I had fairly well concluded that the most likely cause was a fire disrupting the electrical and control systems, when CNN now say the sharp left turn was pre-programmed 12 minutes before sign off from Malaysian Air Traffic control, which was followed fairly quickly by that left turn.
CNN claim to have this from an US official, from data sent back before the reporting systems went off. It is hard to know what to make of it: obviously there are large economic interests that much prefer blame to lie with the pilots rather than the aircraft. But if it is true then the move was not a response to an emergency. (CNN went on to say the pilot could have programmed in the course change as a contingency in case of an emergency. That made no sense to me at all – does it to anyone else?)
I still find it extremely unlikely that the plane landed or crashed on land I cannot believe it could evade military detection as it flew over a highly militarized region. Somewhere there is debris on the ocean. There have been previous pilot suicides that took the plane with them; but the long detour first seems very strange and I do not believe is precedented. However if the CNN information on pre-programming is correct, and given it was the co-pilot who signed off to air traffic control, it is hard to look beyond the pilots as those responsible for whatever did happen. In fact, on consideration, the most improbable thing is that information CNN are reporting from the US official.
Bay of Bengal….
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370-authorities-to-investigate-claims-an-exploration-company-may-have-found-wreckage-in-the-bay-of-bengal-9300768.html
Funny how GeoResonance knew where to look first.
From your 8:38 Q.
“Irving said that all parties involved in assisting the Malaysian government have remained “very tight-lipped about what is going on”.
Indeed
“The Americans – Boeing and National Transport Safety Bureau staff – in Kuala Lumpur only released a statement saying they “have been an active and engaged party to the investigation”.”
Making themselves complicit…..
“The British, represented by the Air Accidents Investigation Board (AAIB), too, did not disclose anything, said Irving.”
‘Natch !
For reference:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia%E2%80%93Ukraine_relations
“In 2003, Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad paid an official visit to meet the President of Ukraine Leonid Kuchma. Since the visit, the relations between these two countries are greatly focus on the economic, scientific, military-technical and humanitarian spheres aspects.”
Report ignored since March 31, 2014:
http://www.airtrafficmanagement.net/2014/04/georesonance-press-release/
Jeez, Q. GeoResonance is stepping on some dangerous toes. They don’t like being made out liars or fools.
I don’t know where Geo Resonance could have gotten the images to steer them in the direction of the Bay of Bengal, but I do know that DMC International Imaging attended a remote sensing conference in Melbourne, Australia in 2013:
http://www.igarss2013.org/Exhibition.asp
(Booth 20)
About resonant satellites:
https://www.surrey.ac.uk/ssc/research/astrodynamics/mission_experience/repeat_groundtrack_orbits/
From what I know of scientists, they get frustrated at the telling of lies, Ben.
Squonk’s response to the news.
“On The Professional Pilots Rumour Forum there is the most active moderation that has ever been seen. Certain topics related to MH370 vanish within minutes of being posted every time. Doesn’t matter how senior the poster is. A few comments from senior posters have said that the forum “management” is being very heavily leaned upon. A few moments later these posts go as well.
I still think the Inmarsat analysis makes sense. However if they started with fake radio data in the first place then the analysis would appear to make sense but would simply be wrong.
Garbage In Garbage Out.”
The plot no longer thickens, it unravels.
I was reading recently about cyclone season, and realized that the Bay of Bengal is is watched by disaster-monitoring satellites for cyclones. Wouldn’t it be ironic if that is the technology that will lead to the wreckage of MH370?
http://www.scidev.net/global/earth-science/feature/remote-sensing-for-natural-disasters-facts-and-figures.html?from=related%20articles
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India_Meteorological_Department
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antrix_Corporation
There is a cyclone-monitoring centre in Chennai. This might correspond with the alleged location of MH370 by Geo Resonance.
Hyderabad, India has a National Remote Sensing Centre:
http://www.isro.gov.in/publications/pdf/GlimpsesOfIndianSpaceProgram.pdf
Q; Indian awareness of their environment is a small parcel of the hectares of coverage of the ‘cooperating’ nations involved in the search. It is UNfathomable when I hear experts on CNN being asked by idiota Wolf Blitzer “Should the search area change to the Bay of Bengal?” Then, in the hope they will be invited back, fall into that trap.
Theme of international search: No thanks. We’ll do it our way.
The international search team refuses to consider GeoResonance’s data, in spite of finding nothing so far with their own data. Geo Resonance so far has not released exact coordinates for the item they’ve found, but they have given that information to authorities. They will only consider the current search area. Head in sand?
http://www.3news.co.nz/Officials-dismiss-claim-MH370-wreckage-found/tabid/417/articleID/342088/Default.aspx
Would somebody please investigate all the 210-foot shark carcasses on the ocean floor in various locations? What is going on with all the sharks these days? Did two 210-foot sharks drop onto the ocean floor at the same time very recently?
Maybe a bounty on 210-foot sharks would provide some answers.
Why hasn’t a single member of the international media covering MH370 gone to another company to ask about how GeoResonance’s technology works? Here’s one, chosen at random.
http://geoexplorations.com/
It might also be useful to go to some universities that teach remote sensing, and ask about the new technologies in this field. But no, no one has done so.
Maybe Surrey Satellites could provide some insight, as they lease and build satellites for such purposes, and are under contract to countries including China.
If it weren’t for the current troubles, a phone call to this university might provide some independent answers on remote sensing capabilities devised in Sevastopol:
http://dvs.net.ua/index.shtml
A reader’s comment:
“Jamie Shepherd says: April 29, 2014 at 8:12 pm”
““GeoResonance Remote Sensing analyses super-weak electromagnetic fields captured by airborne multispectral images.” No – sorry, it sounds like Star Trek made up mumbo jumbo to me. Who cares about all their combined PhD’s etc. The ability to detect different metallic AND non metallic substances under 3000 feet of water from either space or aircraft, they don’t say, is too fantastic. This is a wrong’un – methinks they’re taking the mineral exploration industry for a ride.”
http://www.airtrafficmanagement.net/2014/04/georesonance-press-release/
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/business/sa-business-journal/adelaide-company-georesonance-to-use-former-soviet-union-weapons-technology-to-search-for-for-oil-and-gas-in-sa-qld/story-e6fredel-1226631746538
@NR: Ah, but it’s not under 3000 feet of water. The company says this technology works at depths of up to 5000 feet, but look:
“GeoResonance has discovered what they believe to be the wreckage of a commercial aircraft. The wreckage is located approximately 190km south of Bangladesh in the Bay of Bengal. The wreckage is sitting on the seabed approximately 1000m to 1100m from the surface. The company is not declaring this is MH370, however it should be investigated.”
From: http://www.airtrafficmanagement.net/2014/04/georesonance-press-release/
The commenter refers to the international team’s search, which is an entirely different scenario in a different place at a different depth. It’s the classic straw man.
Remember Saad al-Hilli’s work with DMC International Imaging? They have satellites that carry cloud-penetrating synthetic aperture radar.
https://www.surrey.ac.uk/ssc/activity/phd_projects/small_satellite_sar.htm
http://www.sstl.co.uk/Downloads/Datasheets/1761-SSTL-Comparative-Res-Datasheet-IQ
There is another company in Surrey that has ground-penetrating radar, capable of finding the buried bodies of serial killers:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ERA_Technology_Ltd
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ground_Penetrating_Radar
http://www.earthsciences.osu.edu/~jeff/Library/BASICS.PDF
This technique can be used from the air by antenna. Ultra wideband SAR is also mentioned, with regard to landmines.
Water is less dense than rock or earth. A 210-foot airplane containing metals is considerably larger than a human body, and 239 human bodies are certainly more than one.
This is the reality of 21st century science. Clearly, that commenter is uninformed, or intent on misleading readers.
NR; GR is pseudoscience? I guess time will tell. The interesting thing is that they BEGAN their search in an area of most interest.
That the Australian search was based on ‘flotsam’ from purported ‘jetsam’ when little else was evidentiary, should make them tenuous, rather than dismissive of the GR efforts.
The Malaysian government will release its preliminary report tomorrow:
http://www.airtrafficmanagement.net/2014/04/mh370-preliminary-report-is-imminent/
This is not the same report sent to the ICAO. Remember, it is not standard protocol to send these reports to the ICAO. Standard protocol involves directly releasing the report to the public. Instead, the report to be released tomorrow will be “similar” (edited?) to the one currently in the hands of the ICAO.
Malaysia, like Poland, has a seat on the ICAO council. Planes have been sent by NATO to Poland to deal with the conflict in the Ukraine. The Ukraine has an embassy in Malaysia. Just saying.
With the mind-boggling budget of AUD60 million to be spent on the services of “highly specialised commercial contractors”, you’d think some cash could be diverted to the Bay of Bengal, perhaps for trawlers to sink some lines and hook onto whatever chunk of metal is there.
” you’d think some cash could be diverted to the Bay of Bengal, perhaps for trawlers to sink some lines and hook onto whatever chunk of metal is there.”
Imagine their embarrassment, Q.
http://vandaair.com/2014/04/30/mh370-australian-companies-findings-ignored/
“The technology the company uses was originally created to search for nuclear, biological and chemical weaponry under the ocean or beneath the earth in bunkers, said David Pope, the company’s director.”
Ah, yes, the “mangosteens” in the cargo hold.
Another thing I have not read elsewhere:
“The company reportedly has accredited representatives from the US National Transportation Safety Board, Britain’s Air Accidents Investigation Branch and China’s Aircraft Accident Investigation Department, among other agencies.”
And to repeat, from: http://vandaair.com/2014/04/29/mh370-found-in-the-bay-of-bengal/:
“According to company spokesperson David Pope, “The technology that we use was originally designed to find nuclear warheads, submarines. Our team in the Ukraine decided we should try and help.”
Is the problem here that the Ukrainian university in Sevastopol which developed the technology used by GeoResonance is now under Russian control? Why would a team currently under the control of Russia want MH370 found, but the international team allegedly searching for MH370 would not? Is there something about that plane and its cargo that has international implications for the current political crisis in the Ukraine?
” Is there something about that plane and its cargo that has international implications for the current political crisis in the Ukraine?”
I’ve often wondered, Q, with all eyes on the Ukraine up until the event (mH 370) they were suddenly and obsessively changed to the search. Too many eyes on doings is not good for some.
Now if Putin also had this thought, he is mischievous enough (and certainly intelligent) to give Western influenced powers a deserved black-eye.
Bangladesh is investigating GeoResonance’s data:
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2014/04/30/navy-scouring-bay-of-bengal-again-for-mh370-after-georesonance-claim
Sink a line and trawl for it.
On the earlier search in the Bay of Bengal:
http://newagebd.com/detail.php?date=2014-03-15&nid=86757#.U2ESOFfDVo0
This does not lie within 190 km of Bangladesh, but the Andaman and Nicobar Islands have come up before in the story of MH370:
http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-others/andaman-and-nicobar-islands-a-potential-terror-hub-home-ministry/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2014/03/14/an-introduction-to-the-andaman-and-nicobar-islands-a-remote-indian-archipelago-now-part-of-the-hunt-for-mh370/
A map of the Indian search area is at the second link. Compare to:
http://newagebd.com/newspic/eb9ba0d6d9e910b3016f62c1ec5b85ec20140315.jpg
It’s helpful to compare the depth chart to the satellite image of the area from Google maps.
Nautical miles, or land miles, one reader asks:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2014/03/14/an-introduction-to-the-andaman-and-nicobar-islands-a-remote-indian-archipelago-now-part-of-the-hunt-for-mh370/