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  • doug scorgie

    Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !
    18 Jun, 2014 – 5:58 pm

    “On a point of information, can you let us know how many drone strikes have been authorised on targets in Pakistan and Afghanistan since the beginning of this year?”

    As you know Habbabkuk US drone strikes were suspended for five months to allow the Pakistan government to have Peace talks with the Taliban.

    The drone strikes have now started again though I admit the use of the term “daily basis” was overstating the frequency.

    Now please answer the points I made on 18 Jun, 2014 – 11:38 am.

    I will allow you some time to confer with Resident Dissident on any reply you make.

  • John Goss

    “BBC London News have just reported on the 2nd anniversary of Julian Assange’s incarceration in Ecuador’s embassy. They used the phrase ‘facing trial in Sweden’, which is a lie, and were most exercised about the cost so far to the Met for the police presence, £2m.

    LET JULIAN ASSANGE GO FREE!”

    Mary, I mentioned the cost in my article, of not £2m but £7 million based on figures published 6 months ago.

    http://newsjunkiepost.com/2014/06/17/swedens-politically-motivated-persecution-of-wikileaks-assange/

    Figures can of course be misleading but what is worse than the cost to the taxpayer is the despicable manner in which Australia has let down their citizen in sycophantic homage to its puppeteer, Uncle Sam.

    http://johngossip.blogspot.co.uk/2014/06/the-hypocrisy-of-australian-foreign.html

    I realise this is not football, I’m watching the world cup champions going down to Chile, which following their other defeat does not, at this point in time look good for their chances of qualifying should everything remain the same. I have no doubt Professor Marcello Ferrada de Noli will be pleased that his native Chile, where he was imprisoned under Pinochet, are winning. He has been and still is an ardent campaigner for the Wikileaks founder.

    LET JULIAN ASSANGE GO FREE!

  • Herbie

    A crawling Milliband gushes:

    “I want you to know that if I become Prime Minister in less than a year’s time, I will be proud to do so as a friend of Israel, a Jew and, most of all, someone who feels so proud to be part of the community gathered here today.”

    Seems it’s got as bad as Amerika. You can’t get elected in Britain unless you first prostrate yourself at the feet of Israel and its criminal elites.

    Britain, Europe and the US have no future unless they put their own interests before those of Israel.

    There’s no sign that’ll happen until we rid ourselves of the current class of political creeps.

  • Mary

    No Aidworker1 it had not been posted. I read it through growing more despondent by the minute. He is a disgrace. One thing though, he will never be PM and Liebour have had it especially so recently connected to Blair the war criminal.

    We have no electoral choices whatsoever at the present time.

  • Aidworker1

    Mary Herbie,

    Coming home today I though exactly that. We have no electoral choices whatsoever.

    It’s depressing and any dissent will be met by watercannon.

  • Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    Mr Scorgie

    “The drone strikes have now started again though I admit the use of the term “daily basis” was overstating the frequency.”

    ______________________

    Thank you for admitting you exaggerated when you claimed that drones strikes take place “almost daily”.

    In fact, on the figures your mother (Mary) supplied and figures I’ve looked up myself there have been (very roughly) 300 drones strikes on all countries (ie not just Pakistan) under President Obama’s watch. That is equivalent (again, very roughly) to about one a week.

    Hence you over-stated your case by a factor of 7.

  • Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    Mary

    “He didn’t like it and has just said:

    ‘Mary

    “And who invented the evil Predator? Why, one Abraham Karem of course, now in the US, but originally a designer in the Israeli air force.”
    _________________

    Why the “of course” – because he’s a Jew/Israeli?”

    ************************

    Go on, Mary, answer the question – why the “of course” in your comment?

    Why Abraham Karem “of course”??

  • Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    This comment of Mary’s:

    “And who invented the evil Predator? Why, one Abraham Karem of course, now in the US, but originally a designer in the Israeli air force.”

    would, ironically, be more at home on Stormfront* than on CM.

    Shameful and vile.

    _____________________
    * where Mary was once suspected of commenting (we accepted her denials of course)

  • Fedup

    The extent of pernicious penetration and power is so much so that none dares to point to the origins of the power and its source for fear of “antisemi,…….” and the usual barrage of insults and epithets (that is the degree of control, note the number of shills permanently assigned to push the prescribed narrative and keep the proscribed notions of “fools” in check);

    Musings of a “Tokyo Rose”, “Lord Haw-Haw”, and a poopy pants second rate ……..

    It is cheaper to buy a “congressman/Member of Parliament/Apparatchik” from the western Parliaments/Congress/Senates emporiums than a tank, the former provide the soldiers too at no extra cost, to fight the wars they are ordered to, at considerably less costs, and great savings!

    Depressing is mentioned? Obviously domestic extremists and haters to a man!!!

  • Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    Mr Scorgie

    Now that you have admitted your exaggeration, I propose to salute that rare event by quickly answering the two questions you posed. I hope you will pay attention to my answers.

    1/. “I think that countries with vast poverty levels should not host expensive international events.”
    __________________________

    I would tend to agree with that (unless in the unlikely event that another country or other countries paid the bills)

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    2/. “I think the priority of those countries should be lifting people out of poverty through the redistribution of wealth.”

    _________________________

    I agree that lifting its people out of poverty should be a priority; whether it should be the first priority, however, might depend on the characteristics of that country and the exact circumstances it finds itself in. Furthermore, whether this should be achieved solely through the redistribution of wealth, as your statement seems to imply, might be a matter for discussion in that it is possible that a palette of means might be called for/be more effective.

    PS – you will have to take those answers as they stand; as the saying goes “The Editor will not enter into correspondence on this matter”. 🙂 But in exchange, I shall not press you for answers to various outstanding questions from me.

    ***********************

    La vita è bella, life is good!

  • Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    Fedup

    Your language seems to have improved since you last put in an appearance on this blog and so it is with some diffidence that I would respectfully ask you to:

    fuck off.

    Thank you.

  • Jack Fletcher

    Spectator demographics is a weak fundament for the argument being presented here. A good case is snooker where the level of diversity among spectator demographics bears so little resemblance to player demographics. And if you compare tv spectator demographics versus physically present spectators you get a totally different dynamic picture. Don’t please muck around with presenting crass argument based on personal impression and then somehow pretend that it is an educated observation. Just present your case as a personal impression. As it stands your blog entry this time round says more about your prejudices than those you present as defending your argument.

  • Mary

    Is the cheap sherry kicking in? Sound out of control..
    Your facile question containing another pathetic Storm front slur was answered much earlier on the Deadly Fiasco post. You are both deadly and a fiasco. Go to bed and sleep it off.

  • Resident Dissident

    @scourge

    My post:
    18 Jun, 2014 – 11:38 am:

    …has been totally ignored by Resident Dissident and Habbabkuk.

    Until about an hour a go I’ve been doing a little thing called work – you really should try it sometimes as you clearly need something to stretch your rather lazy brain.

    So let’s look at your original post:

    “I think that countries with vast poverty levels should not host expensive international events.

    I think the priority of those countries should be lifting people out of poverty through the redistribution of wealth.

    Do you agree ResDis?

    I doubt it:”

    Well actually I do – as would almost every other believer in social democracy and Keynesianism like myself – where we of course differ is the means of achieving that progress – the little word “democracy” and also believe that the market mechanism has a part to play in the allocation of resources.

    “Such policies requires (among other things) higher taxation to pay for development of housing, healthcare, infrastructure, job creation etc…

    That is prioritising the poor (majority) over the rich (minority).”

    Well again here I agree – but before you go expounding the superiority of the BRICs perhaps you could go and do a little research and compare tax rates and public spending levels in Western European democracies on all those good things with say that in Putin’s Russia – I think once you completed your survey you may have a rather different view as to what has been achieved by our democracies despite the opposition from wealthy and individuals and corporations and their fair and foul means. You see if you can convince people of the strength of your arguments (difficult in your case admittedly), show some basic competence and on going respect for democratic means – then those who wish to oppose will find it rather more difficult.

    “A good illustration of this is Venezuela where rich individuals and corporations have, for years, undermined the democratically elected government, which has been trying to bring about the elimination of poverty, illiteracy and health inequality.”

    NO this is not a good illustration – the people in charge have failed to show basic economic competence, a disregard for the better features of market economies, not a little corruption, together with a disdain for freedom of speech and other basic liberties which has then allowed their opponents to legitimately claim their commitment to democracy and liberty is skin deep and as a result erode their core support. I’m afraid this level of incompetence is often associated with the infantile leftism than you support – which does not realise that democracies work by making coalitions with some of those that do not fully share your thinking ( at a rough guess something in excess of 99% of the population in your case)

    “Democracy, of course, is only acceptable to the likes of Resident Dissident; Habbabkuk et al, if the government elected is right-wing neoliberal capitalist.”

    Well Habba can speak for himself and my guess he would like to a right of centre government as opposed to the more left of centre one that I would favour – but I should add that we probably both agree that despite all your protestations to the contrary we are both quite happy with systems where governments can change in response to what people want and where they are offered a choice, and then their periodic decisions are respected. You will of course say that such a choice is illusory – but then rather bizarrely back regimes where the alternatives offered are even narrower and the freedom to campaign and argue for a change is even more limited.

    Might I ever so kindly suggest that the main reason why democracy doesn’t work for you is that your ideas are so obviously flawed that they will never convince a sufficient number of people to support them – and that rather than seeking to elect another people it might be your ideas that perhaps need a little bit of examination before they are given any further airing in public. I come from a family with a long radical history and was given an upbringing that was well versed in democratic socialist thinking and lets just say if you cannot even start to convince me and others from a similar political background – lets just say you days as a political irrelevance are likely to continue for a long long time.

    Just a hint if you want to set up a straw man try and make it look just a little bit realistic.

  • Resident Dissident

    “We have no electoral choices whatsoever at the present time.”

    So can we expect to see LAdy Dorking, and her over powering arguments, on the Ballot paper in Surrey Central at the next General Election? Or don’t you have the courage of your convictions?

  • Resident Dissident

    @Aidworker

    “Coming home today I though exactly that. We have no electoral choices whatsoever.”

    Very easy to register yourself as a candidate and then we would have an electoral choice – what you really mean is that you know that next to no one could be convinced to vote for your crackpot ideas so best to try and bring them about through other means. Meanwhile you prefer to defecate all over the memories of our descendants who fought tooth and nail for the democratic freedoms that we have.

  • Resident Dissident

    I always find it slightly ominous how those who attack western democracy are always rather less vocal on the alternatives that they would like to see.

  • Resident Dissident

    “Just as I posted my comment Chile went 2 – 0 up.”

    I suppose the linkage between these events is rather greater than we normally see from this source. Lets talk about how Mother Russia scraped a lucky draw against plucky South Korea – surely punishment for all those tanks and other military goodies they let slip into Ukraine.

  • BrianFujisan

    Fedup

    Well said…Been a while, nice to see ya back

    P.S Don’t fall for it

    P.P.S. An old regular returns after a Long absence… And is told to fuck off… No Debate… Just Fuck off

    Mods FFs

  • Jay

    ” I always find it slightly ominous how those who attack western democracy are always rather less vocal on the alternatives that they would like to see.”

    Include.

  • Tony M

    I’m getting that déjà vu feeling all over again:

    Resident Dissident (18 Jun, 2014 – 11:00 pm) wrote:

    “Meanwhile you prefer to defecate all over the memories of our descendants who fought tooth and nail for the democratic freedoms that we have.”

    You mean antecedents/ancestors, surely? Please try to do better. Jacket: Shaky nail.

    Next!

  • A Node

    Resident Dissident 18 Jun, 2014 – 11:03 pm

    “I always find it slightly ominous how those who attack western democracy are always rather less vocal on the alternatives that they would like to see.”

    I’d settle for a form of democracy that works. It is plain that ours doesn’t, otherwise ‘we’ wouldn’t be spending billions imposing it on middle east oil-producing countries.

    Direct democracy is the most promising system that I am aware of, and I would gladly swap it for our system. A recent example of a country using this system led to such unheard of improvements in standards of health, education, wealth and gender equality, housing, employment, national prosperity, infrastructure, and general standard of living, that less successful democracies invaded it and had its leader horrifically beaten to death in front of TV cameras to discourage other countries from trying it.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_democracy

  • Ben-LA PACQUTE LO ES TODO

    ‘I always find it slightly ominous how those who attack western democracy are always rather less vocal on the alternatives that they would like to see.”

    I’ve noticed that you and Hab are always the last to see and respond to undeserved replies. Stop repeating the same inane bullshit and try reading along with comprehension of same.

  • Ben-LA PACQUTE LO ES TODO

    BTW; Also stop the pusillanimous drive-bys. Your pot shots reveal a cowardly foundation, RD.

  • Sofia

    Fedup.

    Let me join with Brian in welcoming you back.

    Your return got Dad and RD all excited and competing to see who could earn the first bonus.

    Dad is confident that his debating classes have put him ahead of the game and I have to admit his nuanced (“Fuck off.”) was, by his standards, pretty impressive.

    But I think tonight’s award has to go to RD ( “…you prefer to defecate all over the memories of our descendants.”

    Who can argue with that?

    However hard our Deadly Duo try tough, I don’t believe they’ll ever match Putin’s secret propaganda weapon. Here she is explaining the latest Ukrainian peace initiatives…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wY2ghdAUpf4

  • BrianFujisan

    Cameroon, Deary, Deary Me…And Spain WTF.

    Best stick to other matters….Such as –

    This Brilliant, Brilliant, interview – 8th june…
    R.T. with the Wise DR Jan Oberg.

    It Covers Very Much.. Nato, Russia, Ukraine, industrial military complex, Nuclear policy, MSM, Ect, Ect… EVEN PEACE… And More PEACE….

    So i dedicate this to all PEACE WISHER’S…. And also Oor Very Own Peacewisher

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAbVwAqpFwk

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