I had fairly well concluded that the most likely cause was a fire disrupting the electrical and control systems, when CNN now say the sharp left turn was pre-programmed 12 minutes before sign off from Malaysian Air Traffic control, which was followed fairly quickly by that left turn.
CNN claim to have this from an US official, from data sent back before the reporting systems went off. It is hard to know what to make of it: obviously there are large economic interests that much prefer blame to lie with the pilots rather than the aircraft. But if it is true then the move was not a response to an emergency. (CNN went on to say the pilot could have programmed in the course change as a contingency in case of an emergency. That made no sense to me at all – does it to anyone else?)
I still find it extremely unlikely that the plane landed or crashed on land I cannot believe it could evade military detection as it flew over a highly militarized region. Somewhere there is debris on the ocean. There have been previous pilot suicides that took the plane with them; but the long detour first seems very strange and I do not believe is precedented. However if the CNN information on pre-programming is correct, and given it was the co-pilot who signed off to air traffic control, it is hard to look beyond the pilots as those responsible for whatever did happen. In fact, on consideration, the most improbable thing is that information CNN are reporting from the US official.
http://www.airtrafficmanagement.net/2014/05/analysis-mh370-preliminary-report/#comments
“Steve Winter says:
May 6, 2014 at 11:58 am
Don –
Yes, I have been following the discussion on Duncan Steel’s web-site regularly (though not right before writing this article). I think this highlights an issue regarding the “satellite ping” investigation: by refusing to release this information, the investigators are missing an opportunity to engage the tremendous resources of a wider community. This lack of transparency extends to the question of what type of peer review is the analysis being subject to, to ensure its correctness. I can only guess that this opacity is for proprietary reasons. However, given the technical complexity of the analysis, it seems there is plenty of opportunity for error.
I do think the media should push for release of the analysis so that we can be confident of its correctness.”
The link referred to in the comment:
http://www.duncansteel.com/
More discombobulation:
http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/657971-missing-plane-found-nope-but-ships-hunting-malaysia-airlines-flight-mh-370-in-bay-of-bengal/
“An Australian company says it received a tip that the plane might be found in the area.”
Going back here:
http://georesonance.com/20140504%20Press%20Release.pdf
“Our team of experts hopes the scouring of the Bay of Bengal is (or will be) limited to the deployment of only one sonar-equipped vessel capable of dealing with silt, within the reported area, which is only 500 square metres in size.”
About sonar and the search for 9M-MRO:
http://guardianlv.com/2014/04/mh370-requires-technologies-beyond-military-capacities-to-continue-search/
Who could have given GeoResonance the tip that restarted the search for 9N-MRO in the Bay of Bengal, if indeed that is true? With the company’s proclaimed ties to a university in Sevastopol, now a region under Russian command, is that the logical assumption?
“Nevertheless, Malaysia’s Acting Transport Minister said,“But, I just want to stress that by doing that, we are distracting ourselves from the main search.
“If we went there and the result from the search was negative, who is going to be responsible for that loss of time? Having more vessels out there (Bay of Bengal) will affect the search in the (current) area,” he added.
Sapura Kencana Petroleum Well Services’s subsidary, Total Marine Technology (TMT) had earlier gave a glimpse of what the company’s Typhoon Remotely Operated Vehicle (ROV) could offer to the search operation. (here)
Nevertheless, three Bangladeshi navy ships have begun searching the Bay of Bengal for traces of the missing aircraft, but have yet to find anything, a Bangladeshi commander said on May 2.”
https://malaysiaflyingherald.wordpress.com/2014/05/05/rememberingmh370-sapura-kencana-might-assists-the-search/
“GeoResonance commenced the search before the official Search and Rescue operation moved to the Southern Indian Ocean.
“The approximate location was passed onto Malaysian Airlines and the Malaysian and Chinese Embassies in Canberra, Australia, on March 31, 2014….These details were
also passed onto the Australian authorities (JACC) in Perth on April 4, 2014….The final 23 page report including the precise location of the wreckage was passed onto Malaysian Airlines, Malaysian High Commission in Canberra, Chinese Embassy in Canberra, and the Australian authorities (JACC) on April 15, 2014.”
From: http://www.georesonance.com/20140429%20Press%20Release.pdf
“Friday 21 March 2014 18.46 GMT”
From: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/21/mh370-search-for-missing-plane-resumes-at-daybreak-live
“Crimean status referendum, 2014 was a referendum on the status of Crimea held on March 16, 2014, by the legislature of Autonomous Republic of Crimea as well as by the local government of Sevastopol, both subdivisions of Ukraine at the time. The referendum asked the people of Crimea whether they wanted to join Russia as a federal subject, or if they wanted to restore the 1992 Crimean constitution and Crimea’s status as a part of Ukraine.”
From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_status_referendum,_2014
I’ve finally made sense of what “distraction” means. The Bay of Bengal search is not taking resources away from anything. The real “distraction” seems to be that the data used to determine the current search area is now under review, and its accuracy in question. The Australian leader of the search team has withdrawn from his earlier claims of infallibility of that data, and now says it’s “sensible” to review it. Maybe GeoResonance was behind that, or maybe not. We’ll have to wait and see what happens next.
Best to admit to some degree of consternation before being proven 100 per cent wrong. That would be humiliating.
Point of clarification. The referendum in Crimea took place on March 16, 2014. The GeoResonance search took place before the international search for MH370 moved to the Southern Indian Ocean. It’s hard to say if GeoResonance began its search before or after the Crimean referendum, but this is critical information. If GeoResonance got a tip from someone, say the university from which it got its technology, it is very important to know whether or not the information obtained was received from Sevastopol while it was still under the control of the pro-U.S. Ukrainian government, or Russia. It’s all a big “if”.
Further clarification:
“Australian Deputy Prime Minister Warren Truss said on Friday objects spotted on satellite images that sparked an international hunt in the remote southern Indian Ocean for Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 may have sunk, the Reuters reported.
The satellite images were taken on March 16.”
From: http://zeenews.india.com/news/world/live-no-trace-of-suspected-debris-of-missing-malaysia-airlines-plane-yet_919304.html
March 16, 2014 was the day of the referendum in Crimea.
“The survey commenced on March 12, 2014, prior to the search moving to the Southern
Indian Ocean. The study concluded on April 7, 2014.”
From: http://www.georesonance.com/20140501%20Press%20Release.pdf
Did GeoResonance get a tip at some point during this time period (as alleged in one news report), and if so, who provided the information, and when exactly did this tip come in?
Malaysian “Prelim”….
No mention of altitudes attained.
Now you’d think that was rather relevant.
1. It did not alter altitude.
2. It did alter altitude.
Or 3. “lets not say”. (No idea why).
A note.
Regs dictate prelim reports are prepared with 30days.
This report WAS prepared within that timescale. (but not released).
Another first !
Q; A lot of ‘what ifs’ wrt Putin. But he may suspect, as I, that MH 370 was possibly intended as a diversion from Media focus on the Ukraine. The effort appears futile, but it is interesting the official searchers are beginning to question the data.
Follow the money, as the famous quote universally suggests.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-06/and-first-thing-ukraine-will-buy-imf-money
It would be a scandal of epic proportions if we found out, decades down the road, that decision to focus on the Southern Indian Ocean in the search for MH370 was based on a single satellite image, taken on March 16, 2014. The scandal would be even bigger if the story of satellite pings and arcs was concocted to fit the selected area.
As we know, nothing relevant to MH370 was found.
Imaginery GeoResonance tip line: “They’re using a single satellite image from March 16.”
Why is MH 370 a “diversion from Media focus on the Ukraine” !?!?
Who cares ?
I say let the Ukraine go “free”….and then buy their gas from America.
They could of course buy their gas with their own money from Russia.
But they haven;t got any money.
Maybe they can “loan some” from Europe !!!!
The Ukraine should “grow up”.
They have been a “dead” nation for years…and support by Russian money.
It’s like finding a p*ssed tramp who’s been fed beer for years by a neighbour.
Now the tramp feels he doesn’t need the neighbour anymore.
The drunken bum wants another friend !
So, you’re saying your ox hasn’t been gored, so what’s all the fuss, James?
A question Ben
Before the “good ole” European Union “get involved” in the Ukraine…
will they attack Egypt ?
I mean we have had a revolution that got rid off a dictator.
An American supported dictator at that.
And then there were elections.
And those democratic election came up with a party set to lead the country.
That’s what the “people” voted for.
YET the Muslim Brotherhood, a legally elected party were “removed” from power.
AND NOTHING WAS SAID !!!!!
Before “we” sort out the Ukraine. We should start “elsewhere”.
And “we” may as well look at Palestine.
Seems to me that the UN has passed resolution after resolution stating clearly that “another country” is act illegally in that part of the world.
AND NOTHING WAS SAID.
So lets get “balls deep” in the Ukraine !
What a great idea.
“your ox hasn’t been gored” !
Rolls eyes ! An American I see. What sense will there be.
“So lets get “balls deep” in the Ukraine !
What a great idea.”
Like everything else, it’s about strategic aims; economic, military etc. The rest of the fawfaw about human rights and saving starving masses, is just window-dressing.
Follow the money and power. If you are interested in the triangulations, you might want to think Syria/Iran/Tartus/sevastapol and connect the dots.
‘an american’ short term memory loss, james?
March 16 for the satellite image. March 16 for the Crimean referendum. Whatever does it mean, if anything? Random or not? We’ll see.
The fact is, that the data used to determine the search area is being reviewed.
No recollection Ben. Should I have ?
The Crimea ? I bet you looked at a map as you didn’t know where it was.
Brill documentary
It’s Chinese. But with a voice over.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hG9K5gU4Y18
James; We have a war on everything; poverty,drugs, terrorism etc.
Why isn’t there a war on Homelessness?
Because there’s no money to be made on it.
Returning to an old slip-up that was caught:
http://blogs.crikey.com.au/planetalking/2014/03/12/malaysia-mislead-search-allies-over-mh370-crash-search/
http://wikimapia.org/10474995/Pulau-Perak-Silver-Island
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulau_Perak
http://sea-globe.com/public-enemies-gangs-crime-malaysia/
http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2013/04/03/anwar-to-contest-in-perak/
Taking it all back, once the cat is out of the bag?
http://english.astroawani.com/news/show/mh370-rmaf-chief-denies-airline-signal-was-detected-near-pulau-perak-31695
You can’t have a war on “terrorism”.
That’s a “feeling”. You feel “terrorised”.
More “bullshit” put about by the media and the tin hats.
Why don’t we have a war on “homelessness”.
I’ll tell you why.
It’s the same reason “breast cancer deaths” makes headlines and not “death caused by asthma”. It’s not all “money”. It’s “impact”.
Deaths from “flooding” always make the news.
When do people that drown on swimming pools make the news ?
Edit…
“drown in swimming pools”, not on them ! Speed typing on an ipad. Never good.
http://matei.org/ithink/2014/03/17/small-debris-field-in-malacca-strait-near-island-pulau-perak-purportedly-associated-with-mh370-discussed-on-tomnod-twitter-and-reddit/
Another one of the “sharks” in the sea.
James; Just curious. Voting yes, or no on the referendum?
The RMAF is familiar with that location:
http://www.nst.com.my/latest/rmaf-nuri-copter-crashes-in-pulau-perak-1.443418
http://cyber-captain.blogspot.ca/2010/04/diving-pulau-perak.html
“On top of the Island is a small Malaysian military base.”