The revelation that undercover Met officers spied on the family of Jean Charles De Menezes after they murdered him, leaves me utterly appalled.
You have to consider this in the context of the lies that the Met assiduously spread about De Menezes – that he entered the tube without buying a ticket, that he vaulted the ticket gates, that he ran away from officers, that he was wearing a bulky jacket.
All of these were lies. In truth the poor man had entered the tube normally and legally, walked calmly and sat down with a free newspaper. He wore a short tight denim jacket. Then totally without any cause or justification from his actions whatsoever, his murderers shot him multiple times in the head. Just because his Brazilian complexion looked a bit Arab.
I can think of no category of lie worse than that told by a murderer against the reputation of their victim.
The police did everything they could to mislead the media, planting lies and encouraging stories they knew to be untrue. Personally I find it extremely suspicious that numerous CCTV cameras were found not to be working, and have little doubt that the police destroyed that evidence.
There can be no other motive for spying on De Menezes’ family than either the hope of gaining information to feed to the media to discredit the man they murdered, or to attempt to pervert the course of justice.
They did not have to worry – their were plenty of others to pervert the course of justice for them, including the DPP and above all, Sir Michael Wright, as disgusting a piece of scum as ever sat on an English bench, who directed the inquest jury that they could not return a verdict of unlawful killing. (I was delighted to find that, when I googled Sir Michael Wright, my article on him came high on the first page. Is that result tailored by Google for me, or is it general?)
The recent revelation that the Met spied on Menezes’ family sparked very little public interest. It should. It is a still more appalling outrage than the Murdoch press hacking Millie Dowler. At least the Murdoch gang had not actually murdered Millie Dowler themselves. The De Menezes family were being spied on by their son’s and brother’s murderers.
And again I would ask for no shyness in coming forward.
We don’t know anything about JC De Menezes Electrical work/
We don’t know anything about the “real perpetrators”.
So there’s no point in speculating about what we don’t know.
All we know is that the police have vast resources for obtaining information and yet mysteriously they say that they do not follow people who are their own suspects, and they do follow people who are not suspects and kill them in cold blood.
Evidence is made available about their patsies because they are using them to build a myth about Islamic terrorism. What is a patsy? Someone who they have got some leverage on about something they have done, but who isn’t a terrorist. Jean Charles may have fallen into that category, but he decided not to be manipulated into doing what they wanted.
Freedom of spirit is a Neo-con thought crime.
Anon
Run out of ideas? Don’t worry, Humbug will be back on shift soon.
Guano
We know a lot about the real perpetrators. They posted video of themselves and their intentions online. Clearly you have different ideas. Might I ask what these are?
“A myth about Islamic terrorism”
Probably the most laughable thing I’ve read in over a year of posting on the Craig Murray blog forum.
Mr Gibbs
Made his dibs
From selling the turds
Of foreign birds
The most laughable thing I have noticed on the CM blog is the narrative the jews like Anon would have us dumb goyim believe, that the poor starving Palestinian Muslims living on a small blockaded piece of land 20 miles x 4.5 miles in Gaza, surrounded entirely by jews, lobbing kitchen rockets are the aggressors in a conflict , where the “attacked” hold 250 nuclear bombs,2000 F-6s, 4 nuclear subs and “control and own America” !!
Its almost as laughable as asking the 800k jews who followed the Rabbi(“goyim are born to serve us”)Ovadia to believe that he requested to be buried in a pink yarmulke !
“Its almost as laughable as asking the 800k jews who followed the Rabbi(“goyim are born to serve us”)Ovadia to believe that he requested to be buried in a pink yarmulke !”
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It might be a little difficult to be buried IN a yarmulke (of whatever colour) given that a yarmulke is a small skullcap measuring a mere couple of inches by a couple of inches.
As always, though, I stand willing to be corrected.
Craig,
“Michael Wright” – your 2008 article came 98th on my google search.
Then I searched for “Sir Michael Wright” – top of the list!
Yeah those ballistic intercontinental rockets tipped with fireworks and sparklers can do a lot of damage, you know!
Pathetic isn’t it? But that is the ugly reality of the twenty first century that defenceless people are kept in a concentration camp under a regiment of medieval siege with no access for outsiders to send in aid, and food. The fact never publicised is the plane load of medical supplies sitting in Cairo Airport and is not allowed to reach Gaza. Warsaw ghetto was not as harsh as Gaza, there are no records of German troops shelling and bombing the place and killing lots of its residents and turning ten percent of them into homeless refugees with in the confines the ghetto.
So far as the pink stuff goes that is Soros lgbt politics to further fragment and confuse the issues that ought to be focused on. Rabbi Oviadia was no pink wearing sort, and he is on record to know if Sharon the butcher of Sabra and Shatila massacre was making the right decision though the consistency of his own stools. Rabbi’s soft stool meant Sharon will not be making good decisions that day, however if his stool were hard he was happy in the knowledge that Sharon will be making the right decisions all day long.
@Harry
Did you mean this incident Harry.
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/berlin-unbekannter-attackiert-israelische-touristen-in-discothek-a-703319.html
Berliner nightclub Matrix, 3 am in the morning. A Israeli topurist age 22 was asked to his whereabouts and when he said Israel, he was punched and beaten by what was most likely a Palestinian. His friend came to the rescue after narrowly missing a beerglass thrown at him. Outside they were all subsuded by pepperspray.
The attacker bolted and the two called the police. Thats the Staats sicherheits polizei, not your usual copper, those who deal with terror incidents.
There was another case, link on the same page at the bopttom, of a dance troop being verbally embarrassed somewhere else. Despicable, but inevitable, due to the circumstance we find oursaelves in.
If they ban demonstrations supporting Palestinians here and in Germany, against the laws of free speech, all hell would break loose, me thinks
Gosh we’ve gone from 7/7 conspiracy theory back to the Jews. If anyone can link the two then the comments section will have achieved a kind of perfection. First prize of a pink yarmulke to anyone who can link 7/7 with the Jews.
@RD”: What I find (morbidly) fascinating is that the BBC are trying to fight to propaganda war on two fronts: pro-Israel anti-Palestine on the one hand, and pro-Ukraine anti-Russia on the other. I’ve notice that most of the news media just do one, and leave the other alone in their commentary. This is sensible because no-one knows how the two conflicts may interact in future. As a peacewisher, I would hope that they cancel each other out with minimal bloodshed…
Sorry, wrong thread. Meant for RD not Anon, who I’ve given up on.
Peacewisher
If you go over to a pro-Israel site and read the comments you’ll find the BBC frequently accused of being biased towards the Palestinian side.
You see, you have nutters on the one side who would wish the coverage was entirely pro-Palestinian and nutters on the other side who would wish it was all pro-Israel. Let’s hope the BBC continues to maintain a straight course and isn’t suckered into taking sides by either of the lunatic fringes.
Nevermind
Also some free Palestine demonstrators have taken to spraying swastikas on public monuments, wearing football shirts with the name ‘Hitler’ on the back and waving placards saying ‘Hitler was right’. Why are all Jews hated like this for the actions of the Israeli government?
Anon
Sleep. Humbug is on duty now.
Humbug,
who are the ‘real perpetrators’ of a false-flag crime please?
Humbug,
how can an English Jew, Peter Lerner, be an IDF apologist for 1000 deaths in Gaza?
Are there 2 separate moralities, one for Gaza and one for England?
Do we bomb the cities where individuals have committed crimes?
Has his English passport been revoked now?
Humbug,
All the above questions in relation to English Muslims and Syria.
How can an English Muslim be a Jihadist apologist for hundreds of thousands of Muslim deaths in Syria?
Are there 2 separate moralities, one for the innocent citizens of Syria and one for England?
Do we bomb the cities, as Assad has done, where individuals have committed crimes?
Has the West put out an international arrest warrant for Assad?
In other words, is it helpful to humanity that all UK politicians now see the world through the prism of what is beneficial to Israel, rather than the previous reputation of England as an honest broker for human justice in the world?
Where has that gone?
Who is going to do that role now?
Answer in humbug, we will understand what you mean.
Anon. Don’t know why you ask me specifically, I only linked to what Harry weas referring to.
If you are insinuationg that Germany somehow is especially virulent against jews/jewish interests, thenm you are wholly mistaken. This sort of scape goating does not work anymore.
http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/uk_news/National/article1439435.ece
telling us once again what and what we can’t say and what some say is anti semitic. poor darlings have had it soo bad and now the bhobnailboots are on the other foot.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/israelgaza-conflict-most-british-jews-feel-they-are-blamed-for-actions-of-israeli-government-9623740.html
Thank you for reminding us all that we cannot mention, talk, contemplate to mention, think of ever mentioning the word J-w, for the powerful lobby that protects the almighty supreme beings has thus forbidden us the lowly goyem cattle from ever thinking to mention mention, or any such like in our free societies and our freedom of expression is limited to swearing at the Muslims, Blacks, and Pakistanis, especially Muslims, because they are deserving case of derision and racism.
Where would all be without that Austrian painter? Which group is most obsessed by the untalented little Austrian painter, and his misuse of the Indian good luck sign namely swastika?
Call the FBI, and get caught
Then there is the cased of Dr Sheldon Jacobson, a Jewish dentist, discovered a fire in the form of a large swastika burning on his lawn.
Just to mention a couple, evidently any time going get tough, zionists get painting and writing graffiti.
They are too busy debating shooting pregnant Palestinian mothers; this way they score two with one shot!
13th on Yahoo
4 men shot at Canary wharf on 7/7. People working in offices were told to remain for their own safety.The shooting was witnessed by quite a few,reported on TV,by NZ station that happened to be there.
An area that is extremely well covered by CCTV just happened to have a blackout during this time.Like everywhere involved in that day.
I doubt you can connect 7/7 with Jews, but the CCTV company in charge of security for London Transport was Israeli. So join dots and bingo, Israeli connection.
I am sure it is pure coincidence.
Anon
26 Jul, 2014 – 12:54 pm
“I don’t know but it must have been well paid as be was able to afford cocaine. The cocaine in his system at the time of the shooting might have led to agitated behaviour, arousing suspicions that led to the tragic mistake.”
Can you back that up Anon?
Anon
26 Jul, 2014 – 2:08 pm
Peacewisher
“Hand on heart I have never heard of ‘Farenheit 9/11′. Could you please provide a rough outline of what it is about and then perhaps we can engage in a discussion.”
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Why don’t you google it you stupid Kunt?
That needs a link, Kurtan. Here’s the original report:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10334992
Do you think that they were politcally motivated, Ba’al, or could it be that the shady deals of HSBC have come home to roost?
At least we know who the Met protects at all times, long before us taxpayers come into it.
I have honestly no idea, Nevermind. The 7/7 narrative is disconnected at too many points to draw any conclusions.
“I doubt you can connect 7/7 with Jews ….”
http://antiwar.com/blog/2005/07/18/mossad-chief-confirms-netanyahus-warning-of-london-bombing/
The masses of the “write off the African debt” perambulating in the streets of Edinburgh sporting their wristbands, and others milling around the summit location, all expecting the debt to be written off, including Saint Geldof and Cardinal Bono putting in an appearance, and raising everyone’s expectations, something had to give, or it would have been egg on the face all around.
Ergo the “war of the worlds” incident. Anyone remember the nicea boy with his tie standing in front of the tube station with loads of single shoes (women’s) he had found and offering to hand it back to its owners? Strange as it may seem that was aired as news too, clearly not an agent of any sorts and his swarthy complexion was telling of his tanning sessions in the sun.
Lots or strange things happened around then, if anyone could have recorded the broadcasts, it would be a veritable mine of wtf?
This is the kind of a Jew I would like to drink with in the pub and buy him a pint. Well done the lads for having the balls, guts, and humanity to see through the excuses of the murderous zionist scum.
Fedup
“Warsaw ghetto was not as harsh as Gaza, there are no records of German troops shelling and bombing the place and killing lots of its residents and turning ten percent of them into homeless refugees with in the confines the ghetto.”
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An exceedingly silly post even by your low standards, Fedup.
Although it is true that the nature of the operation – to clear the ghetto of its onhabitants – meant the weapons used were small arms, light artillery, mortars, flamethrowers and grenades.
As for the 10% you mention (presumable you refer to the percentage of Gazans displaced within Gaza?), the result pf the ghetto clearing was that 95% of the inhabitants of the ghetto who were not killed during the operation were shipped off out of the ghetto and gassed.
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Since I’m in the process of dealing with your foolishness, let me ask you two questions:
1/. I’m wondering why you so frequently use the expression “dumb goyim” to debote Gentiles?
2/ Given that your posts reveal that you have anger issues, can you assure us that you were not doing time – perhaps for assault and battery? – without access to the internet during the six months or so you fell silent in this blog? I feel we should know where you’re coming from, so to speak.
Thanks for a speedy reply,
Your friend
Habbabkuk
Mr Scorgie (to Anon)
“Why don’t you google it you stupid Kunt?”
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Well, firstly, Doug, you’re intervening unhelpfully in an exchange between Anon and Peacewisher. If you are really unable to restraint yourself, perhaps YOU could be constructive and help Anon by providing a summary of the plot of Fahrenheit 9/11?
Secondly, it might not have occurred to you that Anon is testing Peacewisher to see if the latter knows what he’s talking about and is making rational analogies as opposed to just posting the first thing that comes into his silly little head?
Sorry to be so blunt, Doug, but this might be the only way to penetrate that thick bone of yours.
Nevermind
Anon brings the following to our attention (and deserves thanks for it)
“Also some free Palestine demonstrators have taken to spraying swastikas on public monuments, wearing football shirts with the name ‘Hitler’ on the back and waving placards saying ‘Hitler was right’. Why are all Jews hated like this for the actions of the Israeli government?”
What is your answer to that question, Herr Ingo Bratwurstmitkartoffeln?