The number of people still prepared to defend the Iraq War in public is tiny. The interesting thing is the very strong correlation between those people, and those prepared to pretend to give credence to the farcical sexual allegations about Julian Assange. Zoe Williams Guardian piece about what a jolly good chap Blair is I find breathtaking. War crimes like Blair’s result in terrible anguish for millions. I am prepared for purposes of argument to believe that Williams’ anguish for female victims of crime is genuine; why she can’t extend that to the tens of thousands of women who were raped because of Blair’s Iraq War, or had the still worse agony of seeing their children killed and mutilated I don’t know. Nick Cohen is just very, very sad. I just hold up these two in the hope that those deceived by feminist political correctness into following their lead against Assange will see to what they are subscribing.
Rather a side issue, but even if we accept Zoe Williams view that dead Iraqi children don’t matter, she appears not to have noticed that Blair introduced tuition fees, academies, kick-started NHS privatization, allowed the banksters’ bonanza leading to worldwide economic crash and oversaw the greatest widening of the gap between rich and poor in British history.
“Stalin was definitely a baddie, but who funded him.
Who made it all possible”
The natural resources of Russia extracted by slave labour and the export sales of grain stolen from the victims of the Holodomir are two sources that come to mind – but I suppose that you attribute it all to his Jewish relatives or some other anti- semitic rubbish – don’t worry Mr Goss has provided the links many times.
John Goss
Come on hurry up – don’t play your usual game of making wild assertions and then thinking they are valid because you ask someone else to prove the opposite. Your claim – you back it up or it is garbage. What is stated without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
An O/T interview with Lothar de Maiziere on the extend of US spying and what can be done to understand it fully.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/german-interior-minister-warns-us-spying-has-no-boundaries-a-963179.html
There is also an article on the heartbleed virus, cursating for the last two years before being detected, but its in German and I can’t be arsed.
Apparently a german wrote the code thjat could devastate two thirds of the internet and reveal vital personal data.
http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/web/heartbleed-programmierer-deutscher-schrieb-den-fehlerhaften-code-a-963774.html
Pinochet was a baddie as well, and we know who funded that mass-murderer.
Of course, any who point this out are bigoted toward Chileans, and generals and mass-murderers.
Habby
“My sincere apologies to you, but my sources are confidential and my lips must therefore remain sealed.”
I see. Clueless as ever.
Why do you think the US is encircling Russia and China with anti-missile shields?
You do realise that the only way out for the US and a soft landing for its dollar is that the Russians and Chinese meekly submit to a new banking order.
You obviously think that’s very very likely.
We’re back to blinky blinky who blinks first.
Only difference this time is they’ve killed all the Kennedys.
Have you any idea just how many systems accidents there have been with nukes, and that the only reason we’re still here is that Russian humans assumed an error.
Are they really likely to still assume an error with all the first-strike tension the American teenagers are creating.
“John Goss
So how many were killed by Stalin – you made the claim that it was less than those killed by Blair so now support it – I am interested in your sources for your claim!”
How many what? Dogs? Men? Women? Germans? Look up how many children Stalin killed yourself. Not as many as Blair I will wager.
ESLO
Are you claiming that western bankers did not support Stalin?
Why is this such a problem for you.
The bankers wanted rid of the Tsar because he wouldn’t join their banking system.
Same as now.
“What is stated without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.”
I gave you two links concerning figures for Blair. You have not refuted them. You just tried to change the argument, which was about children Blair killed, not people. Stalin’s purges were against adults and those who he thought posed a threat. Of course there was the siege (Leningrad) during the war in which countless numbers died of starvation and cold. Are you counting them?
Where are your figures?
OT
‘Yes. No. Of course’ epitomises BBC’s dire response to cumulative effects of Birtist Thatcherism. Highly recommended for devastating no-joke logo joke three-quarters of the way through: http://tinyurl.com/nh5e36o
Macky
Your entire post was hilarious, but what really almost made me fall off my chair was the following modest gem :
“Actually the whole thread it worth revisiting, as it illustrates how you had nothing to offer when I actually decided to fully engage with you on something,..”
Macky, you have never engaged with me, fully or otherwise. You have however been floored by me on several occasions.
Whereas I have sometimes likened you to a broken-down old pug, struggling up from the canvas for yet another pasting, I think out friend Dreoilin said it better when she opined : “Macky is not the sharpest blade in the drawer”.
In fact, more of a (wooden) spoon.
OT
Outside UK, one of simplest ways of getting access to BBC iPlayer (see above) is via:
“On February 25th, Iraq’s Cabinet approved a draft law lowering the age of legal marriage for females to nine years old.”
It should be pointed ot that the word “marriage” doesn’t mean just the same thing in Muslim countries as it does in Britain. Just because two people are married it does not mean they are going to sleep together, or even live together. It’s a contract, the man agrees to support his wife/wives. In countries where there are many poor, where women are often uneducated and unable to support themselves, where parents are often unable to support their families to adulthood, it can be a good thing as well as bad.
Thanks to Bush and Blair I expect there are many orphan young girls in Iraq right now, this law offers them a life, financial independence, rights. Many rich men would marry them as a form of charity, not to have sex with them.
*tries again*
Outside UK, one of simplest ways of getting access to BBC iPlayer (see above) is via: https://www.tunnelbear.com
“Stalin’s purges were against adults and those who he thought posed a threat.”
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Radio Moscow’s on the air again, I see.
With the Kremlin balls (sorry, I meant bells) in the background.
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“Life had become grim, life has become bloodier” (J. Stalin, ca. 1938)
Your posts there Macky illustrate the point well that H’a avatar then was different to the one on these recent threads. Different location? Different IP address? Different persona altogether?
Keep going. I can’t bothered with his continual nit picking, just like a monkey with a low pack rating who can only rise to a higher position by grooming the coats of the more dominant ones in the troupe thus providing a useful service. Or so he thinks.
http://lucygoes.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/img_6986.jpg?w=625&h=416
Nevermind
In my mind’s eye I can see Angela Merkel pointing her right forefinger to her lips as pretty as pie, while protesting about NSA bugging of her phone.
Fred
That was an interesting post, thank you.
“Many rich men would marry them as a form of charity, not to have sex with them.”
Marriage is not adoption. A child cannot understand it implications. If a rich person wanted to provide for an orphan all well and good. But that can be done at a distance. The child has no need to be in the company of the benefactor. There is no excuse for marriage to a child.
Mary
“Your posts there Macky illustrate the point well that H’a avatar then was different to the one on these recent threads. Different location? Different IP address? Different persona altogether?”
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Can’t get your head round the simple idea that I am, by myself, more than a match for the while bunch of you, eh?
BTW you’re posting a lot – are you trying to hit the top of page 2?
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La vita è bella, life is good! Exterminate nits and fleas.
ESLO
Come on hurry up.
Mr Goss re marriage to children :
Could we therefore please hear you condemn this aspect of Iranian law as well?
Someone wrote earlier that Sajid Javid MP was not a practising Muslim. That would be in order to gain political credibilty to gain high office, not a matter of personal conviction. Bear in mind the MI5 and mosque bug your house to see what you are really doing in the privacy of your own home. So you would have to be really not praying at home to satisfy them.
The sacrifices you have to make for Islam!
@Habbabkuk,
Your self-inflating delusions are apparent to all, whetever you really believe in them or not, doesn’t really matter; the reason why you squat here is because there is no other Blog that would tolerate you making a mockery like you do, so keep thanking your lucky star that Craig tolerates you because he enjoy “Lefties” being baited, and for sure, you cetainly have nothing else to contribute here.
Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !
10 Apr, 2014 – 12:51 pm
“Women can be as ruthless as men, as to why, how and for what reasons is open to debate.”
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“…You shouldn’t put any category or group on a pedestal, you know!”
I quite agree Habbabkuk, including a race or tribe.
“Marriage is not adoption. A child cannot understand it implications. If a rich person wanted to provide for an orphan all well and good. But that can be done at a distance. The child has no need to be in the company of the benefactor. There is no excuse for marriage to a child.”
In Britain maybe, where the custom is for two soul mates to fall in love and spend the rest of their lives together. That isn’t what marriage means in Muslim countries.
There is no necessity for the bride and groom to live together, the bride doesn’t even have to attend the wedding if she doesn’t want to.
Tony F12 Hersh report on Erdogan’s involvement in Syria.
Turkey is behaving like Mrs Thatcher in relation to the former Yugoslavia, as if it was an independent nation. Neither Turkey nor the UK are any no longer independent nations. They are wholly-owned/ controlled assets of ZioBanking. There is no such thing as Erdogan wanting to influence the war in Syria. There is only what Israel tells Turkey to do. Destroy Syria completely like Iraq.
Erdogan’s attraction is is releasing his country from the cruel shackles of Attaturk, by which Islam has been tortured for nearly 100 years. His opponent, trained in the US like Mursi of Egypt, though not of the same sect of Islam, has the local Turkish Sufi camouflage in order to deceive the Turkish Muslims. The Turks will not be deceived by a US trained Islamic leader. If Fethullah is put in the Turkish military will kick him out again, same as Mursi.
Hersh portrays Erdogan as a warmonger. He is not. His currency is very vulnerable to external forces and he needs regional allies to counter Israeli bullying, same as we do in the UK. He has done the bare minimum to comply with Israel’s intent to destroy all of its own immediate neighbours. Israel, not Turkey is the elephant in the room.
conjunction 10 Apr, 2014 – 3:53 pm
I can’t supply the proof you want. The world I believe in doesn’t readily supply proof of its own existence 🙂 I believe it can be reliably inferred, though:
Why is it that no African country, even with vast natural resources at its disposal, has grown rich and powerful in its own right. Why is it that the more resources an African country has, the poorer its people? Why is it that, other than a couple of white controlled enclaves, Africa entirely missed out on the progress of the 20th century.
Africa is comprehensively exploited by powerful Western interests. They are able to accrue vast power and riches by keeping Africans poor and powerless. If wages rose, their profits would fall. If Africans took control of their raw resources, their profits would fall. The optimum strategy is to keep all Africa poor and disorganised. If even one African country gained control of its own destiny, it would set an example which would eventually derail the gravy train.
This has been the status quo for a couple of centuries. Why hasn’t it changed? People don’t endure subjugation without protest. Aren’t Africans are as clever and ambitious as any other people? A state of affairs like this has to be managed – revolutions crushed, honest leaders dealt with, conflicts created, corruption encouraged, puppet leaders installed and maintained. All this is enforced through the influence and ultimately the military might of Western governments.
Those people at the top are ruthless, but we ordinary Western taxpayers are not. The majority of us would baulk at our money being used to create such suffering, so we cannot be allowed to know the true state of affairs. We are kept in the dark, and our governments are manipulated, by the same means – the control of information through the mainstream media. The MSM is owned by those same powerful ruthless people and it protects and promotes their interests in Africa and elsewhere by portraying an illusion and suppressing the truth. The illusion is that native African progress is constantly stymied by corruption and conflict, that Africans are inherently unable to look after their own affairs. The truth is that such a notion is nonsense. Day in and day out, we are fed stories and pictures which reinforce the illusion, whilst those which would break it are filtered out. And decade after decade, those conscienceless puppet-masters plunder a continent and perpetuate suffering, protected and promoted by their strictly controlled media.
Then along comes a hero. He organises concerts which raise millions for famine relief. He makes us all feel we can do something to help. He becomes a champion of the starving millions. He button-holes Prime ministers and Presidents and shames them into promising increased aid. He even upstages a G8 meeting. The media love him. His face fills the front pages, news bulletins lead on his opinions, TV companies clear their schedules to broadcast his events, the loveable rogue is even allowed to swear on TV. From the Sun to the Telegraph, he is known as ‘Saint Bob’…….
….. But wait a minute …. haven’t we just seen that with respect to Africa, the media’s main job is to maintain the status quo? For generations it’s been used to maintain Africa’s deprivation, and now here it is publicising someone who wants to change that? The defender of the exploiters is now defending the exploited?
And that’s basically it. That’s where it doesn’t stack up. Whatever tinkering with the system results from Geldof’s self-aggrandising tinkering, it isn’t intended to make any significant difference. Whether it’s designed to camouflage the lack of real assistance, or channel increased funds to puppet leaders, or whatever, it is being orchestrated by the mainstream media, and they only do their masters’ bidding, and after two centuries of handing out misery, I don’t believe the masters just got charitable.
And Geldof? Well, he definitely isn’t as clever as he thinks he is, but neither could he possibly be so stupid or so ignorant that he could be unaware of his role in this stage-managed charade. He colludes with the powerful to hide the truth of the tragedy of Africa – that the one and only reason for the never-ending misery and hopelessness of that continent is that we, the West, work hard to keep it so.
Geldof is a liar and a fraud.
A Node
He probably isn’t, and it is very unpleasant of you to attack him about anything at this particular moment of time. Likely only apparent liars and frauds get airspace in the media in this day and age. The fact that he has lost a 25 year old daughter is heartbreaking for him and I feel for him.
Mods
Any chance of removing this cross avatar. Easter is an especially annoying piece of pagan brainwashing without being given idolatrous logos as well.
Thanks in anticipation.
Heh; I thought it looked more like a maze, but like most interpretations, it’s about one’s perception. I can understand the objection, since the instrument of the prophet’s death seems more of an obscenity, than a totem.