“You have had to live with the missile threat from Gaza for fourteen years now. But now you face a new threat, the tunnels Hamas have built running here from Gaza. How concerned are you about that?”
Incredibly, that really was a question asked by BBC journalist Stephanie Bell of an Israeli man, just broadcast on BBC1. So far over 600 Palestinian civilians have died compared to two Israeli civilians (one of whom was a Bedouin who as a matter of policy are denied air raid shelters). Yet the BBC continues to pump out the narrative that the “problem” is Hamas attacks on Israel.
There are many other more interesting questions Stephanie Bell might have asked. Here are some:
“Do you ever wonder about the lives of the Arab families who lived here before they were removed by force? Whether any of them are now living in Gaza and under those bombs and shells”
“Do you honestly believe that this land is yours because God said so?”
The BBC had also been reporting as credible Israel’s appalling denials that it massacred those families in the UN school, and completely unsubstantiated claim it was stray Hamas fire that did it. The UN have confirmed that Israel has regularly been hitting UN schools and medical facilities.
Lost in translation perhaps. When English isn’t your first language, it can be tricky to understand.
Israel now creating dead zones in Gaza.No go area’s. Like one of those colour changing gob stoppers Gaza loses another ring and the ghetto gets smaller.The noose gets tighter.The IDF gets closer.
Israel would be before the bench in the Hague if not for US vetoes. Thanks Obummer.
http://chris-floyd.com/
“But let us imagine, just for a moment, that their deceitful narrative was true. What if Hamas just woke up one fine, clear peaceful morning and said, “Hey, let’s start firing missiles at Israel, fellas! Won’t that be a hoot?” The fact is that even in that scenario, it would not be an “unprovoked attack,” but a legitimate act of self-defense.
How do we know this? Because one of Israel’s most honored statesmen told us so. As Jonathan Schwarz notes, Abba Eban, one of the founding fathers of Israel, used his renowned eloquence to defend Israel in the UN from charges of aggression for striking first in the 1967 Six-Day War. Rising to address the global body — where he had once served as vice-president of the General Assembly — Eban put forth his case. The surprise attack was justified, he said, because Egypt had blockaded an Israeli port:
“The blockade is by definition an act of war, imposed and enforced through armed violence. Never in history have blockade and peace existed side by side. From May 24 onward, the question who started the war or who fired the first shot became momentously irrelevant. There is no difference in civil law between murdering a man by slow strangulation or killing him by a shot in the bead. From the moment at which the blockade was imposed, active hostilities had commenced and Israel owed Egypt nothing of her Charter rights. If a foreign power sought to close Odessa or Copenhagen or Marseilles or New York harbour by the use of force, what would happen? Would there be any discussion about who had fired the first shot? Would anyone ask whether aggression had begun?”
Uzbek: You ask more questions than Habbakuk or Res Dis.
BTW , where are they ?
Ben
With your military genius I wonder why wasting time on typing words on keyboard. You could offer very valuable advice to ones you so greatly support (and I do not have anything against it) on how to use civilians as shields. I am sure they will find your advise as valuable as some of your Mad friends on this blog when you suggested that Ukrainians were using 258 people as human shield.
I wonder what would have happen to Georgiy Zhukov if he was born in the age of internet. Would he wasted his talent that von so many victories?
DO YOU UNDERSTAND US FOREIGN POLICY?
HERE IS THE EXPLANTION.
We profess not to like terrorists – but – we support the state of Israel whether it bombs civilians, hospitals and schools. Of course we have nothing to say about the occupation of Gaza nor are we particularly perturbed about the stealing of Palestinian lands by the building of settlements. We simply do not support terrorists.
We support the Iraqi government in the fight against ISIS.
We don’t like ISIS, but ISIS is supported by Saudi Arabia whom we do like.
We don’t like Assad in Syria. We support the fight against him, but ISIS is also fighting against him.
We don’t like Iran, but Iran supports the Iraqi government in its fight against ISIS.
So some of our friends support our enemies, some enemies are now our friends, and some of our enemies are fighting against our other enemies, who we want to lose, but we don’t want our enemies who are fighting our enemies to win.
If the people we want to defeat are defeated, they could be replaced by people we like even less, such as in Libya.
And all this was started by us invading a country to drive out terrorists
who were not actually there until we went in to drive them out.
Pretty soon, we shall be running out of oil and have to go solar…
After that we shall have to set up a committee to terrorise countries with the most sunshine.
DoNNyDarKo
“You ask more questions than Habbakuk or Res Dis.”
Possibly. But I am not getting any answers. At least it shows how ridiculous Mad Western lefties are when they cannot answer simply put forward question.
And you need to sort out your identity issue? I am who I am and have never been here under other name. And also I am one man corporation. Oops, sorry. I forgot that this word for Mad western lefties is like red cloth for a crazy bull.
“Military genius…”? You are the first to suggest it. Actually I have average intelligence, but it does give me an advantage in some circumstances.
Whoever said that Hamas has no more allies and is in a weak position? That only Qatar is now supporting them?
Poppycock, Irans Rohani said “Was die Zionisten in Gaza machen, ist ein unmenschlicher Völkermord, daher muss die islamische Welt heute einheitlich ihren Hass und Widerstand gegen Israel erklären.”
freely translated ‘What the zionists are undertaking in Gaza is inhumane genocide, thats why the islamic world today must declare their hate and resistance against Israel’
Rohani said this as a political response to massive public support by millions for Hamas.
go figure
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/iran-millionen-menschen-demonstrieren-gegen-israel-a-982927.html
Clearly the court did not understand that it ought to absolve the collaborators with CIA to run secret concentration camps, and torture jails, for the benefit of keeping the world safe of course!
Pathetic! Polish government is to appeal the courts decision
Well back now to Nazi, nazi, nazi ……
Courtenay; The conspiracy amongst Western powers is a fragile alliance. Omerta used to be the rock-solid wall between the Mafia and justice. They all sense their doom if the castle wall is breeched. They are resolved to keep their status if they hang together, rather than hanging separately.
Ben
You might have average intelligence, you might not have intelligence at all. But the suggestion you made on how military airforce (Ukrainian in your suggestion) should avoid(or had avoided in your case) their jets to be shot by BUK or other types of anti-aircraft missiles definitely deserves a prize. Who knows but (thanks to you) we might yet again start traveling by sea and land and avoid any kind of air travel. Who knows who else would follow your advice.
As I was saying……..
“On Wednesday, the United Nations Human Rights Council voted to authorize a commission of inquiry into alleged war crimes in Gaza. (The United States was the sole “no” vote.) The United Nations’ top human rights official raised what she called the “strong possibility” that Israel and Hamas have committed war crimes with indiscriminate attacks on civilians, and the drumbeat from world leaders and demonstrators pointed to the lopsided number of Palestinian casualties — more than 650, most of them civilians — versus 35 on the Israeli side, 32 of them soldiers.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/24/world/middleeast/as-much-of-the-world-frowns-on-israel-americans-hold-out-support.html?ref=todayspaper
“the islamic world today must declare their hate and resistance against Israel’”
If that bloody speech did not contain word hate I would have wholeheartedly supported it. Why hate? Resistance yes, but why hate? If one knows he is hated, would not one be making sure that those who hate him will never have an opportunity to act against him, or if they have acted will surely loose?
There is huge difference between hate and resistance. Unless of course Iranian president does not know about it, or (what I think is more likely) is using this tragic events to his benefits.
Courtenay Barnett, voted the best comment of this thread.
Israel refused to help pre-attack: UN agency
Mr Sackur probably had not been briefed and up to speed when he was asking his ever so “pertinent questions”!!!!! Accurate and unbiased “news” from a publicly funded organisation.
Ben
They surely need your military mind. Casualties disparity on both sides confirm this.
“We are currently amidst “the three weeks” – the annual Jewish period of quasi-mourning that leads to the fast day of Tisha B’Av. This is the season that bids us to look deeply into the soul of our community and examine the ways that our sinat chinam – baseless hatred – has led to our communal downfall.
Driven by the spirit of this season, we cannot help but speak out in response to the horrific loss of life currently taking place in Gaza, at the hands of the Israeli military. We deplore the Israeli government’s military crackdown in the West Bank that led to its lethal, military onslaught on the people of Gaza. We mourn the deaths of hundreds of innocent people, including children.
We condemn Hamas’ rockets attacks on Israel and are deeply grieved by the anxiety, injury and death they have caused. But we cannot view this as a war between two equal sides. Israel has unlimited hi-tech weaponry; it dominates Gazan airspace, its borders, its utilities and economy.
Moreover, it was Israel who willfully launched this mission of death on the Palestinian people. Israel hides behind the pretext of avenging the still unsolved kidnapping and killing of three Jewish boys. Rather than seeking recourse through civil, legal means, Israel’s leaders have called for vengeance, with terrible consequences.
We can not stand idly by as the Jewish State acts with such wanton disregard, with such sinat chinam, for the humanity of the mothers, fathers, sons, daughters, brothers, sisters, children and elders of Gaza.
As Jews, we abhor the abuse of human rights that are standard practice of our fellow Jews in the Israeli government and Israeli military. This is not the path of justice”
http://rabbibrant.com/2014/07/25/israel-in-gaza-a-statement-by-the-jvp-rabbinical-council/
“Accurate and unbiased “news” from a publicly funded organisation.”
And peace in the world. And end for social injustices. And stop killing plants, animals and fishes. And also pink glasses in addition to it, otherwise we will not see all these changes.
Now lets wait and see.
Uzbek; Maybe you should just Habbabreak me. Many have……
Ben
Not sure what does it mean (hope nothing sexual). But no, thank you.
Ben
“As Jews, we abhor the abuse of human rights that are standard practice of our fellow Jews in the Israeli government and Israeli military.”
Romans used to say “Divide et Impera”. 2000 years passed by still very actual today, is not it?
A brief history of Palestine.
http://www.juancole.com/2014/07/where-is-palestine.html
Baal
“ANY dissent by an establishment figure is welcome. It’s rare enough So: interesting.”
I see mild dissent on the fringes of the establishment as just another mechanism to sustain the establishment. Imagine not a whisper of dissent from anywhere within the establishment, then even the likes of Craig might have to wonder if the system needed changing.
I’ve been searching for video evidence of a.) rockets actually landing in Israel, and b.) Iron Dome missiles actually impacting incoming ‘Hamas rockets.’ Still nothing. I know 2-3 explosions have gone off in Israel since this ‘war’ began, including the one at a gas station in Ashdod, but still zero footage of Hamas rockets – either airborne or making impact.
Strange for a country with so many public cameras, to say nothing of smartphones, etc…
Craig, I see you’re point, thank you for replying!
Ben
“where-is-Palestine”
I wonder if Chechens, Tatars, Crimea Tatars, Uighurs, Tibetans, Curds and many many others can ask the same question about their mother(father)land?
Niall
“Strange for a country with so many public cameras, to say nothing of smartphones, etc…”
Seems odd indeed. But then again, Ben has recently astonished me that Ukrainian military used 258 people as human shield to protect their jet but has no footage of this. Shall I still trust him?
Afriend; Maybe you could inform the unaware/uninformed. 🙂
Ben
I really am confused. Trust this but NOT that. Do NOT trust this but trust that. No clear evidence in either cases (no footage as Niall stated). Whom to trust, whom NOT to trust? What is going on? My head is spinning around. I shall put on pink glasses, switch on TV, put RT on and clams myself down. Putin’s brainwashers save me.
Washington Post is declaring thier journaist has been arrested. He has been detained for questioning, NOT arrested. See how they spin?
http://www.irna.ir/en/News/2732325/Politic/Official_to_comment_on_arrest_of_ˈWashington_Postˈ_correspondents_after_investigations
The ME needs someone like Saledin, or Kahlil Gibran.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/07/24/with-friends-like-these-isis-is-doomed.html