Actually just read that Obama quote again:
“we obviously have a deep interest in making sure that one of the closest allies we will ever have remains a strong, robust, united and effective partner”
If the United States truly believes it has a deep interest in making sure that Scotland does not become independent, we can be quite certain that America will be pulling out all the stops to make sure that No wins. The language is the language of intelligence service tasking memoranda, which Obama is consciously or unconsciously reproducing. I have personally been involved in a great deal of intelligence service tasking. Intelligence service resources, both personnel and financial, are deployed to a greater or lesser extent to a task according to an assessment of the depth of national interest involved. If Obama has decided the US has a deep interest in the result of the Scottish independence campaign, we can expect hidden interference at Ukrainian levels.
If Obama had anything about him he would have said no to the Nobel Peace Prize for nothing. As well as withdrawn from Afghanistan years ago. This unwise intervention just shows his lack of judgement again.
Looks like Big Eck could be in trouble.
This sounds like another of the alibis being prepared for what will probably be a No vote in the referendum. The mesaage being : the Scottish people WOULD have voted Yes HAD IT NOT BEEN for (1) the baised press, (2) the biased BBC, (3) (now) the USA, (4)???etc,n etc, etc.
It seems as if those coming out with those alibis show a certain lack of respect for the intelligence of the Scottish.
Interesting that the Scottish referendum has brought the sun and the t—- out in turn and that there is no crawling by him around Craig today.
Do you think he can get Mcdonalds to put something in the chips?
What if there is a surprise natural disaster in Scotland, say an earthquake around Conrie in the Scottish Highlands? Could help the No vote.
Sure spelt the end of Turkish PM Ecevit when he turned on the USA. in 1999.
Interesting that the b—- came out of hiding as soon as she saw my comment (nothing to say on the main theme, of course).
Sorry for the misspelling. It’s the Comrie Highlands Fault, the place where the most earthquakes occur in the UK.
“What if there is a surprise natural disaster in Scotland, say an earthquake around Conrie in the Scottish Highlands? Could help the No vote.”
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One thing is sure – if there were to be a natural disaster before the referendum, Trowbridge would be the first to claim that it had been artificially cuased by the Americans.
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La vita is a great big conspiracy.
You can put money on it.
If there is a big natural disaster in Scotland, especially around Comrie which has not experienced a big one in centuries, you can be sure I shall be crowing about it.
I have already made my comment on the previous thread, four
down from yours to Craig. Hardly polite to our host are you?
‘Craig, sorry to have to say it but you’re being silly. Point of that post?’
And speaking of silly……….this always makes me think of you. 😉
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qapzIbTV68
Mary
“Hardly polite to our host are you?
‘Craig, sorry to have to say it but you’re being silly. Point of that post?’”
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But much, much politer than some of the Excellencies were when they reacted to Craig’s splendid posts on Ukraine/Russia…..
It’s very loyal of you, I’m sure, but I don’t think Craig will be too offended and I’m sure he can fight his corner without any assistance from you, Mary. Just stick to the substance and stay in topic, please.
“If there is a big natural disaster in Scotland, especially around Comrie which has not experienced a big one in centuries, you can be sure I shall be crowing about it.”
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“crowing about it” – what a curious reaction to a natural disaster.
On a point of info, do you also “crow” about epidemics and famines?
It is obvious where the t— is coming from ref the Scottish vote.
I need no patronising comments from him incidentally. He is filling this thread up nicely with the recycling.
The BBC stooge speaks:
A matter for the folks in Scotland
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-27724761
‘As you might expect, supporters of the Union are singularly delighted at the comments by President Obama to the effect that he favours a strong United Kingdom, implying that he is less than delighted with the notion of independence.
And the response from supporters of independence? One senior figure said to me privately: “This is incredible. We hadn’t expected them to run Obama until August. We must be doing well!” This was, needless to say, delivered in ironic fashion.
To date, the US has stayed neutral on the Scottish question: the US ambassador to the UK told me last October that it was the policy of the US to stay out of the Scottish referendum.
At the same time, the US has appeared ready to be a little more open on the prospect of the UK leaving the EU. (The Americans are agin.)’
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LOL
OchAyeTheNews So funny!
Brian Taylor sacked as head of Bias for BBC Scotlandshire
http://bbc.scotlandshire.co.uk/index.php/city-news/37-brian-taylor-quits-bbc-scotlandshire.html
I shall be crowing about a most unnatural disaster, hoping that the culprits are finally exposed, and thrown into prison until they die.
They have already established that they are mass murderers.
The States will I’m sure try to scupper the vote if it leans YES.
We won’t be allowed to leave if we do say YES.
Wrong type of democracy
The Thrawn Effect: Vote Yes
One of the main reasons that British Labour lost votes in Scotland, was the Labour partys support for US wars. Obama saying “we can’t do it” may have an unexpected effect.
DonnyDarko
“The States will I’m sure try to scupper the vote if it leans YES.
We won’t be allowed to leave if we do say YES.
Wrong type of democracy”
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And I’m equally sure that you’re wrong.
Your comment appears to carry the excuses and alibis process to new heights, Donny. Or perhaps new depths.
No, I think he is just speaking the truth. It is undeniably in the USA’s interests for Scotland to stay in the UK, and I don’t think anyone would question that fact.
If Salmond gets a No vote then it will be down the continuing uncertainty about Scotland’s currency and EU membership, which he has completely failed to give honest answers about, not to wild conspiracies involving wide-scale vote-rigging.
You can have any democracy you want as long as good old uncle Sam approves first.
“It is obvious where the t— is coming from ref the Scottish vote.”
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And I wish the b— – would remember my previous comments on this issue.
Namely that I’m neutral on the issue, whilst noting with approval that it there is an independent Scotland Labour will be deprived of a heck of a lot of seats at Westminster and there is a good chance that it will never come into power again in what remains of the UK.
Of course Obama wants a strong and united UK…the US certainly doesn’t need the UN having to debate the matter of an rUK being a member of the security council.
The US is an Empire that is now being ridden by a jockey called Zionism. Every other state on earth must to be weakened and divided in order for the jockey to win. Division is therefore the policy of the US Empire as it remains with the UK. That is a different word concept from independence. You can have Union and division at the same time. You can have independence and harmony. What Obama has been told to avoid is harmony.
The inner harmony of the brave Muslim people of Syria and Iraq has survived the wrenching forces deployed by zionism against Islam, the pitting of Russia against Al Qaida, and the pitting of traditional Islam against Al Qaida.
The wining and dining of Gaddaffi’s entourage in Paris was as spectacular show of vanity as the Assad election is now. Fruitcakes both of them.
When inshallah Islam wins, it will be hard to understand how these evil bastards held on to power for so long.
Would a £15-20 billion Trident replacement contract and nowhere to put it be anything to do with this revelation. It is clear that Barry gets his orders from the usual suspects , feed the machine.
Habbakuk/Habbabkuk above ‘Labour will be deprived of a heck of a lot of seats at Westminster’
Good and good riddance to them, especially those who support Zionism and are Labour Friends of Israel such as Gordon Brown, Wee Duggie and Jim Murphy to name but three.
The Better Together crowd are shooting themselves in the foot. Getting desperate?
This latest move of theirs is insulting, patronising and ridiculous.
Vote against independence and you can ‘scoff’ fish and chips every day for 10 weeks, ministers tell Scots
Government sparks ridicule after publishing list of reasons to stay in UK
Ministers claim Scots would be £1,400 poorer voting ‘Yes’ to independence
Scotland Office says ‘UK dividend’ buys 295 fish suppers or 280 hotdogs
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2649554/Vote-against-independence-scoff-fish-chips-day-10-weeks-ministers-tell-Scots.html
@Guana
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insha'Allah
All being well.
Craig’s words are clear and straightforward yet it seems difficult to understand. Can we expect the creation of a coup or a Black ops operation before the Scottish vote? Clearly sources in the diplomatic corps in Edinburgh, which is home to nearly 50 consulates and diplomatic missions think the tide of opinion has shifted significantly in recent months after a noticeable swing against David Cameron’s government and the ‘no’ campaign.
Former NATO secretary general and British defense minister George Robertson said in a speech in Washington this past week that for the United Kingdom to “shatter this year would be cataclysmic.”
Why?
Because nuclear tension with Russia will increase dramatically in the fall and the nuclear submarine base in Scotland and other torpedo firing sites will become paramount to America at the breaking point even though the transition could take years it will be understood as a weakness, a knight lost in the grand game.
Thus a terrorist attack on Faslane will no doubt force through the plan to allow the base to be designated as sovereign UK territory along the lines of SBA’s in Cyprus for example.
Lord Astor has said the devil is in the details.
http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/top-stories/scottish-independence-trident-nuclear-warning-1-3327008