David Aaronovitch is the very first name on the “Let’s stay together” list unveiled today. That’s Aaronovitch, Murdoch employee, unrepentant propagandist for the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan and the bombing of Libya – and look how those turned out – and arch media Zionist. We know why he wants to keep the Union together. For exactly the same reason that Baroness Warsi resigned – because Westminster foreign policy is under unshakeable Zionist control
It is a diverse list. But there is one thing all of these people have in common.
They are all much wealthier people than the rest of us.
Almost all of them of them have their main home in South East England. No wonder they want to keep the UK scam going, and Scotland’s resources funnelling down there.
A large number of them get their high salaried living from the (ahem) “neutral” BBC.
There are 210 names on the list. How many can you find whose main residence is not in South East England, and where is it?
Exactly John, the usa insisted on the Clyde Precisely because it was so close to Plentiful Amenities…Get them to fk outa my River
Mary –
Three cheers!
Glagow City Council to fly Palestinian flag
Posted by John Hilley on August 7, 2014, 2:01 pm
An admirable gesture.
How typical of the BBC to headline the story as “a row”.
Cheerz Mary
Very Proud of my Cities stand in support of the Wracked Palestinians…GLASGOW, Standing against the Evil Genocidal Monsters…Fucking Child Killers
What a bunch of wankers! Craig, er, where do you live? Aren’t you rich?
Habbakuk,
Dangerous in the sense,for example,of any fool who spouts shite from the safety of a desk as millions die on the basis of his howling vacuous shill cowardice.
Rather quaint your defense of Aaronovitch(bet your hasbara crew call him Ronno in the canteen eh?)
Your a transparent idiot sockpuppet fool Habbabkuk that would say or write anything as long as your line manager patted your tummy.
p.s. go and learn the true meaning and context of a cadence.
Tit.
one of the True NOBEL peace PRIZE winners…….fuck the NOBEL PPC
Dr. Mads Gilbert from Tromsø, Norway (Twin City with Gaza City), was working at Al Shifa Hospital in Gaza during the last Israeli onslaugt on Gaza. When he returned from Gaza to his home-town Tromsø on July 31 2014, he went straight from the airport to give this spontaneous speech at a large solidarity demonstration for Gaza held at the same time. The regional newspaper “Nordlys” (“Northern Light”) streamed the demonstration and featured Dr. Mads’ speech on their web-site. They have donated the video. It was transcribed and subtitled in English through a solidarity effort by Norwegian film and video professionals. The video can be shared and used for non-commercial purposes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOk_KaaXc9E
Jives (on the dangerous nature of Aaronowicz):
“Dangerous in the sense,for example,of any fool who spouts shite from the safety of a desk as millions die on the basis of his howling vacuous shill cowardice.”
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Doesn’t the above apply to you as well, Jives?
I mean, you spout shite regularly from the safety of wherever you sit at 3am in the morning as millions die on the basis of your troll ravings – not.
So that makes you “dangerous”, Jives.
Mary, obviously well-reestablished, crows thus:
“Three cheers!
Glagow City Council to fly Palestinian flag”
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Gesture “politics” at its silliest.
Anyone remember David Blunkett’s Sheffield declaring itself a “nuclear-free zone”?
LOL
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PSC event – Gaza: let down by the BBC and the mainstream media?
Posted by The Medialens Editors on August 8, 2014, 6:21 am
I don’t know why PSC feel they have to put a question mark at the end of this event’s title.
Anyway, here’s the message below from Amena Saleem.
DC
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Hi
PSC has organised a media event on Friday 28th August, titled, Gaza: let down by the BBC and the mainstream media?
Speakers include Greg Philo, director of the Glasgow Media Group (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Glasgow-Media-Group/120381074685941), Ken Loach, the film director, and Owen Jones, the commentator and columnist.
The event starts at 7pm at Amnesty International, 17-25 New Inn Yard, London, EC2A 3EA.
Registration is essential.
This is the event on facebook: https://www.facebook.com/events/266331840232524/?fref=ts
If you’re not on facebook, these are the details:
In this panel discussion, the film director Ken Loach, columnist and commentator Owen Jones, and Greg Philo, director of the Glasgow Media Group http://www.facebook.com/pages/Glasgow-Media-Group/120381074685941, will join others to debate where the mainstream media got it right, and where it got it wrong, over Israel’s onslaught on Gaza.
There will be a particular focus on the BBC, examining whether the publicly funded broadcaster’s coverage accurately and impartially reflected the facts on the ground.
And, in the age of social media and internet news, we’ll be asking: how relevant is the BBC now in providing information about the Israeli occupation of Palestinian land?
Palestine Solidarity Campaign UK http://www.facebook.com/palestinesolidarityuk will also be providing advice on how to continually challenge the BBC and other media over its coverage of the Israeli occupation.
IMPORTANT:
Seating is limited. We’ll be providing information next week on how to book your place. Attendance will be by registration only.
I realise this is (yet another) London-based event, but it would be great to see you there if you’re able to make it.
Mary, obviously well-reestablished, crows thus:
“Three cheers!
Glagow City Council to fly Palestinian flag”
Proud n Loud
Mr Nasty aka Jim Naughtie on Radio 4 Today just now has been raising questions on the DEC appeal.
He asks of their reporter in Gaza, Wyre Davies, whether money given by the public will actually get to the people and to help them.
Then he speaks to a Palestinian from Islam Aid who describes conditions there as terrible and much worse than after Cast Lead. The conversation continued with Naughtie casting aspersions on Hamas even asking if they ‘interfere’ in the distribution of aid ie implying that is likely to be misappropriated.
The DEC appeal will follow at the end of Radio 4 Today at 9am.
Cheers Brian. I totally agree about Mads Gilbert. A worthy recipient but it will never happen.
The establishment are terrified of Scottish independance because the seat on the UN Security Council would under epode.
Sorry I meant jepody
I am well known as an open-source, free-love, cooperative-housing, red panther. Not an old soldier dragon at all. (Afrend)
Extrapolating from this, it thinks I’m you? What’s it smoking?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_East_England
” The establishment are terrified of Scottish independance because the seat on the UN Security Council would under epode. (be under jeopardy?) ”
How so?
the reduction of britains overhaul economic power with the removal of Scotland,countries like India ,Brazil,Germany will have stronger arguments to challenge the uks so called power which it justifies it’s standing at the security council. Since ww2 Britain has been in decline economically and military it depends on the USA for advance aircraft, intelligence,and nuclear weapons and the means to use them.
I do not gallivant around saying you must be that old Tory diplomat whose name I do not know. Craigs ex colleague. The one who now teaches people how to talk. You know who I mean. He commented here not so long ago. His blog is really dead.
Oh, him…thanks.
🙂
…you mean the guy who writes for Frank Gaffney’s ‘Secure Freedom Radio’, don’t you?
And please don’t be nasty about his blog. He’s in the top 30 ‘Libertarian’ blogs:
http://www.totalpolitics.com/print/27233/top-30-libertarian-blogs.thtml
So, a Teaparty (UK) neocon, then. No wonder he’s grumpy.
August 7, 2014
Israel: Worlds apart
By John Reed
Hardened attitudes towards Gaza and a long-term shift to the political right reflect the failure of past peace efforts
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/d09aa22e-1e10-11e4-ab52-00144feabdc0.html#ixzz39mIj4rel
‘Gideon Levy, a columnist with the left-leaning newspaper Ha’aretz whose strongly pro-Palestinian views are now regarded as extreme left in Israel, recently began moving around Tel Aviv with a bodyguard after being threatened and abused in public. In an opinion piece, he had accused Israeli air force pilots of pushing buttons and joysticks, and killing civilians during Operation Protective Edge, committing, he said, “the lowest deeds from the loftiest heights”. Hundreds of people cancelled their subscriptions to Ha’aretz and he received death threats.
“We went to this war after years of incitement, brainwashing, demonising of the Palestinians, of rightwing governments and legislation in parliament delegitimising the left, non-governmental organisations and human rights organisations,” he says. “I don’t like to use this word, but we see more and more fascist phenomena in Israel. It’s not yet fascism, but you see the signs.”’
A couple of years ago I drove through the small Sussex town where the 97 year old Vera Lynn’s carers keep her under strict Zionist control. As if.
Jonathan Cook highlights an outrageous article in Haaretz
(Via Facebook)
Just in case you made the mistake of thinking the Israeli army knows exactly what it’s doing, here is quite a revealing article by Amos Harel, a reporter who is little more than stenographer for the Israeli army. His account is plausible because it does the army no favours. It makes Israel’s top military echelon out to be an arrogant and deluded bunch, one also more than ready to kill civilians when its soldiers got out of their depth.
Here is how he characterises the top brass’ initial assessment of the “war”:
“The IDF’s initial assumption was that a series of gradually escalating strikes on Hamas assets would reduce its desire to fight and spur it to quickly accept a cease-fire. That assumption didn’t exactly work out.
“In part, this could be due to the differences between Gaza and Lebanon, which is the principle theater for which the IDF has prepared. Both Hezbollah and the Lebanese government have bigger assets to lose: Beirut’s Dahiyeh neighborhood, where Hezbollah is headquartered, and major civilian infrastructure like the Beirut airport, highways and power stations. Hamas’s assets in Gaza are much smaller, and unlike in Lebanon, there’s no chance of driving a wedge between it and the government, because Hamas is the government.”
Yes, a small oversight on the part of the military planners. Anyone, I suppose, could have made a similar mistake – if they were driven by racist preconceptions about generic “Arabs”.
When things started to slip out of the army’s control, as in Shujaiyeh, the IDF simply flattened everything in sight:
“When Golani Brigade fighters suffered multiple losses during a fierce battle with Hamas in Gaza City’s Shujaiyeh neighborhood on July 20, the air force hastened to the rescue. Within 50 minutes, planes had struck 126 targets, most with one-ton bombs.”
Using Gaza lessons to prepare for next Hezbollah war
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.609331
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http://members5.boardhost.com/medialens/msg/1407487866.html full article
” The establishment are terrified of Scottish independance because the seat on the UN Security Council would under epode. (be under jeopardy?) ”
How so?
The reason the UK is on the Security Council is that it has nukes. The nukes are in Scotland. That might have something to do with it? Though I imagine the rUK will relocate the nukes to, let us say, Belfast…maybe even Canary Wharf…should the evil nationalist insurgents defy the will of US Congress and take over.
Mary –
u brought up the actions planned against the BBC for what was in reality their support for the zionist position on the attack on Gaza. u can include ABC in Australia in that regard. both corporations devote thousands of hours a year pretending to care about racism/sexism/etc., but it’s rhetoric, just as with the politicians.
Chomsky’s interview is the best to date on the Gaza situation, and it is interesting to note – even in the context of Craig’s thread – who has been long on rhetoric & short on action:
somehow my comment went thru before i posted the link for the Chomsky interview, which is extensive. watch it all:
VIDEO: Democracy Now: “A Hideous Atrocity”: Noam Chomsky on Israel’s Assault on Gaza & U.S. Support for the Occupation
Juan Gonzalez: …What do you make of the continued refusal of one administration after another here in the United States, which officially is opposed to the settlement expansion, to refuse to call Israel to the table on this attempt to create its own reality on the ground?
NOAM CHOMSKY: Well, your phrase “officially opposed” is quite correct. But we can look at—you know, you have to distinguish the rhetoric of a government from its actions, and the rhetoric of political leaders from their actions. That should be obvious. So we can see how committed the U.S. is to this policy, easily. For example, in February 2011, the U.N. Security Council considered a resolution which called for—which called on Israel to terminate its expansion of settlements. Notice that the expansion of settlements is not really the issue. It’s the settlements. The settlements, the infrastructure development, all of this is in gross violation of international law. That’s been determined by the Security Council, the International Court of Justice. Practically every country in the world, outside of Israel, recognizes this. But this was a resolution calling for an end to expansion of settlements—official U.S. policy. What happened? Obama vetoed the resolution. That tells you something…
Furthermore, the official statement to Israel about the settlement expansion is accompanied by what in diplomatic language is called a wink—a quiet indication that we don’t really mean it. So, for example, Obama’s latest condemnation of the recent, as he puts it, violence on all sides was accompanied by sending more military aid to Israel. Well, they can understand that. And that’s been true all along. In fact, when Obama came into office, he made the usual statements against settlement expansion. And his administration was—spokespersons were asked in press conferences whether Obama would do anything about it, the way the first George Bush did something—mild sanctions—to block settlement expansions. And the answer was, “No, this is just symbolic.” …
There are plenty of things the U.S. can do to implement what Obama talked about. And the question is—and, in fact, when the U.S. gives orders, Israel obeys. That’s happened over and over again. That’s completely obvious why, given the power relationships. So things can be done. They were done by Bush two, by Clinton, by Reagan, and the U.S. could do them again. Then we’ll know whether those words were anything other than the usual pleasant rhetoric…
The reason was that a free election took place in Palestine, and it came out the wrong way. Well, Israel and the United States, of course, love democracy, but only if it comes out the way they want. So, the U.S. and Israel instantly imposed harsh sanctions. Israeli attacks, which really never ended, escalated. Europe, to its shame, went along. Then Israel and the United States immediately began planning for a military coup to overthrow the government. When Hamas pre-empted that coup, there was fury in both countries. The sanctions and military attacks increased. And then we’re on to what we discussed before: periodic episodes of “mowing the lawn.”…
NOAM CHOMSKY: Well, for Israel, with U.S. backing, the current situation is a kind of a win-win situation. If Hamas agrees to extend the ceasefire, Israel can continue with its regular policies, which I described before: taking over what they want in the West Bank, separating it from Gaza, keeping the diet and so on. If Hamas doesn’t accept the ceasefire, Netanyahu can make another speech like the one you—the cynical speech you quoted earlier. The only thing that can break this is if the U.S. changes its policies, as has happened in other cases. I mentioned two: South Africa, Timor. There’s others. And that’s decisive. If there’s going to be a change, it will crucially depend on a change in U.S. policy here. For 40 years, the United States has been almost unilaterally backing Israeli rejectionism, refusal to entertain the overwhelming international consensus on a two-state settlement…
http://www.democracynow.org/2014/8/7/a_hideous_atrocity_noam_chomsky_on
‘These attempts to identify unionism with Zionism and the terrible events in Gaza are really quite risible.’
For once I agree with you Kempe; two of the signatories on the list are George Galloway and David Gilmour, neither of whom could remotely be described as ‘zionists’.
just to clarify “mow the lawn” from the Chomsky interview i posted:
Democracy Now: Democracy Now: Gaza Ceasefire: After 1,800+ Dead, What Led Israel to Stop the Assault – and What Comes Next?
Interview with Norman Finkelstein
NORMAN FINKELSTEIN: And Israel, every few years, has to—or less than few years, has to mow the lawn in Gaza. And so, they wanted to make sure the next time they mow the lawn—
AMY GOODMAN: Why do you say “mow the lawn”?
NORMAN FINKELSTEIN: Well, that’s the Israeli expression. You go in, and you kill a thousand people, destroy everything in sight, and Israel calls that “mowing the lawn.” So every few years they have to go into Gaza and mow the lawn. They want to make sure next time they mow the lawn—because if you read the Israeli commentators, who are really a sick bunch of people, all of them are talking now about the next war. Every single commentator is talking about the next war. This one isn’t even over yet. But they want to make sure the next time they go in, there won’t be tunnels. So that was the real aim of the mission…
http://www.democracynow.org/2014/8/5/ceasefire_after_gaza_assault_leaves_1800
also, for the record, i’ve wanted to post here the only tally in the MSM, pretending to keep track of the amount of weapons used. NYT shockingly writes of under 4,000 TARGETS struck by Israel, & 2,909 ROCKETS launched by Hamas:
NYT: The Toll in Gaza and Israel, Day by Day
By KAREN YOURISH and JOSH KELLER
Latest totals updated Aug. 6
3,834 targets in Gaza struck by Israel
1,880 Palestinian deaths
2,909 rockets launched at Israel from Gaza
67 Israeli deaths
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/07/15/world/middleeast/toll-israel-gaza-conflict.html?action=click&contentCollection=Middle%20East&module=RelatedCoverage®ion=Marginalia&pgtype=article&_r=0
remember it was reported on Israel Radio on 9 July, that Israel dropped 400 tonnes of bombs & missiles on Gaza in the first two days of the attack.
in Rania Masri’s harrowing “Mr. Obama, What is Barbaric?” speech at the “Texas for Gaza” protest, she spoke of 500,000 bombs & missiles dropped on Gaza, & she was probably close to the mark. a TARGET in Gaza could be a whole City that was almost entirely demolished by hundreds of bombs & missiles.
NYT/BBC – both considered so influential – shame on them.
Dugard makes some good points.
Aljazeera: John Dugard: Debunking Israel’s self-defense argument
http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2014/7/gaza-israel-internationalpoliticsunicc.html
Democracy Now: Can Israel Claim Self-Defense Against the Territory It
Occupies? Int’l Jurist John Dugard Says No
(John Dugard, former U.N. special rapporteur on human rights in the
Palestinian territories and emeritus professor of international law at the
University of Leiden in the Netherlands)
http://www.democracynow.org/2014/8/6/can_israel_claim_self_defense_against?autostart=true&get_clicky_key=suggested_next_story
btw Craig, as a fourth generation irish/anglo/aussie, i’m hoping for a Yes vote, but i’m not feeling confident it will happen. too many powerful forces working against it, i’m afraid.
how Scotland ended up with the Commonwealth Games – & the Queen – so close to the vote, i don’t know, but those powerful “No” forces certainly made the most out of that unfortunate timing.
Republicofscotland
7 Aug, 2014 – 3:54 pm
The US Congress, tables resolution to oppose Scottish independence, Obama says no.
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“Now, therefore, be it resolved that the House of Representatives believes that a united, secure, and prosperous United Kingdom is important for U.S. national security priorities in Europe and around the world,”
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So the US national security is it? Are they going to send warships
to the Firth of Forth?
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“…and asserts the importance of the Special Relationship to maintaining transatlantic security ties.”
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Blackmail. The “Special Relationship” and security ties could be cancelled
What will MI5 do? Rig the ballot?
” The reason the UK is on the Security Council is that it has nukes. ”
The UK is a permanent member of the Security Council because it was one of the “victor nations” of WW2. At the time of it’s formation in 1946 only one of the five permanent members was a nuclear power (America). The UK was a member before it acquired it’s own nuclear weapons and there’s no reason it shouldn’t remain on the council should it disarm.
In response to condemnation of Israeli genocide in Gaza, Netanyahu has urged the visiting US lawmakers o protect the Zionist regime from being dragged to the International Criminal Court (ICC) on charges of war crimes. The AIPAC-sponsored delegation was lead by Jewish congressman Steve Israel (D-NY).
“We didn’t cooperate with Goldstone Report and, in the end, it disappeared from the world,” Benjamin Netanyahu, prime minister of the Zionist entity.
http://rehmat1.com/2014/08/08/netanyahu-help-israel-avoid-war-crimes-charges/