I had fairly well concluded that the most likely cause was a fire disrupting the electrical and control systems, when CNN now say the sharp left turn was pre-programmed 12 minutes before sign off from Malaysian Air Traffic control, which was followed fairly quickly by that left turn.
CNN claim to have this from an US official, from data sent back before the reporting systems went off. It is hard to know what to make of it: obviously there are large economic interests that much prefer blame to lie with the pilots rather than the aircraft. But if it is true then the move was not a response to an emergency. (CNN went on to say the pilot could have programmed in the course change as a contingency in case of an emergency. That made no sense to me at all – does it to anyone else?)
I still find it extremely unlikely that the plane landed or crashed on land I cannot believe it could evade military detection as it flew over a highly militarized region. Somewhere there is debris on the ocean. There have been previous pilot suicides that took the plane with them; but the long detour first seems very strange and I do not believe is precedented. However if the CNN information on pre-programming is correct, and given it was the co-pilot who signed off to air traffic control, it is hard to look beyond the pilots as those responsible for whatever did happen. In fact, on consideration, the most improbable thing is that information CNN are reporting from the US official.
Harald – Your 7:24 Look at a picture of Pine Gap and you will know what its technology is, Dishes and Antennas is all you will see.
http://www.fsfiles.org/imagehost/uploads/1281885882.jpg
Just a big radio receiver.
Strange thoughts about the mobile phone of the pilot connecting.
I mean, conspiracy but seen before in movies.
What if the pilot and some friends went down to e.g. 3000 ft., give flight instructions to the auto pilot for the next 6 hours and then open the door and jump? During the jump the mobile phone connects, when entering the water below it disconnects.
The first command is FL45 with an open door and everybody on board dies.
Strange movie script but another conspiracy
New twist!
A celltower in Penang picked up the co-pilots mobile, but there was no attempt to make a call (type of a “ping” again).
So, why then and not relier as the flight went over Malaysia at 5000ft, and with 290 pax, there should have been more “pings” than just one from the co-pilot. And as Penang picked up the mobile, then the course of MH 370 seems to have followed the Malaysian border and then changed to NW after passing Penang if the flight was to “round the corner” of Banda Ahec without showing up on radar = the original course does not match.
I say the whole thing stinks ore and more:
http://www.nst.com.my/nation/general/call-traced-to-co-pilot-s-phone-1.562612?cache=03%2F7.166389%2F7.166389%2F7.261895%2F7.261895%2F7.266429%2F7.266429%3Fkey%3DMalaysia%3Fkey%3DMalaysia%2F7.478218%2F7.478218%2F7.478218
Dugu.
I won’t get excited about that, just like my iPod or laptop will connect automatically when in a hotspot so did that phone.
Really after weeks of wanting information why would this come out today ?
Don’t worry they’ll say it was an error tomorrow.
BB.
Er…………interesting James Bond type of stuff, possible maybe………… but highly unlikely. 😉
Donald, that’s very interesting, more so because I don’t recall seeing anything like that at DG…..
Latest news is that the search has been narrowed down to 50Km square and no more pings have been received, depth over 4 Km.
The US-Australian facilities on the Northwest Cape, especially the Henry Holt Naval Intelligence Center near Geraldton, is not Pine Gap, and is far closer to the alleged wreckage, and can monitor all kinds of cellphone calls, radar blips, and airborne and undersea presence.
See, as I have already written, Caldicott for it being far different from a radio receiver – what was used in Pine Gap to capture Soviet microwave communication to the Far East.
The co-pilot allegedly turning on his cellphone is to keep alive the alleged diversion on the day the pigs stopped and Abbott kept lying for NSA.
[craigmurray.org.uk – Kenneth Sorensen is now banned for racist insults and conflicting with moderators.]
Kenneth – “…As long as the government decides to do something, something that the national interest demanded, then it is legitimate. But if an individual wants to do the same thing, it isn’t. That’s just the way it is. It’s very simple…”
Makes perfect sense to me.
Bye Kenneth
Fucking Jew named “Jon” (sic!) what the hell are you doing you fucking Jew!
[craigmurray.org.uk – this comment was queued for moderation but approved so Sorenson’s hatred can be seen clearly. It was submitted from the IP address 62.199.34.66 in case the authorities wish to act against hate-speech.]
The failure to release the passenger manifest of Asiana Flight 214, apparently by the NTSB, is most intriguing as only 280 of the 307 passengers are only described by nationality, and only the crew by name.
Since no Europeans are mentioned on the flight, one can assume that those two Iranians, using stolen European passports, are along the missing 27 passengers, and the American spooks are responsible for the absence to keep these assets for another time – what happened on March 8th.
I will now travel to the UK and see if I can find this fucking Jew named “Jon” (sic!). And then he will be killde – if this is the alst thing I’m going to do in this world: He will be killed – and in this way make Britain and the world a better place.
[craigmurray.org.uk – this comment was released from the moderation queue to display this commenter’s extreme ethnic hatred and use of false identification. The commenter is issuing specific death-threats in response to deletion of comments. Typographic errors suggest the rage is genuine. The comment came from IP address 62.199.34.66 This commenter has used various e-mail addresses including niels77 at gmail.com, jorgen6 at operamail.com and k.sorensen at operamail.com]
Hardly surprising that Sorensen should reappear now after i raised the possibility of the crash of MH370 being another suicide bombing, thanks to the suicide bombers that British Ambassador to Israel Matthew Gouuld might have hoped recruit while serving for MI6 in Tehran.
Could Sorensen just be protecting the Mossad in this cock-up too, like he did in the al-Hillis murder threads?
“It’s not clear if BUAP is actually installed in any or all Boeing aircraft.”
The goal was completion by 2007. I have not seen whether that was reached, NR.
The suicide bombing of MH370 seems to be a repeat of Asiana Flight 214 one where it was done while the plane was cruising at 35,000 feet rather than while landing by the two Iranians who had been recruited by the Mossad at the instigation of British Ambassador Gould to sock it to the Chinese and Iranians in the wake of the Neil Heywood fiasco, thanks to the criticism that former DCI Leon Panetta had made of the MI6 effort.
The only trouble with the MH370 sabotage was that it was done when Washington is now most desirous of cooling down its dsiputes with them, especially ending through diplomatic efforts Iran’s nuclear weapons program, resulting in Washington to get Malayisia, Australia, and China to do everything they could to cover up the massive, unwanted mess – what they have now done.
Plane and its victims will apparently never be found because the search is thousands of miles away from where they are.
Trowbridge – Why would anybody highjack a plane, fly it to its original destination and then crash the plane during an attempted landing?
I thought the plane’s captain, had just 35 hours of experience with the auto throttles and made too slow and approach?
Trow; Aren’t most false flags meant as a misdirection? I keep asking if MH 370 was a diversion from greater plans in more precipitous regions. What was the hot news before the event?
Curiously, the Ukraine/Syrian/Iran potential gift to Neocons was not going well because so many eyes were on it.
Where are we concentrating the past 6 weeks? If MH 370 has any connection to Iran, and the event is a misdirection, likely it has nothing to do with Iran.
The Asiana flight was sabotaged by fires which knocked out its control system, and would have resulted in a total disaster it pilot Lee had not pulled up the nose just before impact, stopping the plane from dipping over, and everyone one being burned up.
The sabotage was apparent caused by a hand-held laser being fired up through the ceiling of one of the toilets, and bringing back down a bolt of lighting which knocked out the control system, and caused those two fires before impact, and the NTSb refuses to even admit, much less explain.
This time the two Iranians made no mistake when and where to start the deadly fires.
This truth is stranger than any fiction.
Here are two videos of the Asiatic Flight 214 crash
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=VioP4zOx-Ac
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Elu-zGxHNNc
Here is a video of a Tour of NTSB flight-data and cockpit-voice recorder laboratories. Worth a look
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qySabJsMhkw
Ben, I have tried to show that the MH370 crash was a false flag operation to get the Chinese to go along with some kind of military solution to the Iranian problem, but it didn’t work at SFO, and gave Beijing time and the opportunity to figure out what was going on with those two Iranians who went fromThailand to China to board Flight 214.
That changed everything.
Off topic (some quick investigation research for the mods)
For those who are interested
The user of the IP 62.199.34.66 is using the nickname/username “honeynsalt805” (ID=3668) on Amazon AWS service.
The IP address is Danish and he pays his fees to telianet.dk
0x3ec72242.inet.dsl.telianet.dk/62.199.34.66 Connection Count
Further investigations into real name etc. would take some time though and i’ll do that only if requested by the mods.
[craigmurray.org.uk – thanks; there’s no need to investigate further. That IP address was first used by “Sorenson” on 2014/04/12 at 04:10. The last use of Sorenson’s previous IP address was on 2014/04/10 at 14:11. If “honeynsalt805” (ID=3668) on Amazon AWS is older than that, it probably has no connection to “Sorenson”.]
“niels77 at gmail.com”
Is “gmail” caps specific ?
Because that email links through to an address in Belgium (and telephone number).
http://www.netwerklounge.be/xsited/contact
[craigmurray.org.uk – e-mail addresses are not case sensitive. Beware inferring anything from those e-mail addresses as “Sorenson” probably just invented them. People like “Sorenson” hardly ever use genuine identification.]
Jon
Invented email address or nicked ?
If so…he’s nicked it from a “Niels Van Den Bossche” in Antwerp.
http://be.linkedin.com/in/nielsvdbossche
@Ben-Joseph N. Welch 12 Apr, 2014 – 2:46 pm
NR said: “It’s not clear if BUAP is actually installed in any or all Boeing aircraft.”
Ben said: “The goal was completion by 2007. I have not seen whether that was reached, NR.”
Some sites, both conspiracy and pilots’ forums, claim that over the years govt. pages referring to BUAP have been scrubbed.
Doesn’t seem like a sales feature for Boeing selling internationally to acknowledge its planes can be taken over at any time by the US govt. And if the system allowed takeover by other govts. or an international agency, that wouldn’t put US passengers at ease.
Don’t see BUAP remaining a secret for too long. Maintenance facilities worldwide, many of them outside contractors, would know of it.
NR….
If you want a laugh (and a look into the real world) google…..
“Turkish IFF system”
IFF is “Id Friend or Foe”
News has Malaysians investigating their own incompetence in not seeing MH370 crossing back over their country and if they did why they didn’t do anything about it.
Shouldn’t advanced countries be investigating why their spies and military didn’t detect the plane and if they did why they haven’t announced where it came down?
I suspect the answer is they know it came down in the search area. The PM of Australia has twice been confident in stating that, and there’s no upside in him lying. The Inmarsat tracks were worked backward to provide a plausible cover.
The loop of the track to avoid Indonesian radar seems more like a cover story concocted so as not to reveal Indonesian radar didn’t catch it. The only evidence for the looping track is an absence of evidence — the Indonesia radar worked marvelously and since it didn’t see the plane it surely skirted the country.
Mangosteens
http://malaysianfruits.wordpress.com/2009/08/19/mangosteen/
Quote
Mangosteens keep well for 3-4 weeks in storage at 40C to 55C.
What’s the temp in an airplane cargo?
Well below!
Are mangosteens being carried in heated boxes?
If so, how’s that heat created?
With lithium batteries?