I had fairly well concluded that the most likely cause was a fire disrupting the electrical and control systems, when CNN now say the sharp left turn was pre-programmed 12 minutes before sign off from Malaysian Air Traffic control, which was followed fairly quickly by that left turn.
CNN claim to have this from an US official, from data sent back before the reporting systems went off. It is hard to know what to make of it: obviously there are large economic interests that much prefer blame to lie with the pilots rather than the aircraft. But if it is true then the move was not a response to an emergency. (CNN went on to say the pilot could have programmed in the course change as a contingency in case of an emergency. That made no sense to me at all – does it to anyone else?)
I still find it extremely unlikely that the plane landed or crashed on land I cannot believe it could evade military detection as it flew over a highly militarized region. Somewhere there is debris on the ocean. There have been previous pilot suicides that took the plane with them; but the long detour first seems very strange and I do not believe is precedented. However if the CNN information on pre-programming is correct, and given it was the co-pilot who signed off to air traffic control, it is hard to look beyond the pilots as those responsible for whatever did happen. In fact, on consideration, the most improbable thing is that information CNN are reporting from the US official.
@Bluebird: I thought it was time for a reminder of Flight 93 and the transponder turned off:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._military_response_during_the_September_11_attacks
Missing aircraft, disappearing aircraft, same old, same old.
Same old, same old:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_government_operations_and_exercises_on_September_11,_2001
http://www.nunatsiaqonline.ca/stories/article/65674two_years_after_nunavuts_resolute_bay_crash_more_questions_than_answer/
The crash of First Air Boeing 737-200C has now been explained, and as you might have guessed, pilot error is prominent on the list.
FWIW, the military personnel were training at the site of a previous airplane crash in the same area, and initial photographs of the site erroneously labelled the previous wreckage as then-current wreckage. I mention this because of the issue of mistaken identity in such a situation. Coincidences, to be sure.
http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/unlikely-coincidence-helps-plane-crash-survivors-128100
Thanks Q, all very interesting.
Bluebird
6 Apr, 2014 – 9:59 am isn’t it just amazing how these systems are bigged up to get the funding then when anything of importance happens for some reason or other they become ineffective? Either they were lying the first time round or the second. Do we need to be reminded of 9/11, or de Menezes, or Diana, or 7/7 to name but a few. Radar out. Cameras out. No leads. “Bottom of the ocean” for sure before a scrap of evidence. Sure sign of dirty tricks if ever i saw them. Increasingly we are coming to realise behind the angelic smile of western democracies lurks a demonic grimace. “All we like sheep have gone astray”.
Apologies NR for repeating yur point. Only just got to it. I really am not needed here. 🙁 lol
Here’s a point that might not have been made yet. Britain sends a ship 28 days after the plane is said to have gone down in the Southern Ocean. In other words when the mission is doomed to failure. If as they announced they had “credible” evidence, why did they not deploy acoustic detectors immediately? There can be no reason other than … What outrages me me, and one would wish the whole British electorate, that we are tied into this almighty fraud as we must have been with 9/11. Let the politicians explain why, even if we were not involved in the planning of this thing, we are prepared to go along with the cover-up. Western politics has become a stinking mess.
Q 7.46 from your ref. “Nunavut: Within minutes after the Boeing 737-200 passenger jet slammed into a hill in Canada’s remote Arctic region, military helicopters were landing at the crash site to evacuate the three survivors of the crash that killed 12 people. In an unlikely coincidence, several hundred military personnel in the region preparing for a mock airliner crash training exercise suddenly found themselves plunged into a real rescue mission.”
What are the chances that every disaster seems to have a parallel mock exercise in the same place, at the same time, imagining the same circumstances?
They’re at it again. To simplify matters for stupid viewers CNN compares the current search area to Romania or Utah and the ocean depth to not only stacked Eiffel Towers, but also Empire State Buildings, Burj Dubais and some skyscraper in Tokyo. No Petronas Towers. A subtle diss of Malaysia?
We know now that both Romania and Utah are smaller than Poland which was last week’s example.
@Tim V 6 Apr, 2014 – 9:00 pm “Apologies NR for repeating yur point.”
Apology accepted. Plagiarism lawsuit dropped. 🙂
I thought of an understandable example of area. They should say, “If the current search area was covered with a single layer of US $100 dollar bills it would be enough to buy cocaine for both Hollywood and DC for a three day weekend.”
@Tim V 9:13 pm: Consider who was on the plane. One man was an Arctic researcher with the Polar Continental Shelf Program:
http://www.ipolitics.ca/2011/09/01/lives-lived-peter-mansbridge-remembers-arctic-expert-marty-bergmann/
http://rcgs.org/awards/bergmann_medal/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-16861468
China has an interest in staking a claim to arctic regions.
http://www.nunatsiaqonline.ca/stories/article/65674china_enters_the_arctic_equation/
The South China Sea is mentioned in relation to sovereignty claims. Satellites are mentioned as part of military hardware, and the “the glint of steel that makes diplomacy work”. Does any ordinary citizen have a clue about what is going on behind the scenes in this strange new world? What do the scientists know that we cannot be allowed to know?
This is strictly an aside, but it shows that China is becoming increasingly “assertive” (as described in the article) with other nations and is most keen to expand its territory.
This is timely:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/06/chuck-hagel-us-send-missile-destroyers-japan-north-korean-threat
@Q: Not only China.
http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2014/03/03/Putin-Eyes-Canada-s-North-Pole-Santa-Claus-Threatened
It’s Putin’s diabolical, Grinchly plot to block Christmas and thus destroy both the corrupt crony-capitalist US oligarchs and the corrupt crony-communist Chinese toy-making oligarchs leaving corrupt Russian crony-mafia oligarchs triumphant.
More seriously:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/the-north/pole-position-putins-push-for-arctic-power/article16397304//RK=0/RS=fYuwYYbVYXJJX67U.FXOZXRy6VE-
Hot find!!
Sarah Bajc, currently working for a – well – “mysterious” Jewish company in China
Sarah Bajc is the setup “girlfriend” of the american IBM guy who was “passenger” in the 777.
Here she is on CNN over and over
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpKot27qbyw
Who is Sarah Bajc? Formerly working for a Tel Aviv based company she currently works in China for a jewish company:
http://chamber.com/sarah-bajc
This is the jewish company she is currently working for.
http://www.yuanfenflow.org/
Quote
[strong]Designers and Artists turn imagination into reality. What they visualize becomes manifested into something tangible; they create actualized experiences.[/strong]
(Ed. Of course, e.g. flying mysteriously to the South Pole)
[strong]Yuanfen is a Chinese word generally translated into English as “destiny” or “fate.”
Its origins lie in an ancient Taoist concept of the cosmos as fabric with people, time, places, things and events running along the threads of the warp and weft. (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
At the intersection of the weave is where yuanfen occurs. “Flow” is the mental state of an individual fully immersed in a feeling of energized focus; action and self merge into a state of concentration, purpose, and fulfillment. These intangible elements of yuanfen and the Flow provide a framework to nurture the Creative Process in ourselves, our membership community (tribe) and with our clients. We have sought to manifest this “DNA” in our physical structure for all who enter Yuanfen~Flow Consulting Studio.http://www.yuanfenflow.org/
While most innovative ideas build on the brilliance of others, true innovation, built on passion, only comes when one is in FLOW.
[strong]David Ben Kay (founder of Yuanfen)[/strong]
This is David Ben Kay’s father:
http://www.jhsgw.org/israel60/slideshow/development-corporation.php
https://www.facebook.com/beijingdave
http://www.meetup.com/History-and-culture2/members/58101502/
David Ben Kay: “I am a Jew and I live in Peking”
Finally dont forget the malaysian twin plane in Tel Aviv!!
Following up Sarah Bajc who is convinced that her (setup?) financee is still alive and she appearing up and down on CNN now:
Did any theory so far consider that?
Going through yuanfenflow this seems to me one of the most likely options now.
E.g. that the passengers paid (or were elected because of special talents or knowledge) for a special service from a special company???
E.g. Buy a ticket for a flight into your new life!
Enter the plane with depths or with a job you dislike or with a life you dislike and leave the plane a few hours later with a new identity, a new name and in another world.
All we want you to do in return is working and spying for israel.
With all the financial demise in the world today with intelligent and well educated people going bankrupt and depressive this “ticket into a new life” could be a prosperous business option for smart companies who are working with a secret service or working with a powerful government.
Yuanfenflow
Concept of the cosmos as fabric with people, time, places, things and events running along the threads of the warp and weft.
777
Purchase your lucky triple seven flight into your new life!
Yuanfenflow (your “new life” service – and of course we cash your insurance).
We are closely working with some almost bankrupt airlines who are in urgent need of insurance money.
Bb
Some good reading here this morning.
Re; Sarah Bejc .
She was on CNN immediately that plane disappeared, she was seen as utterly distraught,almost hysterical,hair a mess & sobbing.
Then when she showed up 3 days [?] later , I thought it was a different woman, groomed, emotionless to the point of cold, subsequent interviews have shown her to be an eloquent determined woman without a trace of loss in her manner.
There’s been no mention [ that I’ve heard] from her about the message buzzing around Twitter, from Wood in DG.
What I want to know is what brought such a change in her when her ‘boyfriend’ is still missing,presumed dead , why no emotion now, she sure seems to have got over him mighty quick ?
Or of course she may something she’s not telling us.
There are two links that are linking the jewish Bajc family to Mossad. I dont know whether or not they are working for mossad and whether that’s true or false. However, without any doubts whatsover, the Bajc family is jewish.
http://nodisinfo.com/mossad-clique-busted-in-malaysian-airlines-hoax/
http://www.vidabajc.com/
Interesting profession and interesting books.
Some more info regarding her jewish boss David Ben Kay.
http://www.ichinaforum.com/experts/david-ben-kay
http://english.cri.cn/4406/2008/12/03/1141s429361.htm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRnj5vT1bDw
“Book your flight to Oz – a win-win deal!”
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1062048511&postcount=2710
Looking at photograph 2 I’d say that this is the actual locator being used on the Chinese boat
http://www.benthos.com/index.php/pro…pl-275-locator
According to the manufacturers specifications, its operational range is 183 metres.
How likely is it that this locator is picking up signals from a black box pinger 4500 metres below ?
And lets not forget that this particular pinger has now exceeded its 30 day battery rating, so presumably the strength of any signals will now be decreasing, until such time that the battery finally dies.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1062048535&postcount=2712
@bluebird 7 Apr, 2014 – 7:13 am: “Sarah Bajc, currently working for a – well – “mysterious” Jewish company in China…”
Did you see this bio?
http://dailyentertainmentnews.com/breaking-news/sarah-bajc-malaysian-airlines-flight-mh370-us-passenger-philip-woods-girlfriend/
Wood is variously described as “works for IBM” and an “IBM executive”. There is a LinkedIn page where he describes himself as a “Mass Storage Executive” with IBM.
If you have time do a quick image search of Wood. The pics are mostly of him solo, a few with Bajc and two with his sons. All show him within the last 5 years or so. Nothing earlier and no candid ones with friends or work colleagues. In most all he’s wearing similar clothes. Levis, dark blue Under Armour tee, sometimes a black jacket or ball cap.
@straw44berry 7 Apr, 2014 – 10:47 am: The ping detector is indeed made by Benthos. CNN or Fox interviewed someone from the company and they said while it was well beyond the specified distance, sometimes underwater acoustics are unusual and the Chinese could have briefly heard one of the black boxes.
NR
I shall look tonight for him.
Meanwhile i dud research their strange name because this is no historic name. I strongly guess that this is an adopted name created from an acronym (see below):
Jewish Community Relations Bureau|American Jewish Committee.
http://jcrbajc.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=55&Itemid=69
http://www.ajcongress.org/site/PageServer
@Katie
6 Apr, 2014 – 7:01 pm
Ping pong!
Mochyn . Avon calling ? 😉
NR
Just a quick first report
Sarah Bajc
Her maiden name is Sarah Hamil and she was born in Utah.
Prior to 1995 she must have married Stephen (Steve) Bajc and she’s still married to him. No divorce records. Both of them are living in Beijing. He’s a college teacher in Beijing (Western Academy) and she’s also working part time as a teacher for Western Academy in Beijing.
Philipp Wood doesnt really fit into that picture unless they were sort of living a “menage a trois”.
NR
Stephen Bajc doesnt have any USA records prior to their marriage.
It looks as if he never lived in the USA prior to their wedding or else that he also had a different surname before they married.
The Chinese ship which supposedly picked up a couple of pings also apparently say a number of white objects floating in the water. There has been no mention of whether these objects were picked up for testing or not, instead all the ships simply rushed to the area like chooks in a panick.
http://www.mininggazette.com/page/content.detail/id/533580/Former-Houghton-resident-apos-s-life-partner-was-on-Malaysian-flight-370.html?nav=5006
This was the father of Sarah Bajc (Hamil)
http://www.tributes.com/obituary/show/Brenton-M.-Hamil-99820151
I wonder if anybody realized that the Chinese now have a British Submarine propeller’s frequency in their database? I wonder what other information we have inadvertently given them without thinking apart from the fact that now they know our supposed radar net is as useless as teats on a bull when considers there is no one manning the equipment 🙁
This is Sarah Bajc’ brother:
http://www.advancedbackgroundchecks.com/d/brenton-hamil/163608281