I had fairly well concluded that the most likely cause was a fire disrupting the electrical and control systems, when CNN now say the sharp left turn was pre-programmed 12 minutes before sign off from Malaysian Air Traffic control, which was followed fairly quickly by that left turn.
CNN claim to have this from an US official, from data sent back before the reporting systems went off. It is hard to know what to make of it: obviously there are large economic interests that much prefer blame to lie with the pilots rather than the aircraft. But if it is true then the move was not a response to an emergency. (CNN went on to say the pilot could have programmed in the course change as a contingency in case of an emergency. That made no sense to me at all – does it to anyone else?)
I still find it extremely unlikely that the plane landed or crashed on land I cannot believe it could evade military detection as it flew over a highly militarized region. Somewhere there is debris on the ocean. There have been previous pilot suicides that took the plane with them; but the long detour first seems very strange and I do not believe is precedented. However if the CNN information on pre-programming is correct, and given it was the co-pilot who signed off to air traffic control, it is hard to look beyond the pilots as those responsible for whatever did happen. In fact, on consideration, the most improbable thing is that information CNN are reporting from the US official.
To what ?
The U.K. in Europe ?
It is difficult for me as….
1. I am not registered to vote in the U.K. as I don’t live there.
2. I have a house in a “mainland European city” where I reside.
3. I work in a Middle East country.
But… the “U.K. in or out” is a side issue. It’s just more “crap”.
Its not “governments” it’s people.
People talk of “mind control” and “awakening people”
There isn’t any “mind control”, the people are already “controlled”.
They do it all by themselves.
They have done for thousands of years. It’s a “blue print”.
YES it is exploited. But they “like” being exploited. It’s what they do.
I thought you said you lived in Scotland. My mistake.
The international team needs to go back to the beginning, to stories like this one:
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Asia-Pacific/2014/0312/Malaysia-Airlines-Flight-370-Why-the-confusion-about-the-flight-path-video
Malaysia hasn’t had to pay for the search, so perhaps they have some explaining to do to those who are footing the bill.
Who is responsible for creating and continuing the “distraction” in this case?
Okay
Born in the “madness” that was Northern Ireland.
Learnt early on how crazy people can be.
And the “bollocks” they (which ever side) believe.
Hence…. I got out.
Although I have heard every “rational” argument (from all sides) that there is/was.
To me…it’s “bollocks”.
Left ’em to it years ago. Will never return.
People ask “where are you from”.
I say “From is not important. Where I am going to is more important”.
Read/watch Edward Bernays. Now there’s a guy that knew how daft people were/are.
The governments of the day employed him.
People already did what they did. He would just “use” what they did naturally.
Tom Clancy is always the answer, whenever there is intrigue:
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/551241/20140506/mh370-afghanistan-taliban.htm#.U2lIFyjDVo0
“Pieczenik alleged that on March 2014, these 8 scientists and the 6 crates went to Malaysia where they kept the cargo in the Embassy under diplomatic protection. To safely transport the cargo, they had it via a civilian aircraft – MH370 – thinking Americans will not likely hijack a civilian flight.”
Fascinating scenario, but will we ever know? They have contingency plans for many situations presaged by think-tanks using ‘brain-storming’ some ideas of which, seem preposterous until the shoe drops, Q
You have a load of psychopaths that “climb” to the top.
To name but a few…..
Tony Blair
Idi Amin
George Bush
Saddam Hussein
Robert Mugabe
Slobodan Milosevic
Adolf Hitler
All different in their “ideology”
Guess what. They ALL controlled their “people”.
That’s odd isn’t it.
How was that so ?
The “people” wanted to be controlled.
It’s in the peoples nature. It’s their “blue print”.
These Psychos are “reptiles”.
They don’t come from “UFO’s”
There isn’t even a “big club” wherein they all “get together and plan”.
You just get “a load of nutters that are “born, bred or developed” and that’s it.
Me… I opted out before it became “fashionable”.
Whatever happened. Malaysian Airlines don’t want it found.
Their (Malaysian) “prelim reort” is (if anything) scant.
They may think that a pilot that commits mass murder to much.
OR a hijack for “anti government” reasons way out of order.
But O’Barmy got a visit.
And he’s got his foot in the door in South East Asia.
“Disappearing airline”:
http://gulfnews.com/business/aviation/malaysian-government-backs-away-from-malaysia-airlines-1.1329041
“The missing flight has drastically impacted Malaysia’s tourism industry and also soured relations with China, a major source market but also where a majority of MH370 passengers were from.
Aziz said there has been a 30 per cent in drop off in tourism numbers from China and since MH370 went missing there have been “many cancellations” and “no new bookings for the rest of the year” on Malaysia Airlines services.”
India moves to real-time tracking for cargo and passenger planes:
http://indianexpress.com/article/business/companies/in-wake-of-malaysia-airlines-mh370-tragedy-india-sets-new-aircraft-tracking-rules/
MH370: The pings were not from the black box – William Meacham
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/sideviews/article/mh370-the-pings-were-not-from-the-black-box-william-meacham
Sevastopol news:
http://news.yahoo.com/putin-visit-crimea-may-9-military-parade-094458784.html
No news on the Bay of Bengal search for MH370, nor on the kind of technology being used by the Bangladesh navy.
Is the Bangladesh navy really capable of conducting a technical search for MH370? They seem to spend their time staking claim to sandbars and fishing lines.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/bangladesh/navy.htm
Even two destroyers are expensive for a small and poor country to maintain, Q. They must show some practicality by having civilian duties, in the absence of military need.
I know they have the latest technology:
http://www.nautelnav.com/press-releases/nautel-expands-sonar-initiative-with-c-tech-acquisition/
I know they have ships, and do diving and salvage:
http://www.defensemedianetwork.com/stories/former-coast-guard-cutter-jarvis-transferred-to-growing-bangladesh-navy/
I hope they are trained to do the kind of work that is involved with GeoResonance’s findings in the Bay of Bengal.
http://www.bangladeshnavy.org/smwt.html
http://www.bangladeshnavy.org/un.html
Surely the search for MH370 will help them hone their skills, and is not just a distraction from their duties as sandbar guards and fishing net retrievers.
The SWADS have a fan club on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/nirvik.bn
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Warfare_Diving_And_Salvage
Wiki says they model themselves after the U.S. Navy Seals. In fact, the U.S. Navy and government were instrumental in creating and training the special ops unit.
More on the $1B of weapons purchased by Bangladesh from Russia:
http://www.security-risks.com/security-trends-south-asia/bangladesh/bangladesh-%E2%80%93-arming-without-aiming-1808.html
“In the years to come Bangladesh is no doubt planning to be a consequential power in the Bay of Bengal region with acquisition of Russian and Chinese equipment and joint exercises with the US Navy.”
Larry King’s summary of all that we currently know about MH370/9M-MRO:
“It made a left turn.”
From: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/celebrity-news/the-a-list/larry-king-slams-cnn-for-coverage-of-mh370/article18506636/
Just listened and read the “radio transcript/recording”.
If anyone has it, have a listen. Let me know what you think.
The pilot handling the radio when on the ground ISN’T the pilot handling the radio after they takeoff.
Normally you assign who is “PF” (Pilot Flying) and “PNF” (Pilot Not Flying). PF flys the flight. PNF manages the flight (including comms).
All ground comms, the pilot on the radio says “Malaysian Three Seven Zero”. After the takeoff the pilot calls his flight as “Malaysian Err Three Seven Zero”
I have no idea what the MAS policy is. But I find that strange.
The “second pilot” calls shortly after takeoff. He will be (should be) the PNF. Therefore “not flying”.
I’ll explain more clearly if required. Have a listen.
This article brings up some valid points:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/malaysia-airlines-mh370-search-enters-new-phase-with-new-hope-1.2634728
They were slow to react to the missing plane. Mary Schiavo says they don’t have a good handle on where the plane is, and could look in many other locations. And the Malaysian government is indeed backing away from the airline (see previous link). Funding to continue the search may dry up. And that is exactly what some speculate is the desired outcome by various parties in all this.
@James: I found this analysis of the voice recording the most helpful:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-03/voice-recording-missing-flight-mh370-was-edited
There are smoking guns. Sloppy work. There is always a slip-up in any coverup. The matter is finding it.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2617647/British-marine-archaeologist-claims-flight-MH370-3-000-miles-search-zone-spotting-debris-painted-colours-Malaysia-Airlines.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2614932/U-S-pilot-believes-hes-wreckage-missing-Malaysia-flight-searching-satellite-images.html
Neither of the maps for these two stories are to scale. Neither story provides coordinates. However, both appear to be in the same general direction. They are certainly not anywhere near the international search team.
I had posted about Akers before, but photos are available now. I believe that investigators must take into account eyewitness reports, and investigate them properly. Eyewitnesses are interviewed in air accident investigations, but there is no indication that this rather unusual investigation has taken their interviews with the media seriously, nor do we know for sure if the eyewitnesses have be re-interviewed by representatives of the international search team. We do know that some portions of this investigation were dealt with by the Malaysian police. Case in point: the “interviews” of non-existent mangosteen pickers in Muar.
Have a lot of planes have been going down without anyone noticing, or what’s really up? At the very least, these claims should be investigated instead of being brushed off with the arrogance that the international search team has demonstrated until very recently. Arrogance will not find this plane.
http://www.azzuri.org/?p=493
Date found here:
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-179635290.html
“IRKUT Corp of Russia has pledged to invest US$5 billion (RM16.5 billion) to establish a full-fledged and diversified original equipment manufacturing facility in Sungkai, Perak, soon.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_of_the_Royal_Malaysian_Air_Force
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_warfare_aircraft
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radar_jamming_and_deception
It is interesting that some eyewitnesses reported that the plane had flown over Perak, and the island of Pulau Perak.
Previously posted: http://blogs.crikey.com.au/planetalking/2014/03/11/mh370-did-authorities-visit-crash-site-today/
Good luck trying to find this audio report about bodies found at Pulau Perak. They’re “not available” now.
http://www.reddit.com/r/MH370/related/2094jq/audio_from_rescue_worker_bodies_found_atnear/
BTW, comments on the reddit links are still visible.
http://www.kinibiz.com/story/tigertalk/72546/the-perils-of-leasing-jet-fighters.html
For background.
“Leasing commercial airlines, yes, but fighter jets? Tiger scratches his head in puzzlement. Commercial aircraft are much safer for one. What happens when a fighter crashes? What happens when there is war? Will anyone even insure it? How does a lease operate without insurance? The mind boggles!”
What if Malaysia intercepted MH370 with a leased fighter jet, which went down, and is now in insurance limbo? Pure speculation.
Someone asked a while back for the main theories about MH370. I think these can be divided into two broad categories:
1. It was an accident caused by some sort of mechanical failure, and the Malaysian government is being 100 per cent honest and truthful.
2. There was interference from outside the plane. The Malaysian government is being deceitful for a reason. It is hard to find any truth in what they have said so far.
The news has turned to other things now:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/474736/Putin-tests-nuclear-force-as-pro-Moscow-rebels-charge-ahead-with-referendum
Which of these dots is not like the others?
http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/survey-finds-77-per-cent-of-aussies-dont-believe-mh370-search-teams-are-looking-in-the-right-area/story-fnizu68q-1226910365205
Perhaps they should have used surveys of popular opinion before deciding on the southernmost search area.
The search will be called off soon: that is my prediction, and the people who answered the survey will be blamed (“People want a say in how their money is being spent, yada, yada. There are world crises. We can’t allocate precious resources to a futile search when more important things are happening in the world, etc.”) That will be the end of MH370, and all hope of learning whatever really happened.
Lease a fighter jet !
They’ll be leasing armies next.
Oh I forgot, they already do “lease” armies.
Still trying to get my head around Malaysian policy on PF/PNF.
Both pilots using the radio is unusual.
MAS said that “through analysis” (airline pilots that knew the captain and listened to the tape) they established that the last voice of heard on the recording was that of the captain.
If the “speech pattern” and “speaking habits” (“Malaysian Three Seven Zero” and “Malaysian Erm Three Seven Zero”) show that BOTH were using the radio, then why was that ? On the runway about to take off is a bit late to decide who is to fly the sector.