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  • mark golding

    “Hard to enjoy the match without thinking of the 25 billion dollars squandered on the tournament by the Brazilian governmentdominion”

    There is good reason the corporate media(ZBC) in Britain is not covering public dissent(AUSTERITY MARCH), as any workable choices left to us within the system are becoming ever more limited. The Gilens report from Princeton University in America actually spelled it out: Representative democracy doesn’t work.

    Essentially, the only choice we are left with is to either DENY/REVOKE the system, …or be enslaved, according to the law, forever more.

    This is what TISA and the other subversive trade deals have in store for us.

    Any system based on exponential growth is inherently unstable. In capitalism, colonialism and globalisation, we have such a system. It fosters ever increasing property ownership and privatisation of the commons on the one side …and ever increasing scarcity on the other with the disenfranchisement and coercion of ever more people and wholesale exploitation and destruction of the environment. It is natural for such a system to constantly go through boom and bust and through wars. Such is the nature of exponential growth and collapse.

    The accumulation and discharge of power in such a system also becomes increasingly erratic.

    It’s clear that to view the nation states and their administrations as coherent entities is to mislead oneself. Due to the infighting between individuals and groupings within the controlling entities, it will never be completely clear to us, who is pulling the strings at any given time. With the flow of power being so amorphous, it is unlikely the visible power hierarchies ever actually correspond with the real flow of power. The path of a lightning strike can never be predicted. Similarly, for any given chain of events, the actual flow of power within our hierarchical society can never be fully predicted, either. There’s a kind of ‘uncertainty principle’ involved here, is there not?

    Given this kind of uncertainty, it follows, that no system can be controlled in a way that would ensure a goal, such as enshrining civil liberties. Therefore, when it comes to structuring society, it would be wise to move away from coercive systems and instead move towards the use of integrating platforms, where we refuse to accept higher authority and which allow us to cultivate each other’s autonomous decision making capacities.

    Our immediate problem is how does one disable a coercive structure one cannot pin down in any meaningful way? And should one succeed, how does one stop a another arising again? The only workable solution I can envisage, is to drain and collapse the entire system that allows such hierarchical abuses to exist in the first place. We pull the plug by disengaging from the entrapment of its exploitative survival systems. We build local community in its stead. We reverse the flow of wealth, by drawing money and services out of the system, whilst refusing to either work for the system, or to pay into it. Ultimately, this means to refuse to purchase its goods or to pay its tax demands. ….But we can only do this, when we are adequately ready. So start preparing…

    Now where is my virtual pitch-fork?

  • ben

    4 have been killed so far in the search for 3 teen angers with 350 arrested. What is the value of an Israeli as a ratio to the value of a Palestinian?

    100 Palestinians for each Israeli?

  • Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    @ Mark “Wait” Golding

    “RT office in Ramallah raided by IDF:

    http://rt.com/news/167628-israel-raid-rt-office/

    Cunts!”
    _______________________

    To judge your remark that the IDF are “cunts”, could you please tell us more of the background to and circumstances of the “raid” on the RT office, please?

    NB – not RT itself of course, because you are in no position to say whether or not RT are telling the truth. Other, independent, non-interested sources, please.

    Thank you.

  • Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    Ben

    Just to be able to evaluate your bona fides, so to speak – apart from frequently sounding off on this blog (and perhaps on others?), what do you do in concrete and practical terms to support the Palestinian cause and help the Palestinian people?

  • Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    Andy

    “Do these look like suffering parents desperate to hear positive news about their kidnapped children?

    http://im50.gulfup.com/OiwgIV.jpg
    ____________________

    As things stand at the moment, we only have your word for it that the people on the photo are the parents of the kidnapped young people.

    There is no caption on the photo to this effect.

    Can you confirm that they are, please.

    Thank you.

  • Andy

    habbabkuk: No, you have enough time to scrutinise every post on this site so use some of it to do your own research.

  • Resident Dissident

    When I went to the site linked by Andy I got the following warning from my virus protection

    “Whoa!

    Are you sure you want to go there?

    http://www.gulfup.com/ch may try to steal your information.”

    Together with a warning about phishing sites.

  • Andy

    resident dissident: When I clicked on it no alerts were forthcoming, are you sure your machine isn’t already infected?

  • Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    Andy

    You are either a fool or mendacious.

    The link you just gave (to “Jerusalem Online”) talks about a meeting between the parents of two of the young people and PM NETANYAHU.

    The photo you posted earlier one and which I queried shows State President SHIMON PERES with some people who are not the parents of the young people concerned. Everyone is smiling on that photo.

    Accordingly, your caption to that photo, which said :

    “Do these look like suffering parents desperate to hear positive news about their kidnapped children?”

    is….bollocks.

    Apology please.

    Hence

  • Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    Resident Dissident

    “When I went to the site linked by Andy I got the following warning from my virus protection

    “Whoa!

    Are you sure you want to go there?

    http://www.gulfup.com/ch may try to steal your information.”

    Together with a warning about phishing sites.”
    _____________________

    Are you surprised, Resident Dissident?

    After all: dodgy commenter, dodgy source! 🙂

  • Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    One down, two to go.

    Andy has answered my question, albeit mendaciously.

    However, California Ben and Mark “Wait” Golding appear to have gone to ground.

    I’m sure they’ll get round to answering the questions I put to them about their comments in due course, though.

    Won’t they?

  • Andy

    habbakuk: You asked for evidence from my original post (showing two giggling adults meeting Peres) to support the photograph being one of the real parents. It seems you clicked on the address without much problem. I was kind enough to give you the Jerusalem Post link which confirms it. Despite your empty accusations, they are the parents of one of the boys. Here you can meet the other two sets of parents.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPj4u-YlkwU

    Recognise anybody habbabkuk?

  • Andy

    habbabkuk: And finally ……This picture shows one parent positively beaming.

    http://www.jerusalemonline.com/assets/components/directresize/cache/page_2parentskidnappedletter_w437_h328.jpg

    I don’t respond because you demand it habbabkuk, although it is amusing that you think yourself so important as to be able demand evidence from posters. How about you provide evidence that you aren’t a Zionist propagandist trying to deceptively influence discussion on here by pretending to be impartial?

  • Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    Andy

    Your original post was as follows:

    “Do these look like suffering parents desperate to hear positive news about their kidnapped children?

    http://im50.gulfup.com/OiwgIV.jpg

    I think you’re trying to obfuscate and hide your tracks subsequently, you cunning Renard.

    To cut through your obfuscation:

    _________________

    Are you claiming that the people smiling in that photo in your original post are the parents on one of the missing teenagers?

    If you are claiming that, then you are wrong.

    If you are not, then what is the connection between your caption and the photo?

  • Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    “I don’t respond because you demand it habbabkuk, although it is amusing that you think yourself so important as to be able demand evidence from posters. How about you provide evidence that you aren’t a Zionist propagandist trying to deceptively influence discussion on here by pretending to be impartial?”
    _____________________

    You reply, Andy, because you are anxious to provide “proof” for the veracity of your comments (the fact that you have failed in this case is neither here nor there).

    Secondly, Andy, I am asking you to prove an assertion you make : you, on the other hand, are asking me to prove a negative (ie, that I am not something). To show how absurd that is, should I ask you to prove that you are not a paid propagandist for Hamas?

    Remember, to be taken seriously by serious people like myself, Resident Dissident, etc, you need yourself to be….serious.

  • Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    @ Fred

    You disappoint me, Fred. I am not claiming that Peres did not meet the parent of one or more of the missing teenagers. I am claiming that Andy posted a photo which had nothing to do with the clever-clever caption he devised. The photo Andy supplied showed a smiling Peres with people who were also smiling but were not the parents of the missing teenager. In other words, he had been either stupid or mendacious.

    BTW, I notice no one smiling on the photo you’ve just supplied of Peres and the parents. Can you?

    Hope that helps.

  • Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    It obviously does not occur to the Eminences and useful idiots that every time they advance a falsehood and get caught out, their credibility is further diminished. This one becomes less and less inclined to believe them even when they are telling the truth.

    But then they are not very intelligent, are they. As the Chairman of Hardy Spicer once said, in en entirely different context : “I feel sorry for them, they are poor dears”.

  • fred

    @Habbabkuk

    The people in the two photos are the same, even wearing the same clothes.

    AS for the smiling part it is not possible to confer anything from either photo. Someone who was worried their child was dead or injured would smile on being informed they were alive and well.

  • Andy

    Fred: Please try not to disappoint the most important person poster but perhaps you have hit the nail on the head! Maybe they have just been told that very news. After all, one of the boys uncles claims to know they are still alive (isn’t it remarkable how much they know) yet the crisis continues, at least for the Palestinians being assaulted, imprisoned, beaten and in some cases killed. Let’s not get too emotionally involved here, we wouldn’t want to insinuate that anyone other than the Israelis can feel the pain and misery of losing a child.
    All in all, it looks to me like this has been the perfect opportunity to try and weaken Hamas and re-arrest the prisoners released in the deal over the Israeli soldier, can’t recall his name.

  • Mary

    There was a quote by Dag Hammarskjold on the facing page of the order of service at a Choral Evensong I went to tonight. One of my friend’s grandsons aged 17 who set up a choir, composed some of the music and conducted them tonight. A very talented young man.

    The quote is not in this list. What a wonderful person he was and what a loss to the world. cf Ban Ki Moon.

    http://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/946904.Dag_Hammarskj_ld

    Included in the prayers tonight were one for the people of Iraq that they might find peace! and another for our ministers that they might find wisdom. I did not chortle out loud. We also gave thanks to God for our Queen or some did.

    This poem was also printed. One of my favourites. Wonderful and so profound.

    http://www.poemhunter.com/poem/the-road-not-taken/

  • Mary

    Brilliant post earlier Tony M on the culpability and criminality of ALL the politicians for their war crimes and well done Andy for keeping your end up. None of your links caused any problems here. You are correct. There is something fishy going on. A false flag to wreck any coming together of Fatah and Hamas in all probability. But please do not waste your energies on the nitwits. They are from the dark side of a dark planet.

    PS Loving your avatar.

    http://im.ft-static.com/content/images/935cfd86-3043-4e67-84a9-118b8a5afda0.img

  • BrianFujisan

    Another bit of the Beautiful Game, magic stuff …Algeria. 4 – Korea Republic 2

  • Ba'al Zevul (Chimp Assassin)

    With the usual caveats re. Global Research, this piece addresses a question which needs to be asked more often, namely WTF has faith to do with aggressive globalisation? More particularly, to what extent is Blair’s charidee a simple screen for some pretty underhand dealing?

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/unmasking-tony-blairs-interfaith-crusade-using-religious-extremism-to-impose-a-new-world-order/5388088

    And, for instance, what is the TBFF doing mentoring Mongolia’s national health system? Is it based on monasteries? It isn’t.

    Another question, why is Blair’s charity income inseparable from all other revenue pouring into his (largely invisible) corporate accounts?

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