An “independent” all-party commission set up by a lobby group funded by NATO, the FCO and Qatar, consisting of eight of the most right wing establishment figures in the universe, supports keeping Trident. The joint chairmen were “Lord” Browne of the Labour Party, “Sir” Malcolm Rifkind of the Tory Party and “Sir” Menzies Campbell of the Lib Dems. Over three years of deliberation, the Commission did not have, or consider, one single original thought not approved by the Westminster Establishment, and demonstrated that there is no difference at all between the three neo-conservative parties.
Why “Establishment figures endorse status quo” is news beats me. The only news is that the estrangement of ordinary people from the moribund political establishment means nobody cares what these old troughers and sycophants think. In Scotland the referendum has given an impetus to a popular will to take back the power kidnaped by an unrepresentative political class. These old fogeys may need to have the power (with American permission) to kill billions of their human beings, in order to feel potent and important. But if they want to keep these appalling devices, they are going to have to look for somewhere new to keep them. The Pool of London?
Crazed Anti-Austerity Speaker Supports Pro-Austerity Party
“We’ll change the Labour Party from the inside. It’s always worked before” said extremist union bigwig.
Crazed Anti-NATO Blogger Supports Pro-NATO Party
“The Scots have never been inclined to war. It’ll be fine” said radicalish liberal.
Mary answered perfectly well (and I suspect that was just a sample) so Habbabkuk, stop acting childish, or do you only accept evidence from sources of your choosing?
To get back on topic, Salmond seems better as an opposition and all the signs are there that he’ll be a big sell out when the time comes. Remember in ’97 when people were singing “Things can only get better”. He fooled virtually all (although Pilgers warning against was was coming is notable). So go back to your toons, locks and burns and prepare for deception.
Not only a fascist state, a fascist world perhaps.
Facebook Admits Playing With Our Moods
By Jonathan Cook
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article38961.htm
aka an experiment in the manipulation of the Lilliputians.
Social media was widely used in the colour revolutions. Was this sort of interference contributing in the upheavals along the North African countries along the Mediterranean too?
Such manipylation can also be used to diminish the spirit and to engender ‘feelings of resignation’ in a population, ie ‘don’t bother to protest. You know it’s useless’
Crazed Anti-Mind Control Liberation Fighter Supports Tele
“I never miss Newsnight” said the prodigious paster of Media Lens links.
Crazed Gambler Bets No Money
“80 Days and I’ll wager a thousand pounds” said poster not carried away with it all at all.
(by interphase zext to the Craig Murray blog)
Sofia’s innuendo re Qztolnoni on board misleading. Qztolnon life evolved in gigantic oceans of sweet crude and 98-octane unleaded lakes. Qztolnonis highly inflammable – spark from unsecured glipper electrode initiated catastrophe – remains proved addictively tasty. Qxxon (inc) shares will shortly be offered by my broker. H sends regards. Best, BZ. Ends.
The guarded and ambivalent maybe, could be, perhaps interwoven into further extirpation of Palestinians;
Possible Revenge Killing Adds to Tension in Israel
However the arrest of Sarko the tosser and enocon tool, gives some credence that at least laws are still relevant in some parts of the world. Fact that Sarko support network (bribed and coerced team) is also exposed and there could be more scalps on the way is refreshing event that murderers will face justice regardless of their distance from the scene of blood, piss, torn limbs and mangled bodies.
Sarkozy was formally placed under investigation
Lwtc247
“Mary answered perfectly well (and I suspect that was just a sample) so Habbabkuk, stop acting childish, or do you only accept evidence from sources of your choosing?”
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Your “comment” overlooks the fact that I’m already aware of Mary’s position; cf my original question, which said
“Several commenters have taken to describing Britain as a “fascist” state.
There is, indeed, an example of this on this very thread (Mary’s comment at 20h44, above).”
This is why my question was not addressed to Mary but to Craig and why a “reply” from Mary, as you call it, is superfluous.
Hope you understand now.
Poxy building crashed into by aircraft and still standing
Experts maintain; despite practically full gas tanks, the jet fuel used by the poorer nations is not as potent and fierce as the Western jet fuel that demolish sky scrapers.
Crazed Druggies Do Drugs
“I’m a cat lover not a terrorist” says West London overlord.
Habbabkuk. So you will only accept evidence from sources of your own desire. That explains a number of things. Appreciate your honesty.
Crazed Troll Haters Support Trolls Shock
“I feed him and feed him but he will not go away” said internet warrior “it’s inexplicable”.
Water cannons are an indicator of a fascist state? Huh?
Mary,
In answer to your question on the Brooks blog, no I am not an employee of Murdoch. Hardly surprising that you would ask such a thing as you dislike anyone who disagrees with your hyperbolic opinions. One could almost be tempted to ask if you are in the employment of Hamas, Fatah or even some anti-establishment mob given your frequent posts supporting those causes. However, since I believe people can hold and express radically different opinions without being paid for them I see no need.
Just a note anout spent Nuclear fuel.
There is a Reactor type, developed by the U.S.A. in tbe sixties but politically curtailed under the Nixon administration which can ‘burn’ spent Uranium fuel leaving a very significantly less radioactive by product. There are several variants: M.S.R. , Molten Salt Reactor and L.F.S.R. , Liquid Fluride Salt Reactor are two examples utilising Thorium which can use Uranium and Plutonium as fuel, therefore solving the waste problem. The west has largely ignored this tecnology, for reasons commercial as well as political; however India has an experimental solid fuelled Thorium reactor up and running and China is keen to develop a commercially viable L.F.S.R. within a generation.
As for reactor leaks…….It is usually the ancillary piping to and from the reactor that develop leaks, rather than the reactor itself.
Mick
“in the employment of…some anti-establishment mob”
Tsch, employment no. Our mobs are by free association only.
Just ancillary piping, unimportant stuff like cooling and that. It wasn’t leaks at Fukushima, but simply loss of their external and backup power supply. It nearly happened at Hunterston on the Clyde too, no Tsunami needed, just high winds and a brief powercut ‘tripped’ that plant, we seen diesel fuel being requisitioned from petrol stations under armed guard, for backup generators that were unserviced and couldn’t be started. We’ll never know how close it came to meltdown, it nearly went rogue on other occasions too, thanks to jellyfish sucked up a coolant intake. Too expensive, too dangerous and requiring the sort of police security state we rightly abhor for the ‘privilege’ or terribly bad luck of having them in our midst, on our doorsteps.
Nuclear power is finished, it has been humanity’s greatest folly after nuclear weapons, widespread nuclear contamination of land, air and seas is now reality. Continued human survival and habitability of this earth to which we are bound, now seems improbable.
Some more of the creeping fascism of our state.
A county council combines with the police.
There is a fleet of camera cars going around and parked up to catch speeding motorists or those committing traffic offences. Not marked POLICE but SMART.
That is http://www.drivesmartsurrey.org.uk/about-us/
There are police desks in libraries and in local authority HQs now as nearly all the local police stations have closed.
Where are the dividing lines as this melding of authority and control happens? The lines are becoming invisible.
I asked ‘Mick’ if he worked for Murdoch as there seemed to be some defence of his evil empire/his employees going on.
Mick
Craig, I liked the post until the penultimate paragraph. I completely agree with you on the issue of her dangerous incompetence and the existance of a gilded cage. However, why drag in the issue of her affair and indeed that of Charles and Camilla? To be honest the list of things I find abhorrent about Brooks and the whole News International outfit is a long one but the fact she was carrying on with Coulson doesn’t feature. Admittedly, ‘toffs’ are more relaxed about bedhopping but then that is one of their more enlightened attitudes towards societal norms. As a a man who has admitted to playing offside I didn’t expect you to take the moral highground.
Craig answered to the taunt.
Then ‘Mick’ again
Craig – I understand what you are getting at. I agree that the papers controlled by Brooks would have made a song and dance if any other editor had admitted to banging their deputy. I am not sure I agree with you about the super rich being given an easy ride, the red tops love to splash their lives all across the front pages too, Max Mosley is one example, but there are certainly those who are protected from public ridicule.
Mary – you can talk about whoever you like in connection with the ‘temptress’ but without any proof it is just juvenile conjecture.
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Then after I asked the question, Habbakuk chimed in
From Mick
“Mary – you can talk about whoever you like in connection with the ‘temptress’ but without any proof it is just juvenile conjecture”
which elicited the following reply from Mary
“Do you work for Murdoch Mick?”
Which, I submit, proves Mick’s point about juvenile.
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When all else fails, the word ‘juvenile’ pops out.
A grade 2 troll in the making.
Mary,
My comment towards Craig was not a taunt, as you describe it, but an opinion and comment on his original post. I don’t believe Craig took it as a taunt as he responded in a measured way, as I then did in turn.
I refute your claim that I was defending Murdoch or his former employees. You have kindly posted my comments, as I you will be able to read I stated quite clearly ‘I completely agree with you (Craig) on the issue of her dangerous incompetence…’ which was followed by ‘…the list of things I find abhorrent about Brooks and the whole News International outfit is a long one but the fact she was carrying on with Coulson doesn’t feature.’ What a strange defence of the evil empire! Whereas, if you consider the ‘taunt’ you will realise that my point was quite simple. In terms of what occurred at News International the staff shagging one another is really not a big deal.
Please do not associate me with Habbakuk. I find many of his comments and themes as repetitive and tiresome as your own.
Since you don’t like to be described as juvenile, how else would you describe your nudge nudge, wink wink allusion that Brooks may have enjoyed the intimate company of Blair and Cameron? How about scurrilous? Snide?
When all else fails, or when you are challenged, you have only one response and that is type, and quite possibly scream at the computer, the word troll. It is quite pathetic either eturn the challenge or move on. Don’t hurl back such a hollow term as though that liberates you from the need to substantiate your remarks.
Mick to Mary
“When all else fails, or when you are challenged, you have only one response and that is type, and quite possibly scream at the computer, the word troll. It is quite pathetic either eturn the challenge or move on. Don’t hurl back such a hollow term as though that liberates you from the need to substantiate your remarks.”
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There you go, Mary, you’ve been told!
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@Mick
“Please do not associate me with Habbakuk. I find many of his comments and themes as repetitive and tiresome as your own.”
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I know you have to write that otherwise you will be cast into the outer darkness by the Eminences and Useful idiots, but your post shows that you are beginning to gain confidence and you have got off to a promising start. Why, I’m sure you’ll soon be asserting, together with me, that
La vita è bella, life is good!
@ Tony M. I cannot comment on Hunterson although it sounds like it was very poorly designed with no real thought given to any negative scenarios.
Nuclear power is not finished, in it’s present form it cannot continue for long but when, not if, Fusion becomes comercially viable, with the benefits of neglible radioactive waste, recycling potential of the parts and huge energy production either using Tokamak or laser techniques the only arguments against it will be that it allows developing countries too cheap electricity. As to all that radiation, perhaps the fact that between 1945 and 1998 there were over 2.000 nuclear weapons tests, over 500 above ground, not to mention the amount of accidents via plane crashes or other accidents that were hushed up but released radiation into the atmosphere.
And yet….sofia….there was also the story of primates of the same species on two close islands. Observers noted that the monkeys on one island suddenly began washing their hands. Mere months later, the isolated 2nd group also began washing before a meal. It’s funny how the Observer Effect makes sprayers of us all.
I agree about nuclear atmospheric testing, though banned as long ago as 1961-ish, its legacy is still encircling and contaminating the globe. In a rare outbreak of conscience scientists the world over could see the damage mounting and reined in the political and power elites. Accumulated high level civil nuclear power, which for a time merely were cover for military projects, the power produced negligible and incidental, wastes number ten of thousands of tons, they are accidents and leaks waiting to happen and over the timescales involved inevitable. Technological advance in one field, which you hope will rescue nuclear power from its species-extinguishing potentials and reputation, and which will remain, will of course be accompanied naturally by similar gains in other fields of cheaper, cleaner less dangerous energy production, generation and storage, wind, wave, even solar efficiency could take leaps into higher yields. Fusion reactors are just laboratory curiosities, fake models, impracticable theory and wishful thinking. Projects using proven technology, new hydro schemes and pumped storage are being completed in Scotland, which can use surplus wind energy to lift water up to high reservoirs, where it can then be released when demand is high and winds not so strong, simple and clean, compatible with all flora and fauna and harmless to human health. Infinitely preferable low-tech and working now, unlike your infinitely improbable pie in the sky nuclear confusion. If molten-salt is your thing, somebody should introduce you to Clark of this parish. The advantage of having all these nuclear physics qualified persons is that they can deal with the mess their predecessors have left, if I had you to tea however, I’d shake your hand wearing thick gloves and sit you at the far opposite side of the table.
Sofia,
Your comment re. my two pennies worth was noted.
I now see this on Press TV:-
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/07/02/369616/us-to-send-4000-missiles-to-iraq/
Well …well – milk the cow both ways – invade and create chaos – then sell the weapons ostensibly to quell the chaos you created ( at a profit to boot)!
@ Tony M. I really like bananas but sitting at the opposite end of the table, let alone wearing thick gloves is a little too precautionary principal to my way of thinking!
I mentioned the Fluoride type reactors as a way of utilising waste to produce energy on an industrial scale whilst drastically diminishing excruciatingly harmful products caused by typically blind political thinking.
I agree about Hydro and condemn Green? peace Ha! for persuading the abandonment of 2 hydro schemes in South America recently.
As to fusion, it will become a reality simply because the stubborn sometimes egotistical curiosity of man will demand that the huge tecnical and scientific barriers are climed and banished. As to laboratory curiosities, at 360.000 tonnes, the ITER experiment at Cadarache in the south of France has got to be the heaviest bit of wishful thiking yet contrived.
Tony M, 2 Jul, 12:33 pm:
Since 1945 there have indeed been thousands of emissions of radioactive contamination into the environment. Life in general does not seem to have been hindered. I believe that such contamination is probably largely responsible for the large increases in cancer and other illnesses in recent decades. Such effects are personal and family tragedies, of course, but they do not threaten to wipe out humanity; indeed, since 1945 the human population has more than doubled, and continues to rise. Species are becoming extinct at an alarming rate, but this is mostly due to habitat loss; nuclear contamination and genetic mutation hardly figure. Even the most contaminated and irradiated areas such as around Chernobyl, Hiroshima, bomb test islands etc. are far from being wastelands devoid of life. There is a high incidence of mutation that causes a proportion of plants and animals to die very young, but overall most species continue to thrive despite these losses.
Tony M, nuclear contamination does horrible things, but I think you’re underestimating how robust and versatile life is. We live in a nuclear universe. We’re sustained by a natural fusion reactor 150 million kilometres away, but don’t go thinking it’s “clean”; all life on Earth is adapted to exploit the narrow window of protection offered by the atmosphere and the magnetosphere, and you can still get cancer from sunshine or too many jet flights. Earth itself is a multi-terrawatt fission reactor, with the decay of uranium constantly causing it to burp radioactive radon gas and other isotopes. Burning coal and hydrocarbons releases tonnes of radioactive carbon into the atmosphere; lots of stuff from underground is radioactive through activation. Brazil nuts and tobacco are radioactive, er, I think it’s due to naturally activated phosphate fertilisers.
Life’s defences to radioactivity go back a long way. Earth was far more radioactive when it was younger, which is why cells have genetic repair mechanisms as a fundamental part of the cell division process. Cells knew how to live with radiation for billions of years before the first multi-celled organisms evolved.
Tony, I’m not belittling the dangers of nuclear power. The typical Generation II power reactors need to be shut down and dismantled (or do what? Use each one till it blows up?). More recent designs are probably safe to use but I’m opposed due to their fuel inefficiency and consequent production of actinide “waste”.
The authorities certainly play down and cover up the detrimental health effects of radioactive pollution, but it really doesn’t look like a threat to life, or even to any particular species. What it is is a life-wrecker for millions of people. And also for billions of animals and lesser organisms.
My book recommendation might surprise you: Wings of Death by Dr Chris Busby. It’s not an easy read so don’t rush it.
John Leon, 2 Jul, 4:28 pm: if you’re interested in fission at all I recommend you investigate Molten Salt Reactors (MSRs) as a way of disposing of “spent” nuclear fuel. MSRs seem capable of transmuting actinide “waste” or “spent fuel” into reaction product isotopes with much shorter half-lives. They can burn plutonium and depleted uranium with greater stability than fast reactors. Look for a French project called AMSTER – which is just a set of designs and computer simulations, unfortunately. Only two MSRs have ever been built:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molten_salt_reactor#Liquid-salt_very-high-temperature_reactor
Tony M, 2 Jul, 5:10 pm:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dam_failure#List_of_major_dam_failures
Nuclear power is not a special case.