Southern tip of the Maldives – Addu.
Comment:- It’s flying towards DG
BB, yep I’ve already known about those missing inventors & links.
I’m pleased you’ve followed that up, because the more you dig the more you find has been suppressed.
Obama speaks on a video here, it’s a brilliant link & well worth watching it has so much info & shows the secret war that is going on with rare earth materials from China & patents. As we all know China has been buying up vast tracts in Africa for this very reason. They are way ahead of the Yanks.
http://www.thoriumenergyalliance.com
I cannot for the life of me think why this is not mentioned for Iran either as it’s a harmless nuclear option….it’s such an obvious solution , why has no one called their bluff. .
Yes I can see a possibility for AH here,could he have been about to blab something he knew on this ?
Again Straw, it does not explain why they would fly to the further point to ‘refuel’ when DG looks nearer on my map.
Are they mistaken & unaware of any scheduled MAS flight taking off at that time & that’s why the authorities dismissed it ?
If not then I’m seriously thinking the plane they saw was not 370….but maybe another just as suspicious & involved in this game of espionage.
BB. This has gone already; http://articles.latimes.com/2011/aug/10/opinion/la-oe-leonard-classified-information-20110810
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Scrap that previous comment, the link works on my post but not on yours BB.
Breaking …………….
Chinese have found a pulse in their search area !!!
Earthquakes, submarines and even sea animals … all ping at between 33Khz and 40Khz .. some go as high as 90Khz.
Don’t put too much stock in a single ping, had it been the black box it would have been repetitive.
It could be that they picked up the earthquake that occurred in China or maybe a whale or a dolphin. one pulse means nothing.
Hi Donald, I’ve already decided it’s coming from the US sub in the area. LoL !
Hi, Katie – You don’t think them’s trying to fool us, do you? 🙂
Katie
I would see SAH more as the inventor doing experiments in his garage.
Satellites would be the first thing where they would use Thorium energy supplies.
Ooh arrrh I think it’s a strong possibility , Donald. If this is the BB then where is the plane,passengers & debris ?
The competition amongst the searching countries must be enormous…not to mention CNN finding this news positively orgasmic !!!`
Areva holds one of the two Thorium production patents. The second necessary Thorium production patent is held by Cezus Ugine.
Well, ….
http://www.google.st/patents/US20100113858
http://www.google.st/patents/US8221520
Tim v , q, marlin, nr and katie, over to you …
Katie – Bill Schofield, an Australian scientist who worked on developing flight data recorders, said: “If they do find it, I think it’ll be remarkable.”
That just about says it all, I doubt if they’ve found anything, this is just propaganda for mass consumption.
Goodness me BB, well done !
They don’t seem to be onto the same wavelength there & how odd for a company like Areva to be talking about the medical benefits, but maybe that’s just for public consumption.
Some more links in this article.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread835973/pg1
Who would have command and control of BUAP? CIA?, it was asked.
Is there any air between US security apparatus and Boeing?
Clark; Welcome to the discussion. Your analytical input will be appreciated.
Katie
This is a pretty interesting story regarding thorium, malaysia and australia.
Add up that Areva/Cezus-Ugine holds the thorium production patent ….
http://www.the-weinberg-foundation.org/2012/12/14/why-the-world-needs-a-thorium-bank/
The Malaysian government this week abruptly threatened to shut down a brand new rare earth processing plant – a move that dramatically underscores the need for international co-ordination of rare earth mining and its valuable energy related by-product, thorium.Four Malaysian cabinet ministers said they would revoke the license of Australian mining company Lynas Corp. to process rare earth metals unless Lynas exports all “waste material” Mining.com reported.The “waste” is believed to include thorium – the mildly radioactive element that could replace uranium as a nuclear fuel and help establish safer, more efficient and less proliferation prone nuclear power.Thorium typically co-exists in rocks that also contain rare earths, the metals that are vital to the world’s economy. Manufacturers build them into missiles, radar, cars, wind turbines, iPods, mobile phones, light bulbs and many other everyday products.WASTE NOT
A couple of weeks after Lynas opened its Lynas Advance Material Plant in Kuantan on Malaysia’s east coast, the government ministers joined forces to tell the company it could not keep the waste in the country, according to Mining.com.The trade publication said that Lynas had intended all along to treat and store the waste on site, and implied that Lynas was caught off guard by the government’s demand.Lynas responded in a stock exchange filing that it planned to process the waste into a “co-product” which it would either export or sell in Malaysia, Reuters reported.The story did not make clear what those “co-products” are. Advocates of thorium noted that they could not include thorium, because there’s no significant current market for the substance. A thorium nuclear movement would, of course, open new trade outlets.“Unfortunately for Lynas, there is no place to take the waste thorium,” said Jim Kennedy, president of St. Louis, Missouri- based ThREEM3, a thorium and rare earth consulting firm that also owns rights to rare earth by-products from Missouri’s Pea Ridge iron ore mine. “This is a serious problem for Lynas.”ROCK AND A HARD PLACELynas does indeed appear to literally be between a Malaysian rock and a hard place.
“Drones are autonomous; in the absence of command signals they switch back to whatever was pre-programmed”
Clark; Are you thinking of Tomahawks? the primitive version of today’s drones were merely GPS guided missiles with a sateilite-guided targeting system.
UAV’s are manipulated by joy-stick; human operated.
http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/08/remote-controlled-autopilot-to-prevent-hijacking/
http://homment.com/boeings-uninterruptible.
Very interesting BB, I wonder why they are in Malaysia & I never thought of Thorium as a waste product.
But also, from your link, what a surprise to see someone suggesting just what I said earlier about Iran using it for their nuclear program,it would remove a great deal of tension in the region !
http://www.the-weinberg-foundation.org/2013/12/05/thorium-fuels-and-4th-generation-reactors-could-provide-irans-nuclear-energy-with-a-lesser-proliferation-risk/
Ben-Scot, 3:30 pm:
Yes but they’re often controlled from great distance with many links in the chain, so interruption or loss of control signals has been anticipated; they fall back to autonomous mode.
Ben-Scot, 3:30 pm; and some drone behaviours are preprogrammed in advance, presumably to save time for the operators, or just for convenience. The drone that Iran landed apparently had a preprogrammed landing sequence which the Iranians claimed to have activated.
From 2006…http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/diagrams-boeing-patents-anti-terrorism-auto-land-system-for-hijacked-210869/
“The “uninterruptible” autopilot would be activated – either by pilots, by onboard sensors, or even remotely via radio or satellite links by government agencies like the Central Intelligence Agency, if terrorists attempt to gain control of a flight deck.
Boeing says: “We are constantly studying ways we can enhance the safety, security and effiecency of the world’s airline fleet.”
“There is a need in the industry for a technique that conclusively prevents unauthorised persons for gaining access to the controls of the vehicle and therefore threatening the safety of the passengers onboard the vehicle, and/or other people in the path of travel of the vehicle, thereby decreasing the amount of destruction individuals onboard the vehicle would be capable of causing,” the patent authors write. “In particular, there is a need for a technique that ensures the continuation of the desired path of travel of a vehicle by removing any type of human decision process that may be influenced by the circumstances of the situation, including threats or further violence onboard the vehicle.”
Every Boeing aircraft were scheduled for BUAP completion in 2009.