Freedom Cheaper than Iraq War 764


A particularly mendacious lie by Danny Alexander puts the institutional start-up costs of Scottish Independence at £1.5 billion.  That is a cool half billion pounds cheaper than Scotland’s share of the costs of the Iraq and Afghan wars, even on the Westminster government’s blatant under-estimate of the war costs.

So Scotland can afford criminal invasions killing hundreds of thousands to ‘bring freedom’, but cannot afford the smaller cost of its own freedom!!!

The £1.5 billion estimate is mendacious in two ways.  Firstly, it is a simple recycling of a Canadian lie at the time of the Quebec independence referendum, apportioning with no argument 1% of GDP to startup costs.

Secondly, as nearly all the money will be spent in Scotland it is not a loss at all, but actually an increase to GDP, as any but the most nutty neo-con would be forced to acknowledge.  And it would be the precursor of government money spent annually in Scotland rather than England for ever thereafter.

Thankfully Alexander won’t have a job much longer – and if he thinks a penny of Scottish public spending is going in future to support his huge arse and deceitful mouth, he is very wrong.

 


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  • Mary

    These LDs take some beating. Now it’s Shirley Williams leaping to the defence of Rennard.

    One of the founding members of the Liberal Democrats has played down the seriousness of the issue of Lord Rennard’s alleged sexual harassment.

    Party peer Baroness Shirley Williams said the row had been “blown up”.

    Lord Rennard Lib Dem row ‘blown up’ – Shirley Williams
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-27647721

    Her mother Vera Brittain feminist and pacifist would have disagreed strongly with her.

  • guano

    Habbabkuk

    You are not a troll darling. You are an invited guest so that predatory drone Hasbara trolls scanning this blog for anti-Zionist New World Order sarcasm will land and be dream-charmed by your insolent tripe and fly away again.

    That duck on the lake is a decoy.

  • mark golding

    Thanks Mary – and some powerful exposures esp.

    30 May, 2014 – 4:42 pm – the Chilcot whitewash.

    As an important and successful vehicle to giving back function and capacity to ordinary folk my request to 38 degrees for individual board members remuneration was simply an exercise in economics out of interest and not an examination of probity.

  • guano

    Pot calling kettle black.

    Khartoum is a centre of Sufism. Many Sudanese pray to their prophet, peace be upon him, instead of to Allah. If they persecute a Christian woman for praying to Jesus, they have to destroy the whole population who practise the same crime inside Islam..

    btw since when 9 x 9 isn’t 81, please?

  • Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    Herbie

    “The West is reluctant to give them {ie, Poland } the defensive measures that would finally remove the threat from the East”
    ___________________

    Thank you for confirming that Russia is a threat to Poland, Herbie.

    You are progressing and would progress even further if you would now finally answer my question:

    “I think you’re very angry with the Poles about something or other. What is it that makes you so angry?”

    Why are you so angry with Poland, Herbie?

  • Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    Mr Scorgie

    “I imagine Anon that, to you and your fellow trolls, anyone to the left of Mrs Thatcher is “hard left.””
    ____________________-

    As usual, Doug, your imagination and that of your fellow bitches is working overtime.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “Have you ever made any comments on this blog Anon, condemning the Iraq war?”
    ____________________

    Have you ever made any comments on this blog, Doug, condemning Russian actions in Eastern Europe from 1944 to 1990?

    If so, please provide links of course.

  • Peacewisher

    I’m angry with Poland because they prevented us qualifying for the 1974 World Cup, and destroyed Bobby Moore’s reputation all in one go! LOL.

    I would also be have been angry with Argentina about Maradonna’s “Hand of God” goal, but I thought the Argentina had already suffered enough for Galtieri and being on the wrong end of Thatcher’s wrath.

  • Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    Can anyone on this blog ( perhaps one of the wise Excellences? ) name one country in the world – other than Russia – whose Head of State is a former secret policeman?

  • Peacewisher

    Well, there’s a wind up, Habby!

    Look no further than the USA. I believe George Bush senior was Head of the CIA before becoming a Senator, and wasn’t there a Hoover family association between intelligence and State? I think that’s why the US doesn’t make more of it regarding Putin. You’re welcome to though… although aren’t people encouraged these days to have a second career?

  • Herbie

    Why are you so angry with Russia, habby.

    Don’t bother. I know. It’s so awfully annoying when anything gets in the way of your plans for world domination, eh.

    For my part I’ve made it very clear that I’m concerned with Poland’s western dominated leadership, following an American policy ill-suited to long term Polish interests in the region they inhabit.

    I’ve pointed out that they’ve fallen foul of such errors many times in the past and have yet to learn the lesson.

    I’ve further pointed out that NATO and the West have little interest in their security, yet leave them to continually prick the beast whilst the West itself is cozying up to the same beast behind the scenes.

    I am concerned, you see.

    I think the West is using them and they again will pay the price.

  • Ben-LA PACQUTE LO ES TODO

    I thought Habba was all jacked-in and a sagacious member of the dark forces. To leave himself open with such an elementary question speaks more to his arrogant dismissal of anything that doesn’t fit his widget-shaped world.

    http://williamblum.org/aer/read/65

    “The odd part of Obama’s story is that he doesn’t mention the name of his employer. However, a New York Times story of 2007 identifies the company as Business International Corporation. Equally odd is that the Times did not remind its readers that the newspaper itself had disclosed in 1977 that Business International had provided cover for four CIA employees in various countries between 1955 and 1960.

    The British journal, Lobster Magazine – which, despite its incongruous name, is a venerable international publication on intelligence matters – has reported that Business International was active in the 1980s promoting the candidacy of Washington-favored candidates in Australia and Fiji. In 1987, the CIA overthrew the Fiji government after but one month in office because of its policy of maintaining the island as a nuclear-free zone, meaning that American nuclear-powered or nuclear-weapons-carrying ships could not make port calls. After the Fiji coup, the candidate supported by Business International, who was much more amenable to Washington’s nuclear desires, was reinstated to power – R.S.K. Mara was Prime Minister or President of Fiji from 1970 to 2000, except for the one-month break in 1987.

    In his book, not only doesn’t Obama mention his employer’s name; he fails to say when he worked there, or why he left the job. There may well be no significance to these omissions, but inasmuch as Business International has a long association with the world of intelligence, covert actions, and attempts to penetrate the radical left – including Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) – it’s valid to wonder if the inscrutable Mr. Obama is concealing something about his own association with this world.

  • Ben-LA PACQUTE LO ES TODO

    Oil? Future wars will be over water rights.

    http://english.al-akhbar.com/content/new-turkish-aggression-against-syria-ankara-suspends-pumping-euphrates’-water

    “The Turkish government recently cut off the flow of the Euphrates River, threatening primarily Syria but also Iraq with a major water crisis. Al-Akhbar found out that the water level in Lake Assad has dropped by about six meters, leaving millions of Syrians without drinking water.

    Two weeks ago, the Turkish government once again intervened in the Syrian crisis. This time was different from anything it had attempted before and the repercussions of which may bring unprecedented catastrophes onto both Iraq and Syria.

    Violating international norms, the Turkish government recently cut off the water supply of the Euphrates River completely. In fact, Ankara began to gradually reduce pumping Euphrates water about a month and half ago, then cut if off completely two weeks ago, according to information received by Al-Akhbar.”

  • nevermind

    kempe, thanks for the dates, but sadly Germany’s invasion and threats to Poland were known since they walked all over Austria, Britain knew of their plans well in advance.

  • Kempe

    ” Britain knew of their plans well in advance. ”

    Possibly why the agreement guaranteeing Poland’s borders was signed. Didn’t act as the deterrent expected though.

  • mark golding

    Not so much a forest Ben more like a grove in Kent with right-wing Nigel Farage fingering British nationalism to conjure a distinct party at the center-ground of British public opinion.

  • doug scorgie

    Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !
    31 May, 2014 – 1:32 pm

    “Have you ever made any comments on this blog, Doug, condemning Russian actions in Eastern Europe from 1944 to 1990?”

    Totally irrelevant Habbabkuk; just a diversionary tactic on your part.

    Anon said that the Iraq war was manifestly wrong yet he has never, to my knowledge, criticised the actions of the west in that war.

    He has not replied to my question.

    He is a shithead like you so I don’t expect an answer.

  • nevermind

    They knew what was coming, Kempe, and theAdmirality and foreing office and war office thought,still, after Hitler annexed Austria, that he might just be bluffing? that he would not dare to invade Poland?
    what piffling excuse. Sorry but i really do not want to hark on about it as I have become a grand dad today, sod history, politics and all sorts.

    Could not get me shoppin’ done, my mind was in perplexual arse for tittage today…:)
    He looks lovely…..

  • Mary

    Congrats Nevermind. It is always nice to hear good news like that. Welcome to the world little one. Sorry we have made such a mess of it.

  • Jay

    Congratulations Nevermind.

    I have turned into a super liberal parent. When the youngsters are naughty, or un kind I shower them with Love like they are the victim of the unsuitable behaviour.

    So far so good.

    @ Mike

    Sorry mate anything is worth conceiving to improve thing en-masse.
    Isn’t it the butterfly effect or something?.
    Reckon kindness is the way to go and wishfully thinking as you know.

  • Peacewisher

    Yes, congrats Nevermind. I recently had that pleasure as well.

    Mary: perhaps we should say “sorry we let them make such a mess of it”. It wasn’t quite such a mess 50 years ago, and that must be something to do with the generation before us. Guess we were soporified by gadgets and TV.

  • Peacewisher

    I’ve just had a terrible thought. Iraq WMD case didn’t get passed at the UNSC because the African nations voted against. So neutralise Syria, put a black president into the White House and try again… yep it works! Russia isolated in the UN Security Council.

    Others apparently don’t think Obama is doing such a good job:

    http://rt.com/news/162740-bilderberg-meeting-leak-agenda/

  • mike

    Kindness should be part and parcel of life, Jay. But the psychos in charge of the out-of-control US war machine are ruled by death and controlled by the lies they tell themselves.

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